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Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 14:37
by Rob3_142
Horse wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:You really think so? Why?

I think the result is likely to make a mockery of that statement.

I'll be lumping money on a 1st or 2nd round KO. Bellew will be knocked cold by the first flush shot that lands.
For a long time I've rated Haye lower than most and Bellew higher than most.

Like I've said recently: "I still think that there is a good chance that Haye is a shadow of his former self. The only world level win that he's had in the last 6.5 years is against Chisora and how highly does anyone on here rate Chisora?".

Bellew is the WBC cruiserweight champion and isn't that much smaller than Haye. Haye was never a phenomenal heavyweight and he's not done anything decent in years.

I don't think that Haye is the monster that most people seem to think he is. Haye's fast and powerful, but there's a good chance that Bellew can stand up to it for longer than people think.

If Bellew can land a few times then old, inactive Haye could be in trouble, especially after the first few rounds.
Plus, when was the last time anyone came at Haye?

I think there's one thing that Bellew will do, and that is come at Haye like a crazy guy. Might force Haye into a different angle.

That said, I'd be extremely surprised if Haye doesn't get the KO inside 5 rounds.

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 14:39
by ThereByTheGrace
And the tagline for the fight simply must be;

"the fight for the right to be the biggest gobshite"

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 15:04
by bripez
Counter-puncher wrote:
Naandrew wrote:Hearn said that Breidis could fight Huck for the WBC belt. Hell thats better than Bellew cab Breidis



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q2VYWqHHOPc

just look at that smug fcuking face, doesn't it make you want to knock his teeth down his throat?

what a pudendum.
Daddy daddy look at me - I have been a good boy, please buy me a new sunbed.

Prick

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 15:06
by bripez
Boxerbeetle wrote:Anyone buying this on PPV needs their head examined. Bellew will get ko'd within 2 rounds and the full fight will be on YouTube within minutes.
Yeah but I can't wait an extra 2 minutes before I see it - it will be worth £17 to see it as it happens

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 15:12
by Taansend
bripez wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Anyone buying this on PPV needs their head examined. Bellew will get ko'd within 2 rounds and the full fight will be on YouTube within minutes.
Yeah but I can't wait an extra 2 minutes before I see it - it will be worth £17 to see it as it happens
:lol:

And I'll be watching on a stream here in Florida. Unless it's on Showtime

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 15:17
by Nightmare Roy
bripez wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Anyone buying this on PPV needs their head examined. Bellew will get ko'd within 2 rounds and the full fight will be on YouTube within minutes.
Yeah but I can't wait an extra 2 minutes before I see it - it will be worth £17 to see it as it happens
Sadist :OhYes:

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 15:21
by samwbr
Would Stevenson beat Haye at any stage of his career so far?

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 15:25
by Taansend
samwbr wrote:Would Stevenson beat Haye at any stage of his career so far?
Maybe the Haye that lost to Thompson or was troubled by Mock.

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 15:35
by TheLeprechaun
Haye has no heart for the game and is just coming for a few quid. Bellew will be terrified and coming for mckenzie masterclass part 2. Its not easy to stop a really negative fighter, as luis ortiz found recently.

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 15:57
by rossij8
crusader wrote:Anyone know when we'll get confirmation as to whether Bellew gets to keep his WBC title? It would be awesome if Huck-Briedis came out of this...
Eddie would have paid somebody off to avoid this

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 16:43
by lefty
Briggs is happy - http://www.BS.com/shannon-brig ... it--111100

Feathers will tell you and the press that this fight was already made but this is a lie. He secretly went behind allegedly back and signed the fight to avoid fighting me. He a bitch down to his last chromosome. Yes it's true this is the fight that I ultimately wanted besides [Klitschko] because it's a big money fight." "The money would have been ten times bigger than the few million he's getting to fight with his lil buddy that no one knows. To turn down a heavyweight title shot is a slap in the face to boxing itself. We work our entire lives to reach the highest place in the sport - the title. He's milking what lil name he has left for dancing shoes because apparently that's his next move. A dancing reality show." "I'll be suing him for what he did. Yes I have a contract from him but I laid low to let it play out. My attorney will be bringing his weak ass promotional company down. Champ you'll be paying me for wasting my time and walking away from millions of dollars. All because you scared. Because your heart weak. It ain't fully developed. You need to go see the Wizard of OZ. Sad thing is behind the curtain there is no wizard. He gonna tell y'all some lies so get ready. Look at him, piece of sh*t."

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 16:45
by Taansend
lefty wrote:Briggs is happy - http://www.BS.com/shannon-brig ... it--111100

Feathers will tell you and the press that this fight was already made but this is a lie. He secretly went behind allegedly back and signed the fight to avoid fighting me. He a bitch down to his last chromosome. Yes it's true this is the fight that I ultimately wanted besides [Klitschko] because it's a big money fight." "The money would have been ten times bigger than the few million he's getting to fight with his lil buddy that no one knows. To turn down a heavyweight title shot is a slap in the face to boxing itself. We work our entire lives to reach the highest place in the sport - the title. He's milking what lil name he has left for dancing shoes because apparently that's his next move. A dancing reality show." "I'll be suing him for what he did. Yes I have a contract from him but I laid low to let it play out. My attorney will be bringing his weak ass promotional company down. Champ you'll be paying me for wasting my time and walking away from millions of dollars. All because you scared. Because your heart weak. It ain't fully developed. You need to go see the Wizard of OZ. Sad thing is behind the curtain there is no wizard. He gonna tell y'all some lies so get ready. Look at him, piece of sh*t."
Bloody hell this is all getting a bit emotional.

