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Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 04:10
by smiling assassin
Got a lot of sympathy for Tyson. He's obviously got a lot of issues. I think his family have been trying to help him get through this by themselves, and no that its a lot more complicated than that, and feel there is no other way than to pull the fight. I hope I'm wrong but I can't see Tyson fighting again.

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 04:18
by mickey1975
John Fury has been extremely low key for a long time now. And he's not a low key man.

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 04:42
by coneye
Obviously been told , to keep it shut, he's not doing the Fury label any good whatsoever , They have enough trouble keeping Tyson from putting his foot in it ... Tell you what though if Hughie grows into being a champion , i think he will make a very good spokeman for boxing and the familly .

2 brothers , 2 kids and the apple never falls far from the tree.

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 05:41
by Oiky
Hope Tyson sort his problems out soon mental health issues is a very bad do. Good luck to him.

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 05:56
by PredatorHayds
Basically they had set amounts promised to them in the event of a Fury win in the re-match clause.

Team Fury insisted the fight be made in the UK which was agreed by K2.

The TV money from Germany is way lower than fight 1 and they lose a few million without Sky Box office.
The only way to increase revenue was to hike ticket prices up but the fans didn't lap them up.

Promotionally the show was in the hole for a few million but due to the contract they can't pull out on financial grounds.

Tyson has to get a injury but must be proved by official doctor to stop getting stripped. With no physical injury they will go down the mental route (easy to prove with tysons track record).

He will make a miraculous recovery and the fight will be made in early 2017 in Germany with a excuse about how the Manchester arena was unavailable.

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 05:58
by BitPlayer
I think they need to make an agreement with Wlad so he can have fights while Fury is out.

Make Fury champion in recess or something.

Assuming this is all legit.

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 06:12
by mickey1975
coneye wrote:Obviously been told , to keep it shut, he's not doing the Fury label any good whatsoever , They have enough trouble keeping Tyson from putting his foot in it ... Tell you what though if Hughie grows into being a champion , i think he will make a very good spokeman for boxing and the familly .

2 brothers , 2 kids and the apple never falls far from the tree.
One brother a Cat A prisoner for many years and had one bout, his son is a former junior gold medalist and undefeated heavyweight contender with no convictions...
The other brother was a journeyman heavyweight and long time prisoner, the son The Undisputed Heavyweight Champion Of The World with no jail time...
What are you on about?

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 06:35
by Andrew
PredatorHayds wrote:Basically they had set amounts promised to them in the event of a Fury win in the re-match clause.

Team Fury insisted the fight be made in the UK which was agreed by K2.

The TV money from Germany is way lower than fight 1 and they lose a few million without Sky Box office.
The only way to increase revenue was to hike ticket prices up but the fans didn't lap them up.

Promotionally the show was in the hole for a few million but due to the contract they can't pull out on financial grounds.

Tyson has to get a injury but must be proved by official doctor to stop getting stripped. With no physical injury they will go down the mental route (easy to prove with tysons track record).

He will make a miraculous recovery and the fight will be made in early 2017 in Germany with a excuse about how the Manchester arena was unavailable.
This

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 07:15
by pimp
I've heard from a very good source the reason fury has pulled out is over this drug testing he's apparently been caught out with, don't be surprised if we don't see him again I've been told

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 07:26
by Terminator666
Time to strip Fury now- he's shown himself up especially after the way he mocked Haye when he pulled out.
Let fighters who want to fight for it fight and maybe Fury gets a shot at the champ if and when he pulls himself together

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 07:27
by lillywhite14
mickey1975 wrote:John Fury has been extremely low key for a long time now. And he's not a low key man.
He's probably the biggest reason why Tyson has a few issues. When you're old man is a bit of a head the ball who is constantly putting pressure on you, it might have a negative effect!

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 07:32
by Horse
Terminator666 wrote:Time to strip Fury now- he's shown himself up especially after the way he mocked Haye when he pulled out.
Let fighters who want to fight for it fight and maybe Fury gets a shot at the champ if and when he pulls himself together
Fight for what? Paper titles?

Even if Fury is stripped of his baubles, he'll still be the true champion.

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 07:34
by Terminator666
Horse wrote:
Terminator666 wrote:Time to strip Fury now- he's shown himself up especially after the way he mocked Haye when he pulled out.
Let fighters who want to fight for it fight and maybe Fury gets a shot at the champ if and when he pulls himself together
Fight for what? Paper titles?

Even if Fury is stripped of his baubles, he'll still be the true champion.
Fine- but in the meantime the show must go on- Fury or no Fury

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 07:55
by wesshaw1985
Any chance fury shows up Tuesday and the fight is still on?

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 08:06
by Ricky_
Horse wrote:
Terminator666 wrote:Time to strip Fury now- he's shown himself up especially after the way he mocked Haye when he pulled out.
Let fighters who want to fight for it fight and maybe Fury gets a shot at the champ if and when he pulls himself together
Fight for what? Paper titles?

Even if Fury is stripped of his baubles, he'll still be the true champion.
true champions don't vacate belts out of cowardice. Fury did the same vs Price.


True Champion :lol:

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 08:07
by Horse
Ricky_ wrote:true champions don't vacate belts out of cowardice. Fury did the same vs Price.


True Champion :lol:
:roll:

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 08:43
by rd350lc
Horse wrote:
Terminator666 wrote:Time to strip Fury now- he's shown himself up especially after the way he mocked Haye when he pulled out.
Let fighters who want to fight for it fight and maybe Fury gets a shot at the champ if and when he pulls himself together
Fight for what? Paper titles?

Even if Fury is stripped of his baubles, he'll still be the true champion.
Just as I thought we were seeing some posts of reasonable sense from the Horse, you get this drivel .

How can you really tell the quality of the other top heavyweight fighters and what they would have done in the ring with Fury ?

I think I know .

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 08:45
by Horse
rd350lc wrote:Just as I thought we were seeing some posts of reasonable sense from the Horse, you get this drivel .

How can you really tell the quality of the other top heavyweight fighters and what they would have done in the ring with Fury ?

I think I know .
:maybe:

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 09:34
by Rexob
Naandrew wrote:
PredatorHayds wrote:Basically they had set amounts promised to them in the event of a Fury win in the re-match clause.

Team Fury insisted the fight be made in the UK which was agreed by K2.

The TV money from Germany is way lower than fight 1 and they lose a few million without Sky Box office.
The only way to increase revenue was to hike ticket prices up but the fans didn't lap them up.

Promotionally the show was in the hole for a few million but due to the contract they can't pull out on financial grounds.

Tyson has to get a injury but must be proved by official doctor to stop getting stripped. With no physical injury they will go down the mental route (easy to prove with tysons track record).

He will make a miraculous recovery and the fight will be made in early 2017 in Germany with a excuse about how the Manchester arena was unavailable.
This

Exactly this.

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 11:25
by BitPlayer

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 11:44
by Counter-puncher
pimp wrote:I've heard from a very good source the reason fury has pulled out is over this drug testing he's apparently been caught out with, don't be surprised if we don't see him again I've been told
*taps nose*

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 12:54
by Autobarn
ginty wrote:I bet david haye is grinning his head off after all the stuff fury said about him pulling out of fights I can see Tyson losing his belts and wlad fighting Ortiz for the full WBA belt which would be a good fight .it's a shame as fury is becoming the forgotten fighter the average guy already think AJ would beat him and I can see Fury being frozen out if he fights again
Yeah definitely, what goes around comes around. People feel slighted, get very vocal then actually do it themselves.

Another bitter irony was Diego Corrales. Complaining about Freitas spitting the mouthpiece then doing the same to survive KO at the hands of Castillo.

Then getting upset at Castillo's failure to make weight for the rematch, branding him a "cheat" and then failing to make lightweight vs Casamayor (rubber match) and the coming in 5 lbs over the welterweight limit for Clottey.


Not disappointed in Fury. Always felt he'd be done with boxing after Wlad 1 (though hadn't expected the win). He can't get it together and is an unprofessional liability. Would never buy a ticket to his fights under any circumstances. Can't even show up for his champion's payday, useless.

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 13:36
by coneye
mickey1975 wrote:
coneye wrote:Obviously been told , to keep it shut, he's not doing the Fury label any good whatsoever , They have enough trouble keeping Tyson from putting his foot in it ... Tell you what though if Hughie grows into being a champion , i think he will make a very good spokeman for boxing and the familly .

2 brothers , 2 kids and the apple never falls far from the tree.
One brother a Cat A prisoner for many years and had one bout, his son is a former junior gold medalist and undefeated heavyweight contender with no convictions...
The other brother was a journeyman heavyweight and long time prisoner, the son The Undisputed Heavyweight Champion Of The World with no jail time...
What are you on about?
Without bringing criminal records into it .

One brother , trainer who speaks quite well , comes across has calm and collective ,, one son is a former junior gold medalist , and undeafeted heavyweight contender ,, also speaks quite well and comes across has being quite likeable . Definetly somone who would get sponsors if he won a world title .

One brother , without bringing crinimal records into it ,, a big mouth bully who loves to get his face on tv or u tube and go into ridiculous rants about being fighting men and from gypsy stock , men who fear no one and trys to DEMAND the world loves his son ,, One son who is current world champ , but prone to going off on ridiculous rants alienates his fans , does'nt seem to give a shit about fans spending money to see him, and losing money after he pulls out ,, and scares sponsors away , with his crazy rants , a man who leaves people wondering wether or not him and his father actually have mental issues ..

Thats what i'm on about like i said the apple does'nt fall from the tree

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 13:42
by BitPlayer
^You're really being unfair on Tyson there. For all his numerous flaws his heart is clearly in the right place, he often treats his fans well, and has done stuff for good causes.

Re: Disappointed in Tyson Fury

Posted: 24 Sep 2016, 13:59
by coneye
BitPlayer wrote:^You're really being unfair on Tyson there. For all his numerous flaws his heart is clearly in the right place, he often treats his fans well, and has done stuff for good causes.
Not really ,, I actually like Tyson Fury i like his humor and agree with a lot of what he says , said it before i reckon he would make a great neighbor ,, BUT his father is a nutcase with issues , and Tyson does seem to have issues has well , and he does'nt seem to give a rats arse about people who have bought tickets , paid deposits on hotels , arranged time of work to come and see him