List fighters with a better resume than Floyd Mayweather

[gilgamesh]

The list is the better resume no p4p all time.


Floyd surely the very top of this list.I definitely won a lot of great boxer and champion.

These guys have better resumes

Some have too many defeats and have no real better resumes.

I disagree. When guys fight dozens of fights they're bound to have a lot of losses on their record. Floyd would've lost a lot too competing in the eras these guys did. All the fighters on that list have as many or more great wins than Floyd does.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Mosley was some of the lowest odds for any Floyd fight. That was absolutely the fight to make with the exception of pac and Manny didn't want it then. Questioning that matchmaking has no basis. Odd that the pac lovers aren't giving him even more shit for fighting Shane next

[Ricky_]

He had stomped the bejesus out of Margarito

Is that supposed to be testament that Mosley had anything left as an elite fighter!? Margarito couldn't box for poo, and he had just been busted with plaster of Paris in his wraps before his ring-walk.

He was a heavy favorite to beat Mosley heading into that fight.

Because he looked completely shot vs Mayorga, meanwhile, Margarito looked great with concrete hands.

[gilgamesh]

Is that supposed to be testament that Mosley had anything left as an elite fighter!? Margarito couldn't box for poo, and he had just been busted with plaster of Paris in his wraps before his ring-walk.

He was a heavy favorite to beat Mosley heading into that fight.

Because he looked completely shot vs Mayorga, meanwhile, Margarito looked great with concrete hands.

He didn't look shot against Mayorga but he definitely struggled more than most would've expected him to I'm sure. He still had enough in him to come closer to knocking out Floyd than anybody else ever did.

He got his ass handed to him the rest of the fight after that though, and against Pac he looked like a guy who just showed up for a paycheck.

[Keko]

These guys have better resumes

Some have too many defeats and have no real better resumes.

I disagree. When guys fight dozens of fights they're bound to have a lot of losses on their record. Floyd would've lost a lot too competing in the eras these guys did. All the fighters on that list have as many or more great wins than Floyd does.

Is not only a matter of record, but also names that have won and some are really losing too much matches.Just some of these has a better resume.

[hoagylt]

I'd say Manny does.

Easily.

[Counter-puncher]

Re Mosely-Mayorga I think mayorgas herkyjerky awkwardness made Shane look worse than he was, not being the greatest in-ring thinker/adapter hurt Shane there.

OT, whilst we're talking Mosley - Margarito, him beating Margarito half to death was as satisfying a beating as i have ever seen, I'll always love Shane for that shit

[Tomasino]

Re Mosely-Mayorga I think mayorgas herkyjerky awkwardness made Shane look worse than he was, not being the greatest in-ring thinker/adapter hurt Shane there.

OT, whilst we're talking Mosley - Margarito, him beating Margarito half to death was as satisfying a beating as i have ever seen, I'll always love Shane for that poo

He looked good doing it. I was happy as Larry watching that.

[Counter-puncher]

Re Mosely-Mayorga I think mayorgas herkyjerky awkwardness made Shane look worse than he was, not being the greatest in-ring thinker/adapter hurt Shane there.

OT, whilst we're talking Mosley - Margarito, him beating Margarito half to death was as satisfying a beating as i have ever seen, I'll always love Shane for that poo

He looked good doing it. I was happy as Larry watching that.

Especially that Margaritos chin was good enough he just stayed upright getting pounded by those clubbing right hands.

[Lackeos]

He had stomped the bejesus out of Margarito

Is that supposed to be testament that Mosley had anything left as an elite fighter!? Margarito couldn't box for poo, and he had just been busted with plaster of Paris in his wraps before his ring-walk.

He was a heavy favorite to beat Mosley heading into that fight.

The odds makers didn't know Margarito was going to get caught with plastered wraps right before the fight and be forced to fight without them.

[Ketchel]

Re Mosely-Mayorga I think mayorgas herkyjerky awkwardness made Shane look worse than he was, not being the greatest in-ring thinker/adapter hurt Shane there.

OT, whilst we're talking Mosley - Margarito, him beating Margarito half to death was as satisfying a beating as i have ever seen, I'll always love Shane for that poo

He looked good doing it. I was happy as Larry watching that.

Just curious. Why were you happy to watch a drug cheat beat a loaded gloves cheat? Lesser of the two evils? The whole loaded gloves things in this fight seemed to exonerate Shane of his own shady transgressions. Both were cheating cnuts.

[caldo2025]

There's no way Mosley was the #1 contender for that fight.

He was. Doesn't mean he wasn't past prime as was the case with DLH. Both had been out for a year and both were clearly on the downside. It's forgotten Shane was struggling with Mayorga before he had the last round KO.