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 17:24
by Exoddus
Haye's best win at heavyweight is still Derek Chisora. Some people may say Valuev, but I watched a 100 year old Evander Holyfield beat him the fight before.

It would be nice to see Haye actually fight a legitimate top 10 heavyweight, because the last time he did he only won a couple of rounds.

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 17:32
by chinarich
I have zero interest in watching this and I don't think it will go past three rounds. Bellew doesn't have the ring smarts to keep away from Haye for long enough to turn the tables, he'll just try and trade with him. This is obviously the biggest payday out there for either of them at the moment and the risk / reward works for Haye so I can see why it's happening.

I wonder what weight Bellew will come in at, anything above 210 would be ridiculous...

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 17:46
by SamWise72
So we have Bellew, who couldn't beat a moderate Nathan Cleverly at light heavy, taking on a man who was the best cruiser in the world, and one of the best in history, at heavyweight, likely at a 30 pound disadvantage? This has got see saw thriller written all over it.

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 19:10
by asdfjkl
Even more evidence Daffy is scared of Briggs, but whatever, nobody cares about this fight as far as I know.

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 05:03
by tonyevs
What a sad state boxing is in if rubbish like this sells. What does that tell you of the boxing scene?

Bellew, as far as I understand it, is regarded as a bit of a joke by most .. and an idiot by all.
Haye has come from highly respected - to a fraud also.
So it's quite amazing this fight sells.

Good for them if they get the pay day; pity the fools who buy it though.

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 05:35
by Andrew
Bellew is retiring after this fight IMO

He's already achieved his dream at goodison a few months ago. This is just the retirement money.

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 05:45
by DannyMCR
Naandrew wrote:Bellew is retiring after this fight IMO

He's already achieved his dream at goodison a few months ago. This is just the retirement money.
I agree, at least he can retire as an "undefeated world champion AT cruiserweight" I can already hear it

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 05:53
by samwbr
its a bloody pantomime. Got no sporting credibility, just a faux grudge.

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 06:08
by Horse
Naandrew wrote:Bellew is retiring after this fight IMO

He's already achieved his dream at goodison a few months ago. This is just the retirement money.
Why not cash out again against Lebedev/Huck etc.?

If he beats Haye then cash in/out against Joshua.

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 07:41
by Nightmare Roy
tonyevs wrote:What a sad state boxing is in if rubbish like this sells. What does that tell you of the boxing scene?

Bellew, as far as I understand it, is regarded as a bit of a joke by most .. and an idiot by all.
Haye has come from highly respected - to a fraud also.
So it's quite amazing this fight sells.

Good for them if they get the pay day; pity the fools who buy it though.
It will sell, the casuals are going nuts for it, there is genuine BEEF between these two! :TU:

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 07:43
by Killer Blow
Horse wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:You really think so? Why?

I think the result is likely to make a mockery of that statement.

I'll be lumping money on a 1st or 2nd round KO. Bellew will be knocked cold by the first flush shot that lands.
For a long time I've rated Haye lower than most and Bellew higher than most.

Like I've said recently: "I still think that there is a good chance that Haye is a shadow of his former self. The only world level win that he's had in the last 6.5 years is against Chisora and how highly does anyone on here rate Chisora?".

Bellew is the WBC cruiserweight champion and isn't that much smaller than Haye. Haye was never a phenomenal heavyweight and he's not done anything decent in years.

I don't think that Haye is the monster that most people seem to think he is. Haye's fast and powerful, but there's a good chance that Bellew can stand up to it for longer than people think.

If Bellew can land a few times then old, inactive Haye could be in trouble, especially after the first few rounds.
You're missing one thing: Bellew probably gets beaten by at least 8 guys in his own division. He wouldn't have a chance against any top 50 heavyweight.

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 07:43
by Counter-puncher
Nightmare Roy wrote:
tonyevs wrote:What a sad state boxing is in if rubbish like this sells. What does that tell you of the boxing scene?

Bellew, as far as I understand it, is regarded as a bit of a joke by most .. and an idiot by all.
Haye has come from highly respected - to a fraud also.
So it's quite amazing this fight sells.

Good for them if they get the pay day; pity the fools who buy it though.
It will sell, the casuals are going nuts for it, there is genuine BEEF between these two! :TU:

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFFFFFFF!

Re: Haye vs Bellew is ON

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 07:56
by littlepug
Got to say Bellew has played his cards well, he's gone from getting dropped at LH domestic level to starring in a rocky film, winning a world title at Goodison and getting a heavyweight big money fight, he must be like the cat that got the cream !