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Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 00:19
by Cutman Scabbers
Wales wrote:So many questions going into this fight

Can Joshua take a punch?
Can he do the distance?

I don't know, but he's eating well!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... schko.html

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 10:24
by Kalan
Ricky_ wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:Also Joshua is very good on the counter and on the inside.
Is he? His only real test was Whyte and he didn't look good doing either.
He did well doing both well. He finished Whyte with a right uppercut from the inside as he was attacking hard. He nailed Whyte with a lot of hard counter-shots that softened him up for the first 6 rounds. Particularly the right hand counter. The Villain was pretty much ready to dispatch at that point.

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 11:32
by Kalan
Cutman Scabbers wrote:
Wales wrote:So many questions going into this fight

Can Joshua take a punch?
Can he do the distance?

I don't know, but he's eating well!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... schko.html
You have to eat that much if you work out that hard... You're burning 5000 calories a day so you have to eat more...

People always ask if Joshua can go 12 rounds... If you're skilled and conditioned professional boxer, 12 rounds isn't tedious.. 15 rounds isn't tedious.. That's not the problem.. Getting hit a lot is tedious.. If he can box 8 sparring partners 15 rounds in the gym he can do it when the need arises.. Because he's hitting with 8 to 10 ounces of hand wraps and 32 ounces of gloves in the gym.. Sparring gloves weigh you down more than your gloves will ever burden you during a fight, and you're using a lot more tape and wrappings than the fight.. And you're always facing a fresh opponent and doing more than sparring. You're working harder. You've already worked out for an hour before you start sparring.

The idea isn't how many rounds you can go. It's how well you can box. How much you get hit versus the number of times your opponent is getting hit. How big, tall, long, strong, fast, skilled, and conditioned you are in comparison to your opponent. The pressure and the hits break you down no matter what your conditioning and strength are.

It's a very tough job to break down a very big, tall, very skilled Heavyweight and stop him in only 12 rounds.. Your opponent had a million dollar training camp with X number of sparring partners to prevent you from breaking him down.. So the much easier path to victory would be to just outbox Wlad for 12 and just cruise to victory like Tyson Fury did.. He's an old man.. You can easily outbox him because your younger and faster. Having that 100% KO ratio is a burden in a way.. You're not going to keep that KO record forever anyway -- because nobody ever does.

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 05:10
by Cutman Scabbers
Kalan wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:
Wales wrote:So many questions going into this fight

Can Joshua take a punch?
Can he do the distance?

I don't know, but he's eating well!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... schko.html
You have to eat that much if you work out that hard... You're burning 5000 calories a day so you have to eat more...

People always ask if Joshua can go 12 rounds... If you're skilled and conditioned professional boxer, 12 rounds isn't tedious.. 15 rounds isn't tedious.. That's not the problem.. Getting hit a lot is tedious.. If he can box 8 sparring partners 15 rounds in the gym he can do it when the need arises.. Because he's hitting with 8 to 10 ounces of hand wraps and 32 ounces of gloves in the gym.. Sparring gloves weigh you down more than your gloves will ever burden you during a fight, and you're using a lot more tape and wrappings than the fight.. And you're always facing a fresh opponent and doing more than sparring. You're working harder. You've already worked out for an hour before you start sparring.

The idea isn't how many rounds you can go. It's how well you can box. How much you get hit versus the number of times your opponent is getting hit. How big, tall, long, strong, fast, skilled, and conditioned you are in comparison to your opponent. The pressure and the hits break you down no matter what your conditioning and strength are.

It's a very tough job to break down a very big, tall, very skilled Heavyweight and stop him in only 12 rounds.. Your opponent had a million dollar training camp with X number of sparring partners to prevent you from breaking him down.. So the much easier path to victory would be to just outbox Wlad for 12 and just cruise to victory like Tyson Fury did.. He's an old man.. You can easily outbox him because your younger and faster. Having that 100% KO ratio is a burden in a way.. You're not going to keep that KO record forever anyway -- because nobody ever does.

Joshua is a light eater compared to Michael Phelps:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/rio-2016 ... s-success/

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 05:19
by asdfjkl
Cutman Scabbers wrote:
Kalan wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:

I don't know, but he's eating well!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... schko.html
You have to eat that much if you work out that hard... You're burning 5000 calories a day so you have to eat more...

People always ask if Joshua can go 12 rounds... If you're skilled and conditioned professional boxer, 12 rounds isn't tedious.. 15 rounds isn't tedious.. That's not the problem.. Getting hit a lot is tedious.. If he can box 8 sparring partners 15 rounds in the gym he can do it when the need arises.. Because he's hitting with 8 to 10 ounces of hand wraps and 32 ounces of gloves in the gym.. Sparring gloves weigh you down more than your gloves will ever burden you during a fight, and you're using a lot more tape and wrappings than the fight.. And you're always facing a fresh opponent and doing more than sparring. You're working harder. You've already worked out for an hour before you start sparring.