He had stomped the bejesus out of Margarito prior to fighting Floyd. People always sh*t on Floyd for fighting Mosley and De La Hoya past their primes, but go back and watch his fights from 2003. He calls out Mosley and De La Hoya after those fights every time. Meaning at the time he would've been willing to jump up 3 weight classes to fight either of them. He always wanted to fight those guys, he just wasn't always the kinda star that was worth their time. By the time the Mosley fight came around the tables had turned and Mosley wanted to fight him.

De La Hoya while I was never a fan has to be admired because he fought Floyd for no other reason except Floyd was P4P #1 and he wanted to beat him. I wish there were more fighters like that these days.

De La Hoya never could quite pull that off. He tried multiple times to fight the guy that was at or near the top of the P4P list, but he never could win...he tried more than anybody else ever does though.

I just remember that it was Floyd and Manny at the 1 and 2 spot in every division for so long and SSM was 39 years old when he fought Floyd so I can't see how he could be ranked that high in any capacity back then. But this is boxing and sometimes they fudge this stuff to sell a fight i guess.

I think that you need to give Oscar a little more credit. He had a fantastic career and had many big wins (Pernell. JCC, Vargas). But he didn't belong above 147 because he didn't have the power to travel that high. He was 31-0 and dominant at the lighter weight and defended his titles for many years. But you are right, Oscar wanted to fight everyone. We need more boxers like that nowadays, that's for sure.

[Tomasino]

Re Mosely-Mayorga I think mayorgas herkyjerky awkwardness made Shane look worse than he was, not being the greatest in-ring thinker/adapter hurt Shane there.

OT, whilst we're talking Mosley - Margarito, him beating Margarito half to death was as satisfying a beating as i have ever seen, I'll always love Shane for that poo

He looked good doing it. I was happy as Larry watching that.

Just curious. Why were you happy to watch a drug cheat beat a loaded gloves cheat? Lesser of the two evils? The whole loaded gloves things in this fight seemed to exonerate Shane of his own shady transgressions. Both were cheating cnuts.

I was just impressed that Shane managed to smash him the way he did. I'm of the opinion that almost all top level athletes are on PEDs of some kind. I'm aware that the evidence against Mosley is clearer than most.

[caldo2025]

Re Mosely-Mayorga I think mayorgas herkyjerky awkwardness made Shane look worse than he was, not being the greatest in-ring thinker/adapter hurt Shane there.

OT, whilst we're talking Mosley - Margarito, him beating Margarito half to death was as satisfying a beating as i have ever seen, I'll always love Shane for that poo

He looked good doing it. I was happy as Larry watching that.

Just curious. Why were you happy to watch a drug cheat beat a loaded gloves cheat? Lesser of the two evils? The whole loaded gloves things in this fight seemed to exonerate Shane of his own shady transgressions. Both were cheating cnuts.

Such a great point here. SSM seems to get a free pass with Boxing Fans when his two biggest victories came against Oscar when he was on PEDS for both and admitted so to Congress. I preferred the beating that Manny gave Margarito anyway. To this day, you can still see the damage Manny did to that eye. Not proud of the fact that I enjoy that a man took a beating like that but what Margarito did to Cotto was unforgivable and forgive the pun, an eye for an eye is sweet justice in my opinion.

[Counter-puncher]

rails against drug cheats like Mosley

*acts like manny was cleaner than a 2 year old's piss*

[IKSRTFO]

rails against drug cheats like Mosley

*acts like manny was cleaner than a 2 year old's piss*

Or that Floyd isn't at best, questionable

[gilgamesh]

He was. Doesn't mean he wasn't past prime as was the case with DLH. Both had been out for a year and both were clearly on the downside. It's forgotten Shane was struggling with Mayorga before he had the last round KO.

He had stomped the bejesus out of Margarito prior to fighting Floyd. People always sh*t on Floyd for fighting Mosley and De La Hoya past their primes, but go back and watch his fights from 2003. He calls out Mosley and De La Hoya after those fights every time. Meaning at the time he would've been willing to jump up 3 weight classes to fight either of them. He always wanted to fight those guys, he just wasn't always the kinda star that was worth their time. By the time the Mosley fight came around the tables had turned and Mosley wanted to fight him.

De La Hoya while I was never a fan has to be admired because he fought Floyd for no other reason except Floyd was P4P #1 and he wanted to beat him. I wish there were more fighters like that these days.

De La Hoya never could quite pull that off. He tried multiple times to fight the guy that was at or near the top of the P4P list, but he never could win...he tried more than anybody else ever does though.

I just remember that it was Floyd and Manny at the 1 and 2 spot in every division for so long and SSM was 39 years old when he fought Floyd so I can't see how he could be ranked that high in any capacity back then. But this is boxing and sometimes they fudge this stuff to sell a fight i guess.

I think that you need to give Oscar a little more credit. He had a fantastic career and had many big wins (Pernell. JCC, Vargas). But he didn't belong above 147 because he didn't have the power to travel that high. He was 31-0 and dominant at the lighter weight and defended his titles for many years. But you are right, Oscar wanted to fight everyone. We need more boxers like that nowadays, that's for sure.

