Which heavyweight put the most power behind 1 punch?

[foxdog1923]

Get over yourself mate, Just a tip, you're coming across as a real bore, even to people agreeing with you. We get it, you have a degree is sports science, you don't need to keep banging on about it. I've have numerous conversations previously with nutritionists, sports psychologists, and conditioning experts, during my time and not one of them came across as much of a pompous arse as you, they didn't set themselves up as people who knew everything, but people who were willing to discuss, unlike yourself.

P.S - I just reviewed my post in response to me not agreeing with you and I can NOW see why its upset you. Apologies. I was tired and I didn't want to talk more about it but I typed it without realising how rude it sounded.

[Chepppaaa]

I think that uppercut that Foreman hit Frazier with, which lifted Smokin' Joe off his feet is the hardest single punch I have ever seen.

It's all the more amazing that Joe got up from it!

punches like this or the lewis rahman II ko punch are rare. top power.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Get over yourself mate, Just a tip, you're coming across as a real bore, even to people agreeing with you. We get it, you have a degree is sports science, you don't need to keep banging on about it. I've have numerous conversations previously with nutritionists, sports psychologists, and conditioning experts, during my time and not one of them came across as much of a pompous arse as you, they didn't set themselves up as people who knew everything, but people who were willing to discuss, unlike yourself.

Mate why are you angry? Lol. Calm down, I just said I agreed with you as it CLEARLY states but YOU somehow read it wrong. Some people go to work everyday come home and don't want to talk about work any further, that's all I'm saying. You just miscomprehend when I said I absolutely agree with you and then you miscomprehend my last post as Im a know it all. It's all good lol. Also I don't care if others find my posts boring, the post you're talking about was intended for a particular person.

P.S - I just reviewed my post in response to me not agreeing with you and I can NOW see why its upset you. Apologies. I was tired and I didn't want to talk more about it but I typed it without realising how rude it sounded.

Fair do's. We all have off days mate.

[man]

George Foreman. In that Ali fight my god he was trying to kill him. There was one punch in particular that crosses my mind. It missed but holy poo it looked like a missile launch coming from his shoulder lol

i still do not understand how ali could
sustain that onslaught to the body. i
just can't.

[Controversial]

In his last 7 fight Foreman scored 1 KO and 1 knockdown... Tyson knocked out Alex Steward in seconds.. A year later Foreman hit him with everything and couldn't stop him. Foreman hit 211 pound Jimmy Young real good and couldn't knock him down. The feather hitting Young knocked Foreman down.

To be fair Foreman was very old then, he was almost 49 when he had his last pro fight, that was a factor.

[Kalan]

Are people seriously riding aj's nuts that hard they think he's the #1 puncher in all of history? Foreman knocking out Michael Moore and frazier top anything aj has done so far ... Any slob can weigh over 240 lbs. It doesn't matter unless it's lean muscle and you have good cardio.

Micheal Moore was a Light Heavyweight for YEARS and won a World Title at 175.. David Tua took him out in 20 seconds.. The Moorer fight was the ONLY KO or knockdown in Foreman's LAST 7 FIGHTS!!! and he was fighting TERRIBLE CHALLENGERS ... Joe Frazier was a teeny little fugger for a Heavyweight and super easy to hit.. Foreman used Joe for a basketball he bounced him so much.

Dillian Whyte and Charles Martin are 245 pound heavyweights with tremendous chins.. AJ knocked them out for the 10-count.. He did it with casual ease.. AJ doesn't have to load up like Foreman to send you into dreamland ... And to your point that a slob can weigh over 240... That remark fits Foreman to a T.. George was a super fat and sloppy 250. HIs best fight was Frazier at 217.. AJ is ROCK SOLID at 245.

[Kalan]

George Foreman ... It missed but holy poo it looked like a missile launch coming from his shoulder lol

i still do not understand how ali could sustain that onslaught to the body. i just can't.

EASY... The launched punch missed because Foreman loaded it...and Foreman couldn't hit the hardest... He DIDN'T knock a lot of real big guys out... Cooney had been knocked out previously by Light Heavyweight Michael Spinks and hadn't fought for 3 years because of drug addiction... Foreman couldn't KO Big Foot Martin... or Ali... or Axel Schulz... or Crawford Grimsley... or super weak chinned Tommy Morrison... or weak chinned Lou Saverese... or Alex Stewart who Tyson blew out in a flash... or Holyfield, a 208-pounder who he hit dead on the jaw... or Jimmy Young who wasn't a good absorber and had been knocked out before... or Levi Forte who previously lost more fights than he won (21) including getting knocked out EIGHT (8) TIMES before. George couldn't take him out.

NOBODY escaped a KO who dared get into a ring with Anthony Joshua... Sheer devastation

[gilgamesh]

George Foreman ... It missed but holy poo it looked like a missile launch coming from his shoulder lol

i still do not understand how ali could sustain that onslaught to the body. i just can't.

EASY... The launched punch missed because Foreman loaded it...and Foreman couldn't hit the hardest... He DIDN'T knock a lot of real big guys out... Cooney had been knocked out previously by Light Heavyweight Michael Spinks and hadn't fought for 3 years because of drug addiction... Foreman couldn't KO Big Foot Martin... or Ali... or Axel Schulz... or Crawford Grimsley... or super weak chinned Tommy Morrison... or weak chinned Lou Saverese... or Alex Stewart who Tyson blew out in a flash... or Holyfield, a 208-pounder who he hit dead on the jaw... or Jimmy Young who wasn't a good absorber and had been knocked out before... or Levi Forte who previously lost more fights than he won (21) including getting knocked out EIGHT (8) TIMES before. George couldn't take him out.

NOBODY escaped a KO who dared get into a ring with Anthony Joshua... Sheer devastation

You realize you're talking about a Foreman who was in his 40's on most of those guys he failed to knockout right?

When he initially retired in 1977 42 of his 45 wins had been by knockout. I guarantee you Prime Foreman wrecks most of those dudes that went the distance with him in his 2nd career inside 5 rounds.

[BitPlayer]

George Foreman ... It missed but holy poo it looked like a missile launch coming from his shoulder lol

i still do not understand how ali could sustain that onslaught to the body. i just can't.

EASY... The launched punch missed because Foreman loaded it...and Foreman couldn't hit the hardest... He DIDN'T knock a lot of real big guys out... Cooney had been knocked out previously by Light Heavyweight Michael Spinks and hadn't fought for 3 years because of drug addiction... Foreman couldn't KO Big Foot Martin... or Ali... or Axel Schulz... or Crawford Grimsley... or super weak chinned Tommy Morrison... or weak chinned Lou Saverese... or Alex Stewart who Tyson blew out in a flash... or Holyfield, a 208-pounder who he hit dead on the jaw... or Jimmy Young who wasn't a good absorber and had been knocked out before... or Levi Forte who previously lost more fights than he won (21) including getting knocked out EIGHT (8) TIMES before. George couldn't take him out.

NOBODY escaped a KO who dared get into a ring with Anthony Joshua... Sheer devastation

Because part time club fighter Gary Cornish is of a similar level to ATG Holyfield.

[Kalan]

Because part time club fighter Gary Cornish is of a similar level to ATG Holyfield.

Did I try to sell 6'7" X 260 pound and 21-0 Gary Cornish was ANYTHING LIKE 6'2" X 208 Cruiserweight Evander Holyfield??? ... Obviously Cornish is very crude and Joshua's easiest opponent.. I find it interesting that Cornish had gradually worked his way up in competition over the last 5 years like he might be serious about learning the craft - but in his next fight after getting crushed by Joshua he went back to fighting bums.. I don't think his chin was softened up so much he couldn't take a bigger risk.. You don't go from overmatching yourself to undermatching yourself.

Forget about the worst guys Joshua fought such as Cornish... Dillian Whyte and Charles Martin would have given Holyfield and Foreman a rough time but couldn't compete with AJ. Those fights were easy because AJ can already box and punch well. Especially punch. He's the best puncher Boxing has produced so far. If you don't believe it ask Wladimir. WK was shocked when Joshua had 10 rounds of action. Now he has 34 rounds.

[BitPlayer]

Did I try to sell 6'7" X 260 pound and 21-0 Gary Cornish was ANYTHING LIKE 6'2" X 208 Cruiserweight Evander Holyfield??? ... Obviously Cornish is very crude and Joshua's easiest opponent.. I find it interesting that Cornish had gradually worked his way up in competition over the last 5 years like he might be serious about learning the craft - but in his next fight after getting crushed by Joshua he went back to fighting bums.. I don't think his chin was softened up so much he couldn't take a bigger risk.. You don't go from overmatching yourself to undermatching yourself.

Forget about the worst guys Joshua fought such as Cornish... Dillian Whyte and Charles Martin would have given Holyfield and Foreman a rough time but couldn't compete with AJ. Those fights were easy because AJ can already box and punch well. Especially punch. He's the best puncher Boxing has produced so far. If you don't believe it ask Wladimir. WK was shocked when Joshua had 10 rounds of action. Now he has 34 rounds.

Thes guys have fought no one, domestic level, that's it. Whyte was tough and I think has some talent, but he showed up unfit and was very sloppy, not to mention with shoulder issues. A no hoper against prime Holyfeild or Foreman. His best win was against a shot cruiserwight journeyman brawler. Next your going to tell me Ali is on par with big bad John

[BitPlayer]

Audley Harrison knocked out the 280 pound 7'1" never stopped before Julius Long. Yes size is a big advantage, but just being bigger doesn't make you better. There are plenty of boxers as big or bigger than Fury Wilder and Wlad, they're just not as good.

[man]

George Foreman ... It missed but holy poo it looked like a missile launch coming from his shoulder lol

i still do not understand how ali could sustain that onslaught to the body. i just can't.