The idea isn't how many rounds you can go. It's how well you can box. How much you get hit versus the number of times your opponent is getting hit. How big, tall, long, strong, fast, skilled, and conditioned you are in comparison to your opponent. The pressure and the hits break you down no matter what your conditioning and strength are.

It's a very tough job to break down a very big, tall, very skilled Heavyweight and stop him in only 12 rounds.. Your opponent had a million dollar training camp with X number of sparring partners to prevent you from breaking him down.. So the much easier path to victory would be to just outbox Wlad for 12 and just cruise to victory like Tyson Fury did.. He's an old man.. You can easily outbox him because your younger and faster. Having that 100% KO ratio is a burden in a way.. You're not going to keep that KO record forever anyway -- because nobody ever does.

Joshua is a light eater compared to Michael Phelps:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/rio-2016 ... s-success/
That's a myth, as far as I know it's not even close

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 14:05
by Ilya Muromets
Completely even poll so far. 47 pick Wlad and 47 pick Joshua.

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 06:56
by Cutman Scabbers
Just to compare:

So what is it exactly being cooked up in Klitschko’s training camps, what can us mere mortals start eating to feel maybe a little like Superman? “Pasta with vegetables such as bell peppers, zucchini, mushrooms, and tomato, with garlic, basil and olive oil. Add in cooked chicken or beef for the protein.”

What does the champ eat on the day of the fight? “Day of the fight – oatmeal with berries and plain pasta with olive oil only. A little parmesan cheese is okay. No meat, veggie, or garlic. Drink lots of water. Eat the same for lunch and dinner day before fight.”

No protein the day of the fight? “Depends on the time of the fight. No less than 6-7 hours before. Wlad gets protein at 2 pm when he fights at 11 pm. By protein, I mean beef or chicken. Vegetable protein is different.”

So there you go, eat like the champ.

http://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/ ... tion-plan/

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 07:20
by Fyodor Jung
Wales wrote:So many questions going into this fight

Can Joshua take a punch?
Can he do the distance?

How is Wlad at 41? And are we overlooking a clear decline in Wlad? 2 fights in 2 years, 1 uninspiring win against a pre-fight perceived no-hoper in Jennings, followed by a defeat against Tyson Fury - a 4/1 underdog and only 4% of posters picked him to win by pts...
Dillian Whyte buzzed Joshua I think Wlad can do the same...Joshua is slower than Fury so Wlad might not be caused as many problems but!!! Joshua's power cannot be over looked I think Wlad on points

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 10:31
by Rob3_142
Fyodor Jung wrote:
Wales wrote:So many questions going into this fight

Can Joshua take a punch?
Can he do the distance?

How is Wlad at 41? And are we overlooking a clear decline in Wlad? 2 fights in 2 years, 1 uninspiring win against a pre-fight perceived no-hoper in Jennings, followed by a defeat against Tyson Fury - a 4/1 underdog and only 4% of posters picked him to win by pts...
Dillian Whyte buzzed Joshua I think Wlad can do the same...Joshua is slower than Fury so Wlad might not be caused as many problems but!!! Joshua's power cannot be over looked I think Wlad on points
I think it is fair to say that Joshua will not be approaching the Wlad fight like he approached the Whyte fight. The opening 1-3 rounds were nothing more than a brawl. Almost no boxing technique involved. Against Wlad, you can expect that the opening rounds will be extremely cagey and both fighters will be trying to get behind some good boxing.

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 11:58
by Cutman Scabbers
Fyodor Jung wrote:
Wales wrote:So many questions going into this fight

Can Joshua take a punch?
Can he do the distance?

How is Wlad at 41? And are we overlooking a clear decline in Wlad? 2 fights in 2 years, 1 uninspiring win against a pre-fight perceived no-hoper in Jennings, followed by a defeat against Tyson Fury - a 4/1 underdog and only 4% of posters picked him to win by pts...
Dillian Whyte buzzed Joshua I think Wlad can do the same...Joshua is slower than Fury so Wlad might not be caused as many problems but!!! Joshua's power cannot be over looked I think Wlad on points

Truly?

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 12:30
by Rob3_142
Cutman Scabbers wrote:
Fyodor Jung wrote:
Wales wrote:So many questions going into this fight

Can Joshua take a punch?
Can he do the distance?

How is Wlad at 41? And are we overlooking a clear decline in Wlad? 2 fights in 2 years, 1 uninspiring win against a pre-fight perceived no-hoper in Jennings, followed by a defeat against Tyson Fury - a 4/1 underdog and only 4% of posters picked him to win by pts...
Dillian Whyte buzzed Joshua I think Wlad can do the same...Joshua is slower than Fury so Wlad might not be caused as many problems but!!! Joshua's power cannot be over looked I think Wlad on points

Truly?
Nope - that's completely absurd.

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 12:36
by Tanzio
AJ should be able to take this. All logic suggests that Wlad is shot. However, AJ does not move like The King of Blow Mountain and he does not have the reach. He has not shown good head movement / feints. If Wlad can start landing his solid jab he may be able to line AJ up for the kill shot.