I give Oscar plenty of credit. He was certainly a great fighter. If anything he gets too much credit for the most part from fans, but no question he's one of the gutsiest fighters I've seen in terms of the willingness he showed in challenging himself. The Vargas fight is fantastic. The Ike Quartey and First Shane Mosley fights are badass too. I thought Whitaker edged him by a few rounds personally, but it was competitive.

[Ricky_]

rails against drug cheats like Mosley

*acts like manny was cleaner than a 2 year old's piss*

Mayweather was the one who got busted.

[boxing_rocks]

He had stomped the bejesus out of Margarito prior to fighting Floyd. People always sh*t on Floyd for fighting Mosley and De La Hoya past their primes, but go back and watch his fights from 2003. He calls out Mosley and De La Hoya after those fights every time. Meaning at the time he would've been willing to jump up 3 weight classes to fight either of them.

We all know that calling out in a ring and actually fighting are two very different things though.

[gilgamesh]

He had stomped the bejesus out of Margarito prior to fighting Floyd. People always sh*t on Floyd for fighting Mosley and De La Hoya past their primes, but go back and watch his fights from 2003. He calls out Mosley and De La Hoya after those fights every time. Meaning at the time he would've been willing to jump up 3 weight classes to fight either of them.

We all know that calling out in a ring and actually fighting are two very different things though.

They are, but at that time Oscar and Mosley wouldn't even have given him the time of day, and it's not because they were afraid of him or he was afraid of Oscar and Shane, he just hadn't raised his profile at the time high enough for either of them to be interested. Their respective weight classes were pretty loaded at the time so they couldn't have given less of a sh*t about fighting Floyd at that particular time. It's just the way it was. I promise you Floyd wanted them though. Floyd knew he'd have to have a win over a major name like Oscar or Shane to become a major name himself. That's why he was always chasing those guys.

The guys these days seem to think you can become a big name just by being unbeaten...doesn't work like that. Usually you only become a big name fighter in Boxing with a high profile victory to your credit.

[caldo2025]

He had stomped the bejesus out of Margarito prior to fighting Floyd. People always sh*t on Floyd for fighting Mosley and De La Hoya past their primes, but go back and watch his fights from 2003. He calls out Mosley and De La Hoya after those fights every time. Meaning at the time he would've been willing to jump up 3 weight classes to fight either of them.

We all know that calling out in a ring and actually fighting are two very different things though.

Exactly what i was thinking when i read that. Canelo even brought GGG into the ring after his fight with Khan and still ducked him. It's all posturing.

[Lackeos]

They are, but at that time Oscar and Mosley wouldn't even have given him the time of day, and it's not because they were afraid of him or he was afraid of Oscar and Shane, he just hadn't raised his profile at the time high enough for either of them to be interested. Their respective weight classes were pretty loaded at the time so they couldn't have given less of a sh*t about fighting Floyd at that particular time. It's just the way it was. I promise you Floyd wanted them though. Floyd knew he'd have to have a win over a major name like Oscar or Shane to become a major name himself. That's why he was always chasing those guys.

The guys these days seem to think you can become a big name just by being unbeaten...doesn't work like that. Usually you only become a big name fighter in Boxing with a high profile victory to your credit.

Yeah, exactly. You can't just beat a bunch of mediocre contenders like David Lemieux and suddenly become the next Mayweather. If you want to even become the 400k ppv buy draw that Mayweather was in 2006, you have to beat Daniel Jacobs caliber opponents. ... I mean, I Arturo Gatti. And sometimes you have to actually make them an attractive enough purse offer, something marginally generous, like 45 or 50%, so that you can get those good scalps on the resume and crossover from selling 100k buys to selling 400k buys. Then you might really catch the attention of Alvarez. .. I mean, Oscar. Literally spending a mere extra $500k so that you can quadruple your income in all future fights and possibly even secure a $25+ million payday. Sorry, getting off topic.

[cfang]

For me floyd and manny are easily the two greatest boxers of the last 20 years. Both resumes are outstanding. floyd ofc has zero losses and to be fair to him, he hardly ever looked like losing either. When considering a 20 years career over multiple classes, even when considering some things were in his favour and he picked well, it's still some achievement. Manny is different in the way he fights - all guns blazing, coming forward - he's bound to have more losses that way and more milage. There's more great names on his record and his resume looks like he took more chances with his opponents. Manny is one of my favourite fighters of all time and i totally cannot stand floyd. However, both are in the lower reaches of an all time p4p top ten for me.

Neither quite reach the robinson, charles, langford or greb level but after that they are both as good and have as good a resume as anyone,

[Barra]

Manny Pacquiao

[jamamb]

floyd obviously has a great resume, its funny how desperate some ppl get to nitpick it.