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Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 17:34
by dirk2686
KiwiRider wrote:Naandrew wrote:KiwiRider wrote:I'm from New Zealand, a huge boxing fan, and I haven't ever watched JP fight.
Why?
Because here, every fight he has had is PPV!
And I don't think any of his opponents have been worth paying to view. I was close to coughing up the dough for the Carlos Fight being his first match up inside the top 20. Ruiz was a joke to be fair.
How JP ever made it up the rankings by fighting guys outside the top 50 is beyond comprehension. But that's boxing for you.
I think Fury could beat JP if only he had another one or two fights before hand.
But JP's promoter will make him keep the belt he was gifted at all costs, a lot like the other plastic champion Wilder.
So I have to back Parker to win.
Will I pay to see it?
No chance. Not worth it.
What's it like getting into New Zealand with criminal records ? Is it really strict ?
Reason I'm asking is because Hughies dad and trainer has two prison terms one for drug related and money laundering. This stopped him getting into America a few years ago to train Tyson for his fight with Steve Cunningham.
The whole thing is pretty selective. Bob Marley got in. Like the way the world works, it's not what you know...
Did Bob Marley get a ten year stretch for money laundering?
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 19:18
by CaptainSpacerod
Deserter wrote:I looked at the poll results and feel like I've slipped into some strange parallel universe. On what basis is anyone tipping Fury, who hasn't got a single win of note and who hasn't fought in nearly a year? Parker isn't in AJ or Wilder's league, but it's still a massive leap up for Hughie and I just can't make a case for him at all.
I'm totally in agreement with you, Hughie's never done anything to suggest he's even remotely world level.
I think it must be down to Hughie's family situation, he's a boxer who's the cousin of the de facto world heavyweight champ who he regularly trains with so therefore he must be pretty good also seems to be the reasoning.
However, there's £2837 available at odds of 1.55 on Betfair to back Parker to win which seems amazingly good value.
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 20:19
by jameswilson
Parker will walk through him.
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 13 Feb 2017, 00:41
by gilgamesh
jameswilson wrote:Parker will walk through him.
If he couldn't walk through fatass Ruiz I doubt he walks through anybody at this level.
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 13 Feb 2017, 04:53
by mickey1975
jameswilson wrote:Parker will walk through him.
He won't.
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 13 Feb 2017, 04:55
by mickey1975
dirk2686 wrote:KiwiRider wrote:Naandrew wrote:
What's it like getting into New Zealand with criminal records ? Is it really strict ?
Reason I'm asking is because Hughies dad and trainer has two prison terms one for drug related and money laundering. This stopped him getting into America a few years ago to train Tyson for his fight with Steve Cunningham.
The whole thing is pretty selective. Bob Marley got in. Like the way the world works, it's not what you know...
Did Bob Marley get a ten year stretch for money laundering?
Peter never. He got it for conspiracy to supply drugs. He got a 12 months for breaking financial orders and has since paid back a million pounds back to the POCA.
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 13 Feb 2017, 05:03
by Boxerbeetle
gilgamesh wrote:jameswilson wrote:Parker will walk through him.
If he couldn't walk through fatass Ruiz I doubt he walks through anybody at this level.
Ruiz is a tank though. And it's not even clear whether Hughie is at this level.
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 13 Feb 2017, 10:07
by mickey1975
Boxerbeetle wrote:gilgamesh wrote:jameswilson wrote:Parker will walk through him.
If he couldn't walk through fatass Ruiz I doubt he walks through anybody at this level.
Ruiz is a tank though. And it's not even clear whether Hughie is at this level.
I'm sure several world class sparring partners from being a junior will have given them a rough idea.
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 13 Feb 2017, 16:05
by Deserter
mickey1975 wrote:Boxerbeetle wrote:gilgamesh wrote:
If he couldn't walk through fatass Ruiz I doubt he walks through anybody at this level.
Ruiz is a tank though. And it's not even clear whether Hughie is at this level.
I'm sure several world class sparring partners from being a junior will have given them a rough idea.
Mickey you know as well as anyone that is far from a given.
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 13 Feb 2017, 18:51
by mickey1975
Deserter wrote:mickey1975 wrote:Boxerbeetle wrote:
Ruiz is a tank though. And it's not even clear whether Hughie is at this level.
I'm sure several world class sparring partners from being a junior will have given them a rough idea.
Mickey you know as well as anyone that is far from a given.
Maybe so, but he's not your average 22 year old kid. He's been in deep from a very young age.
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 13 Feb 2017, 18:56
by Like a Boss
Boxerbeetle wrote:gilgamesh wrote:jameswilson wrote:Parker will walk through him.
If he couldn't walk through fatass Ruiz I doubt he walks through anybody at this level.
Ruiz is a tank though. And it's not even clear whether Hughie is at this level.
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 23 Feb 2017, 16:28
by wesshaw1985
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 23 Feb 2017, 16:47
by samwbr
Don't they fancy the job? When's he getting a payday like this again if he turns it down ?
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 23 Feb 2017, 16:55
by mullenman
Something fishy about that story
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 23 Feb 2017, 17:16
by crusader
samwbr wrote:Don't they fancy the job? When's he getting a payday like this again if he turns it down ?
No kidding
Who else does he have a realistic chance of fighting for $1.2m? Parker is the weakest champ too, so this really seems like an excellent opportunity.
Re: WHO WINS? Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury
Posted: 24 Feb 2017, 12:52
by wesshaw1985
allegedly - @allegedly_tv - 6 hours ago
Contract is now signed for @hughiefury to face @joeboxerparker for the @WorldBoxingOrg World Heavyweight Championship! #andthenew
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury - May 6th 2017
Posted: 27 Feb 2017, 09:09
by wesshaw1985
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury - May 6th 2017
Posted: 08 Mar 2017, 03:51
by wesshaw1985
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury - May 6th 2017
Posted: 08 Mar 2017, 12:35
by wesshaw1985
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury - May 6th 2017
Posted: 08 Mar 2017, 17:07
by Andrew
Only when Hughie steps foot in New Zealand should anyone assume this fight is going ahead.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury - May 6th 2017
Posted: 08 Mar 2017, 17:13
by Taansend
Come on Hughie
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury - May 6th 2017
Posted: 08 Mar 2017, 17:38
by Coco
Parker obv is a bit of an unknown quantity as he has never really stepped up, but then you could say that about Joshua!
Nevertheless I don't think Fury will ever get a better chance to win a world title.
Lack of knockout power and the judging in New Zealand will be his biggest problem
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury - May 6th 2017
Posted: 08 Mar 2017, 19:02
by nmhz
Coco wrote:Parker obv is a bit of an unknown quantity as he has never really stepped up
What about Ruiz & Takam?
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury - May 6th 2017
Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 04:02
by BitPlayer
nmhz wrote:Coco wrote:Parker obv is a bit of an unknown quantity as he has never really stepped up
What about Ruiz & Takam?
Yeah I'd say we have a fairly good idea where his level is right now. But he's young enough to improve.
Re: Joseph Parker vs. Hughie Fury - May 6th 2017
Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 05:41
by Coco
nmhz wrote:Coco wrote:Parker obv is a bit of an unknown quantity as he has never really stepped up
What about Ruiz & Takam?
It's the nature of the game today, who have they really fought? Ruiz had the undefeated padded record, however Takram did beat Tony Thomson.