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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 14:53
by ValMar
Hearn is talking about Briggs ?

Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 15:23
by SaadOffTheDeck
ValMar wrote:Hearn is talking about Briggs ?
No, Allen looks the frontrunner.

Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 15:26
by lefty
Allen is the opponent for December 10th, it's been confirmed.

Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 15:31
by ValMar
lefty wrote:Allen is the opponent for December 10th, it's been confirmed.
Bad news. :verysad:

Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 15:39
by Enlightened-One
lefty wrote:Allen is the opponent for December 10th, it's been confirmed.
No disrespect to Dave Allen, but he’s a one-dimensional stereotypical typical 'stalk-til-they-can't-walk' type fighter that has been specifically-selected by Eddie Hearn as a reputation-building sacrificial lamb, with the sole aim to rebuild Luis Ortiz’s “fearsome” status in the sport.

When the Cuban quickly disposes of his limited opponent, I really hope that people refrain from riding the Luis Ortiz hype train.

Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 16:28
by ValMar
Enlightened-One wrote:
lefty wrote:Allen is the opponent for December 10th, it's been confirmed.
No disrespect to Dave Allen, but he’s a one-dimensional stereotypical typical 'stalk-til-they-can't-walk' type fighter that has been specifically-selected by Eddie Hearn as a reputation-building sacrificial lamb, with the sole aim to rebuild Luis Ortiz’s “fearsome” status in the sport.

When the Cuban quickly disposes of his limited opponent, I really hope that people refrain from riding the Luis Ortiz hype train.
Allen # 85, BOXREC, HW rating, today....sad, very sad........

Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 18:51
by SaadOffTheDeck
Lol, that's 17 days from now. Not sad at all. Best you could hope for.

Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 19:11
by Tony1244
Allen is young, he's got that going for him. Only loss is by points to Whyte, that's no disgrace.

Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 19:28
by Enlightened-One
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol, that's 17 days from now. Not sad at all. Best you could hope for.
Eddie Hearn was orchestrating Luis Ortiz's December 10th fight during mid-October.

A successful businessman like Eddie Hearn almost certainly considers his strategic calculations several moves ahead whenever he manoeuvres his proverbial chess pieces.

Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 19:45
by asdfjkl
I expect Allen to lose all rounds, but not to get KOed, he got an impressive chin.

Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 20:43
by Enlightened-One
Enlightened-One wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol, that's 17 days from now. Not sad at all. Best you could hope for.
Eddie Hearn was orchestrating Luis Ortiz's December 10th fight during mid-October.

A successful businessman like Eddie Hearn almost certainly considers his strategic calculations several moves ahead whenever he manoeuvres his proverbial chess pieces.
Well... it appears that I was right! :TU:

"Luis Ortiz has eye on future heading into bout vs. Dave Allen"

If Ortiz defeats Allen as expected, Hearn told ESPN he would like to match him with Whyte (19-1, 15 KOs) -- should Whyte defeat former world title challenger Dereck Chisora (26-6, 18 KOs) on the Dec. 10 card. And should Joshua (17-0, 17 KOs) defeat Molina (25-3, 19 KOs) and then defeat former world champion Wladimir Klitschko (64-4, 54 KOs) in a fight planned for March or April, Hearn said he would eventually like to give Ortiz a shot at Joshua.

:OhYes:

Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 02:21
by Tanzio
Enlightened-One wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol, that's 17 days from now. Not sad at all. Best you could hope for.
Eddie Hearn was orchestrating Luis Ortiz's December 10th fight during mid-October.

A successful businessman like Eddie Hearn almost certainly considers his strategic calculations several moves ahead whenever he manoeuvres his proverbial chess pieces.
Well... it appears that I was right! :TU:

"Luis Ortiz has eye on future heading into bout vs. Dave Allen"

If Ortiz defeats Allen as expected, Hearn told ESPN he would like to match him with Whyte (19-1, 15 KOs) -- should Whyte defeat former world title challenger Dereck Chisora (26-6, 18 KOs) on the Dec. 10 card. And should Joshua (17-0, 17 KOs) defeat Molina (25-3, 19 KOs) and then defeat former world champion Wladimir Klitschko (64-4, 54 KOs) in a fight planned for March or April, Hearn said he would eventually like to give Ortiz a shot at Joshua.

:OhYes:
The Briggs fear is palpable :OhYes: anybody catch him on the Rogan podcast?

Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 18:10
by funso banjo baby
Allen will be clubbed to defeat inside 6. it'll be a scrappy frustrating fight.

terrible matchup to make but at least its a quick return for Ortiz. normally a top fighter wouldn't be seen in the ring again for at least 3 months.

Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 15:16
by funso banjo baby
:salut:

Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10

Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 16:43
by ValMar
funso banjo baby wrote::salut:
Well...Chisora - Whyte ?