EASY... The launched punch missed because Foreman loaded it...and Foreman couldn't hit the hardest... He DIDN'T knock a lot of real big guys out... Cooney had been knocked out previously by Light Heavyweight Michael Spinks and hadn't fought for 3 years because of drug addiction... Foreman couldn't KO Big Foot Martin... or Ali... or Axel Schulz... or Crawford Grimsley... or super weak chinned Tommy Morrison... or weak chinned Lou Saverese... or Alex Stewart who Tyson blew out in a flash... or Holyfield, a 208-pounder who he hit dead on the jaw... or Jimmy Young who wasn't a good absorber and had been knocked out before... or Levi Forte who previously lost more fights than he won (21) including getting knocked out EIGHT (8) TIMES before. George couldn't take him out.

NOBODY escaped a KO who dared get into a ring with Anthony Joshua... Sheer devastation

you might be slightly exaggerating?

[Counter-puncher]

The trolling is average at best

[jamesmcdonnell]

Are people seriously riding aj's nuts that hard they think he's the #1 puncher in all of history? Foreman knocking out Michael Moore and frazier top anything aj has done so far ... Any slob can weigh over 240 lbs. It doesn't matter unless it's lean muscle and you have good cardio.

Micheal Moore was a Light Heavyweight for YEARS and won a World Title at 175.. David Tua took him out in 20 seconds.. The Moorer fight was the ONLY KO or knockdown in Foreman's LAST 7 FIGHTS!!! and he was fighting TERRIBLE CHALLENGERS ... Joe Frazier was a teeny little fugger for a Heavyweight and super easy to hit.. Foreman used Joe for a basketball he bounced him so much.

Dillian Whyte and Charles Martin are 245 pound heavyweights with tremendous chins.. AJ knocked them out for the 10-count.. He did it with casual ease.. AJ doesn't have to load up like Foreman to send you into dreamland ... And to your point that a slob can weigh over 240... That remark fits Foreman to a T.. George was a super fat and sloppy 250. HIs best fight was Frazier at 217.. AJ is ROCK SOLID at 245.

Oh dear.

[franio]

Klitschko brothers.

[Badhusker]

Kind of a waste of bandwidth on CS but Tyson and Wilder put most behind their punch. GEORGE F was the heaviest puncher.

[foxdog1923]

Got sick of all (2) Anthony Joshua KOs are so powerful posters up here so I thought I'd find out from a top boxer about who punches harder, basically from someone who knows. I voted Foreman, ahem had to chuck that in there.
http://youtu.be/u8uESHHCgGw

[badkatt]

1 punch = earnie shavers

[Grilling Machine]

And how did George Foreman have such incredible power despite not being very fast and often weighing under 220 during his peak?

Lower diffusion of force than most. Thomas is right that it can't be covered in simple terms, but adding diffusion's vital: speed (and torque) + mass - diffusion. Like bamboo, our near-locked elbows are incredibly strong longitudinally, so upon landing a fast punch, the bulk of its force seeks the direction of least resistance. If you have strong shoulders and quads and a solid core, this is likely away from you against a similar-sized opponent's mush (unless you have fragile wrists). Now imagine Big George punching a wall, and 99.9% of his force coming straight back at him. Technique, as well, because almost everyone's shoulder's gonna give if they're square.

Haye seemingly generates huge torque, but not so much of that power transfers in comparison. The other David, Price, is such a solid dude that more of his does. I voted Shavers. As noted, the fact that he sometimes carried on tumbling forwards after landing showed some serious momentum.

[foxdog1923]

I can go on with the physiological but primarily it narrows down to neutrons and muscles.

If you're going down to atomic levels of mass, muscles are naturally hierarchical; there's no need to separately assign them.

Oh please I'm just briefing someone. Neurons before muscle contraction.

[Grilling Machine]

Ah, neurons. Fair enough. When you said neutrons I guessed you were going along the lines of muscle density.

[foxdog1923]

Ah, neurons. Fair enough. When you said neutrons I guessed you were going along the lines of muscle density.

LOL oh crap, I didn't realise the mis-spelling. Sorry.

[Grilling Machine]

'Salright. Ultimately, I suppose it all comes down to electromagnetism, with neural ability dictating how many of our resources we can employ (and how well). Or in other words, Earnie was a big lad who could tie his own boots. (Great fighter!)

[Kalan]

Got sick of all (2) Anthony Joshua KOs are so powerful posters up here so I thought I'd find out from a top boxer about who punches harder, basically from someone who knows. I voted Foreman, ahem had to chuck that in there

Hoiyfield repeated SEVERAL TIMES that Foreman was really SLOW!!!! ... Now...the formula for power is MASS X SPEED X FORCE... Foreman was missing one component of this equation as Evander Holyfield pointed out repeatedly in the video you posted... Joshua has MASS 245 pounds of it... Joshua has SPEED, throws the fastest and sharpest punches ever for a heavyweight... Joshua has FORCE, AJ does massively effective strength training which drives his punches through the mark with tremendous power.