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 17:59
by crusader
I don't think that's an absurd suggestion, especially when it comes to footwork. AJ is far more explosive though....

It still seems strange to me that a lot of people act like AJ has very fast hands; they're fairly quick for a heavily-muscled banger his size, but overall his hand speed isn't anything special. Parker and Ruiz are faster, and guys like Wilder and Scott are at worst on the same level.

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 18:08
by thomasjkelley
I'm surprised at all the Joshua KO predictions, and many think it will be an early KO at that. I can't imagine a case where Klitschko will leave himself open for a big shot like that. Sure he's getting old but he is still one of the best boxers in history of Heavyweight division. I don't think there is a man alive who could knock him out if he decides he will not be knocked out. I can see him taking a boring decision loss at this stage in his career. He did it against Fury. I just don't see him wanting to win bad enough to take chances.

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 18:48
by Freedom2013
Wladimir Klitschko Net Worth

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/riches ... net-worth/
Wladimir Klitschko net worth: $60 Million
Not bad for a boxer who, according to Teddy Atlas, has "no chin, no skills and no cahones".

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 19:06
by Impractical Poster
I'm one of the few that cannot decide.

This is the first HW bout that I've been really excited for in a long long time.

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 20:12
by Evander
There are a number of questions surrounding this fight.

Klitschko's jab is a very important weapon and how he manages the distance.
Joshua's maturity level, what happens if Joshua falls behind, gets cut or starts eating right handers is he going to abandon his whole game plan.
It could well go off very early who knows but for some reason if Klitschko makes it down the stretch and the fight is even leads me to believe he's well equipped due to his experience.
Power wise both fighters are more than capable of taking the other out.
I'm looking forward to hopefully a good bout, it's warming up nicely.

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 20:53
by Kalan
Fyodor Jung wrote:
Wales wrote:So many questions going into this fight

Can Joshua take a punch?
Can he do the distance?

How is Wlad at 41? And are we overlooking a clear decline in Wlad? 2 fights in 2 years, 1 uninspiring win against a pre-fight perceived no-hoper in Jennings, followed by a defeat against Tyson Fury - a 4/1 underdog and only 4% of posters picked him to win by pts...
Dillian Whyte buzzed Joshua I think Wlad can do the same...Joshua is slower than Fury so Wlad might not be caused as many problems but!!! Joshua's power cannot be over looked I think Wlad on points
Joshua is not slower than Fury... Fury has many more rounds and is more experienced than Joshua... but if you've ever seen Fury sprint or try to do anything athletic you would know he suffers from a lack of speed and athleticism.. Joshua won Super Stars against other top athletes and Fury would finish dead last in that competition.. Fury is a natural boxer and Klitschko wasn't.. Fury sees everything coming and doesn't get hit cleanly very often..

Joshua has those same natural boxing instincts.. He's no Breazeale, Martin, Bruno, Morrison, Washington, Arreola, Bentt, Harrison, Chuvalo, Cockell, Bugner, Price, or various Heavyweight punching bags haters have variously tried to make him out to be.. AJ may have only 18 pro fights and not that many amateur fights.. That just means he's still going to get a lot better -- not that he won't plow Klitschko.

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 04:57
by stellar
only fuckings 3 days.Klicko Klicko klickooo last fight?lose or win?

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 06:00
by lazboy
Evander wrote:There are a number of questions surrounding this fight.

Klitschko's jab is a very important weapon and how he manages the distance.
Joshua's maturity level, what happens if Joshua falls behind, gets cut or starts eating right handers is he going to abandon his whole game plan.
It could well go off very early who knows but for some reason if Klitschko makes it down the stretch and the fight is even leads me to believe he's well equipped due to his experience.
Power wise both fighters are more than capable of taking the other out.
I'm looking forward to hopefully a good bout, it's warming up nicely.
Good post.

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 06:06
by Rob3_142
What's everyone doing for the fight?

I'm going to watch my team play last game of the season (Portslade Athletic), then pub with the lads, whilst watching Brighton clinch the Championship (I live in Brighton), then few beers in town with all the commotion, then back to mine around 9 for a bit of the card, wife putting out a spread, and having a full house!

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 09:01
by Bard of Boxrec
Joshua wins by easy KO in the first four rounds.

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 27 Apr 2017, 13:54
by Freedom2013

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 27 Apr 2017, 14:02
by Freedom2013

Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 27 Apr 2017, 15:46
by KiwiRider
Rob3_142 wrote:What's everyone doing for the fight?

I'm going to watch my team play last game of the season (Portslade Athletic), then pub with the lads, whilst watching Brighton clinch the Championship (I live in Brighton), then few beers in town with all the commotion, then back to mine around 9 for a bit of the card, wife putting out a spread, and having a full house!

Well, the fight starts live at 5am here on a Sunday morning.
Breakfast, farm duties to limber up, the recorder is set, and watch it mid morning with the missus. There will be some dead air, being live, so it's always good to watch it a bit behind so one can fast forward to the actual action. No beersies because I'd be asleep by dinner time :shame: