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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 08:55
by Enlightened-One
keithmoonhangover wrote:No you haven't. Which record did Canelo-Trout break? Show me evidence of it 'breaking' a record and I will apologize.
In regards Canelo's fight gainst Trout, here's what I actually claimed:
"Trout (biggest for 15 years in US)"
And the evidence of this claim can be found in the
Barclays own website.
You've made me repeat myself, because you weren't paying attention.
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 08:56
by dberry
Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:
Nope! That wasn't my claim.
I obtained my list of European stadiums from
Wikipedia.
What was the stadium called when Darlington FC played its home fixtures between 2003-2012?
Due to fact that stadium and arena are synonyms, I was simply referring to Canelo’s event records in general. You’re arguing meaningless semantics.
My claim about the Trout fight was true. I openly admitted that I "guessed" the Kirkland fight, based on what GBP had told the media.
Due to fact that stadium and arena are synonyms, as I was simply referring to Canelo’s event records in general, my claim about the Mayweather fight was correct.
Which record did the Canelo-Trout break?
Stadium and arena are not synonyms. The MGM Grand Garden Arena is not a stadium and has never been called one. Much like the Manchester Arena, Wembley Arena etc etc etc.
You're repeating yourself. I've addressed your comments already.
Why won't you reply to me, fugm.....er, rovey? You used to reply to me all the time, remember? Always with "reported". You could at least acknowledge me, I mean, we go way back! How's your imaginary girlfriend, 'Sara'? You two made it past first base yet?
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 08:59
by dberry
Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:No you haven't. Which record did Canelo-Trout break? Show me evidence of it 'breaking' a record and I will apologize.
In regards Canelo's fight gainst Trout, here's what I actually claimed:
"Trout (biggest for 15 years in US)"
And the evidence of this claim can be found in the
Barclays own website.
You've made me repeat myself, because you weren't paying attention.
Correct, rovey, that fight broke attendance records for all Trout-Canelo fights for the past fifteen years, like a gold star, little man? Sara would be so impressed!
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 09:04
by keithmoonhangover
Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:No you haven't. Which record did Canelo-Trout break? Show me evidence of it 'breaking' a record and I will apologize.
In regards Canelo's fight gainst Trout, here's what I actually claimed:
"Trout (biggest for 15 years in US)"
And the evidence of this claim can be found in the
Barclays own website.
You've made me repeat myself, because you weren't paying attention.
I am paying attention. More than you it would seem. The biggest in 15 years is not breaking a record. You said breaking records. Either you lied or you're wrong. Which is it to be?
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 09:10
by dberry
keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:No you haven't. Which record did Canelo-Trout break? Show me evidence of it 'breaking' a record and I will apologize.
In regards Canelo's fight gainst Trout, here's what I actually claimed:
"Trout (biggest for 15 years in US)"
And the evidence of this claim can be found in the
Barclays own website.
You've made me repeat myself, because you weren't paying attention.
I am paying attention. More than you it would seem. The biggest in 15 years is not breaking a record. You said breaking records. Either you lied or you're wrong. Which is it to be?
Well, he is a renowned liar, so it's clear that he has risked his identity because he can't help himself to be the jerk that he is. Any how, he is well and truly REPORTED!!!!!

Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 09:12
by keithmoonhangover
dberry wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:
In regards Canelo's fight gainst Trout, here's what I actually claimed:
"Trout (biggest for 15 years in US)"
And the evidence of this claim can be found in the
Barclays own website.
You've made me repeat myself, because you weren't paying attention.
I am paying attention. More than you it would seem. The biggest in 15 years is not breaking a record. You said breaking records. Either you lied or you're wrong. Which is it to be?
Well, he is a renowned liar, so it's clear that he has risked his identity because he can't help himself to be the jerk that he is. Any how, he is well and truly REPORTED!!!!!


Some people just can't stay away.
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 09:16
by Enlightened-One
keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:No you haven't. Which record did Canelo-Trout break? Show me evidence of it 'breaking' a record and I will apologize.
In regards Canelo's fight gainst Trout, here's what I actually claimed:
"Trout (biggest for 15 years in US)"
And the evidence of this claim can be found in the
Barclays own website.
You've made me repeat myself, because you weren't paying attention.
I am paying attention. More than you it would seem. The biggest in 15 years is not breaking a record. You said breaking records. Either you lied or you're wrong. Which is it to be?
I have already successfully answered this question (which you have already conceded), I was accurate about my Trout claims (which you have already conceded) and I'm getting bored of repeating myself:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Which records? You said 'records', so please list more than one.
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 09:22
by dberry
Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:
In regards Canelo's fight gainst Trout, here's what I actually claimed:
"Trout (biggest for 15 years in US)"
And the evidence of this claim can be found in the
Barclays own website.
You've made me repeat myself, because you weren't paying attention.
I am paying attention. More than you it would seem. The biggest in 15 years is not breaking a record. You said breaking records. Either you lied or you're wrong. Which is it to be?
I have already successfully answered this question (which you have already conceded), I was accurate about my Trout claims (which you have already conceded) and I'm getting bored of repeating myself:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Which records? You said 'records', so please list more than one.
Why won't you even acknowledge me, Fugmo, I mean we go back some time, years! Yet you won't even pay me the time of day, says more about you than me, really, didn't you say you were Christian? Not very Christian of you, is it, now?
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 09:26
by keithmoonhangover
Enlightened-One wrote:I have already successfully answered this question (which you have already conceded), I was accurate about my Trout claims (which you have already conceded) and I'm getting bored of repeating myself:
Canelo-Trout didn't break any attendance records. This is a fact. To break a record, you have to do better than the previous best. Canelo-Trout didn't do that. Do you not understand that? Or are you not man enough to admit when you're wrong?
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 09:31
by Enlightened-One
keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:I have already successfully answered this question (which you have already conceded), I was accurate about my Trout claims (which you have already conceded) and I'm getting bored of repeating myself:
Canelo-Trout didn't break any attendance records. This is a fact. To break a record, you have to do better than the previous best. Canelo-Trout didn't do that. Do you not understand that? Or are you not man enough to admit when you're wrong?
Why admit I'm wrong when the Mayweather & Smith bouts broke event attendance records? I backed-up my original claim and I also kindly answered your question, which was:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Which records? You said 'records', so please list more than one.
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 09:33
by keithmoonhangover
Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:I have already successfully answered this question (which you have already conceded), I was accurate about my Trout claims (which you have already conceded) and I'm getting bored of repeating myself:
Canelo-Trout didn't break any attendance records. This is a fact. To break a record, you have to do better than the previous best. Canelo-Trout didn't do that. Do you not understand that? Or are you not man enough to admit when you're wrong?
Why admit I'm wrong when the Mayweather & Smith bouts broke event attendance records? I backup my original claim and I also kindly answered your question, which was:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Which records? You said 'records', so please list more than one.
You just said Canelo-Trout broke records. Are you now saying it didn't? Come on Fugmo.
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 09:46
by Enlightened-One
keithmoonhangover wrote:You just said Canelo-Trout broke records. Are you now saying it didn't? Come on Fugmo.
You asked the following question… and I answered it.
keithmoonhangover wrote:Which records? You said 'records', so please list more than one.
You keep ignoring this fact!
I proved that Canelo’s fights against Mayweather & Smith were record-defining events, which you won’t challenge… by choosing to remain silent on these points. My claim about the Trout fight was technically correct, which also remains unchallenged.
When you realised your original argument was on unstable ground, you changed tactic by labouring over meaningless trivial semantics, such as the dictionary definitions... because it seems you're intentionally trying to use a small error or a typo as evidence to suggest that everything else I say is false and meaningless...
You wrongly argued that the words “stadium” and “arena” were not possibly interchangeable… you claimed that they weren’t synonymous… and you also named a few English football stadiums to justify your belief.
So I supplied the dictionary definition of the word “arena” and proved that the word “stadium” was in fact its synonym… and I also listed 46 European football “stadiums” that are named “arenas.”
You claim that Darlington FC hasn’t played in an arena before, which was really strange considering you also stated that you live in that town, but then I proved that they played their home fixtures (between 2003-2012) in a football “stadium” that was named as an “arena”. Another response of mine that you were silent on.
I mean, if you don’t know very much about simple facts about your own hometown football club, why should I engage in a debate about boxing with you?
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 10:10
by keithmoonhangover
Enlightened-One wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:You just said Canelo-Trout broke records. Are you now saying it didn't? Come on Fugmo.
You asked the following question… and I answered it.
keithmoonhangover wrote:Which records? You said 'records', so please list more than one.
You keep ignoring this fact!
I proved that Canelo’s fights against Mayweather & Smith were record-defining events, which you won’t challenge… by choosing to remain silent on these points. My claim about the Trout fight was technically correct, which also remains unchallenged.
When you realised your original argument was on unstable ground, you changed tactic by labouring over meaningless trivial semantics, such as the dictionary definitions... because it seems you're intentionally trying to use a small error or a typo as evidence that everything else I say is false and meaningless...
You wrongly argued that the words “stadium” and “arena” were not possibly interchangeable… you claimed that they weren’t synonymous… and you also named a few English football stadiums to justify your belief.
So I supplied the dictionary definition of the word “arena” and proved that the word “stadium” was in fact its synonym… and I also listed 46 European football “stadiums” that are named “arenas.”
You claim that Darlington FC hasn’t played in an arena before, which was really strange considering you also stated that you live in that town, but then I proved that they played their home fixtures (between 2003-2012) in a football “stadium” that was named as an “arena”.
I mean, if you don’t know very much about simple facts about your own hometown football club, why should I engage in a debate about boxing with you?
I haven't forgotten the other parts of the conversation, I will address them. I just want you to answer nice and cleary..... which record did Canelo-Trout break?
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 12:39
by Cyclops
Well it's definitely Rover. He used to turn half decent threads into pages and pages of unreadable pointless arguments over stupid details.
Even I'm confused now, but as far as I'm concerned in the UK at least there is a distinction made between arena and stadium, hence wembley stadium (where they held Froch Groves 2) being distinct from the neighbouring wembley arena (where they held the Groves Froch 2 weigh in).
Arena's are smaller, hold less people and carry less prestige, hence the term "stadium fight" reserved for the biggest possible fights. The 02 is an arena. Wembley stadium is a stadium.