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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

PBPALBG wrote:Dana White makes Floyd an offer on The Herd show, 25 mil and half PPV each for a mcgregor fight

Boxing or MMA?

Boxing, Floyd should do it.

Easily

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
And will have to pay his 10% or whatever it is, Mayweather gets to keep his so it is reflected.

Mayweather's pay should be McGregor + White, not what McGregor gets. Mayweather promotions would be co promoter of the event.

But McGregor pays White out of his purse. Mayweather's purse would be the same as McGregor + White if they both got 25m. The promotional company will make their money from the TVs rights and PPV sales too.

Mayweather got more than that vs Andre Berto.

IKSRTFO wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

Mayweather's pay should be McGregor + White, not what McGregor gets. Mayweather promotions would be co promoter of the event.

But McGregor pays White out of his purse. Mayweather's purse would be the same as McGregor + White if they both got 25m. The promotional company will make their money from the TVs rights and PPV sales too.

Mayweather got more than that vs Andre Berto.

How could you possibly know what he'll get from the PPV to say that? This fight would outsell Mayweather Berto. Considerably I would Imagine too. His total earnings would outstrip Berto I would think.

He didn't even hit his upside for Berto. He either got 42 or 40 guaranteed, it lost money so that would be it.

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He didn't even hit his upside for Berto. He either got 42 or 40 guaranteed, it lost money so that would be it.

Damn near any fight is gonna lose money when you're paying one guy 40 Mil or more. That's unsustainable, and you'd think it'd be obvious to anyone that's not a complete idiot. Don't know why promoters ever started paying guys like that in the first place.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
But McGregor pays White out of his purse. Mayweather's purse would be the same as McGregor + White if they both got 25m. The promotional company will make their money from the TVs rights and PPV sales too.

Mayweather got more than that vs Andre Berto.

How could you possibly know what he'll get from the PPV to say that? This fight would outsell Mayweather Berto. Considerably I would Imagine too. His total earnings would outstrip Berto I would think.

If Dana is talking like McGregor is the Pacquiao level seller that fought Floyd, then it would make sense to pay Mayweather similar to what he got paid for Pacquiao, right?

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He didn't even hit his upside for Berto. He either got 42 or 40 guaranteed, it lost money so that would be it.

Damn near any fight is gonna lose money when you're paying one guy 40 Mil or more. That's unsustainable, and you'd think it'd be obvious to anyone that's not a complete idiot. Don't know why promoters ever started paying guys like that in the first place.

CBS made money on floyds contract. The casiono's and premium cable is what led to the ridiculous purses. Not to mention the promoters stopped promoting. Biggest problem in the sport from a fans standpoint.

mistersaintlaurent wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:It's not Conor or nothing. Pacquaio would make money, a Canelo rematch would make money, he could step up to middleweight and make a fortune fighting Golovkin. Stupid fight but it's far more interesting than this.

more interesting to you, not more interesting to the general public. floyd vs conor is bigger than pac rematch, canelo rematch or ggg, and a much easier fight as well. as floyd says, work smarter, not harder. if the easiest fight is also the most lucrative, why wouldn't that be the preferred fight?

You've been working in the combat sports industry for 19 years. Okay who are you?

have already stated that i post under my real name and this is my only account, despite lame accusations to the contrary.

Oh I agree, he can make huge money fighting McGregor and why shouldn't he? My point is there are options if he was interested. Canelo and Pac would sell well, GGG would be a super fight but also a fight that he doesn't need. I certainly know who I'd fight.

Don't recognise your name, googled you, so are you the wrestler of the same name who came up?

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Why do people think Dana White offered 50/50? He didn't. He offered $25m guarantee to both fighters and then said they would need to agree the PPV split.

darkstar81 wrote:Why do people think Dana White offered 50/50? He didn't. He offered $25m guarantee to both fighters and then said they would need to agree the PPV split.

If 25m each is not a 50/50 purse split then I don't know what is.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

darkstar81 wrote:Why do people think Dana White offered 50/50? He didn't. He offered $25m guarantee to both fighters and then said they would need to agree the PPV split.

If 25m each is not a 50/50 purse split then I don't know what is.

The UFC pays out far more on the back end.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

darkstar81 wrote:Why do people think Dana White offered 50/50? He didn't. He offered $25m guarantee to both fighters and then said they would need to agree the PPV split.

If 25m each is not a 50/50 purse split then I don't know what is.

That's just the guarantee. The actual split hasn't been discussed/offered etc.

This whole thing is just to get you all doing what you are doing. Talking about it.

Dana White? Fvck off fatty. Trying to make millions off of it for himself. If it happens I'd love to see it happen with McGregor retiring from MMA and severing all ties with White and the UFC and keeping a lot more of "his" share. No need for the fat bald fella to be involved.

Conor can't do it without them.

I'm thinking this is a waste of time talking about in a boxing forum. It is Floyd vs White and McGregor, 3 divas that want their names in the headlines. Make the fight, then we can talk.

It's 3 guys that know how to promote. Whether the fight happens is irrelevant.

I agree with Mayweather though, he's been a champion for 18 years and a major PPV draw for a decade, Mcgregor has only been big in the last couple of years. No way does Conor deserve an equal split of the revenue in a 'boxing match' when actual boxers have been sweating for years for an opportunity of a Mayweather payday.

darkstar81 wrote:I agree with Mayweather though, he's been a champion for 18 years and a major PPV draw for a decade, Mcgregor has only been big in the last couple of years. No way does Conor deserve an equal split of the revenue in a 'boxing match' when actual boxers have been sweating for years for an opportunity of a Mayweather payday.

That's not how pop culture works and pop culture is what drives PPV sales; not hard work.

$25m for an easy sparring session is smart business - Floyd seems worried about Conor for some reason - Floyd wants a guaranteed easy win over a handpicked patsy who Al Haymon can manipulate to follow the script - If Floyd wanted to take risks he would go after GGG at 154 or the Pac rematch - Canelo threw the first fight to Floyd and Haymon for the $5m bonus and so Floyd definitely does not want to fight Canelo in a REAL fight now though it would be very interesting and would sell well especially to mexicans -

punchoutsb wrote:

darkstar81 wrote:I agree with Mayweather though, he's been a champion for 18 years and a major PPV draw for a decade, Mcgregor has only been big in the last couple of years. No way does Conor deserve an equal split of the revenue in a 'boxing match' when actual boxers have been sweating for years for an opportunity of a Mayweather payday.

That's not how pop culture works and pop culture is what drives PPV sales; not hard work.

I don't buy that Conor deserves parity on the back of a couple of 1m+ PPV buys and being currently popular, also bear in mind the UFC tends to put on stacked cards. Mayweather is a bigger draw than Mcgregor, despite what Dana White thinks, and that is to a large part due to his longevity.

darkstar81 wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

darkstar81 wrote:I agree with Mayweather though, he's been a champion for 18 years and a major PPV draw for a decade, Mcgregor has only been big in the last couple of years. No way does Conor deserve an equal split of the revenue in a 'boxing match' when actual boxers have been sweating for years for an opportunity of a Mayweather payday.

That's not how pop culture works and pop culture is what drives PPV sales; not hard work.

I don't buy that Conor deserves parity on the back of a couple of 1m+ PPV buys and being currently popular, also bear in mind the UFC tends to put on stacked cards. Mayweather is a bigger draw than Mcgregor, despite what Dana White thinks, and that is to a large part due to his longevity.

I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying networks and providers don't buy into sweat equity. McGregor is the IT person right now. He'd get a bigger payday against Floyd than anyone else in boxing with maybe a couple highest level exceptions no matter how hard someone else may have been working over the years. Don't deny the current power McGregor holds, it's pretty substantial.

punchoutsb wrote:

darkstar81 wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:
That's not how pop culture works and pop culture is what drives PPV sales; not hard work.

I don't buy that Conor deserves parity on the back of a couple of 1m+ PPV buys and being currently popular, also bear in mind the UFC tends to put on stacked cards. Mayweather is a bigger draw than Mcgregor, despite what Dana White thinks, and that is to a large part due to his longevity.

I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying networks and providers don't buy into sweat equity. McGregor is the IT person right now. He'd get a bigger payday against Floyd than anyone else in boxing with maybe a couple highest level exceptions no matter how hard someone else may have been working over the years. Don't deny the current power McGregor holds, it's pretty substantial.

I'm not downplaying McGregor's pull.. but to your comment, could Mayweather get a bigger payday against Pacquiao/Canelo/Golovkin? Possibly and those fighters deserve that payday more than McGregor. I don't deny this fight would make business sense for promoters/networks/the fighters etc, I just don't think it should happen but if it does Mayweather should get the bigger split.

darkstar81 wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

darkstar81 wrote:I agree with Mayweather though, he's been a champion for 18 years and a major PPV draw for a decade, Mcgregor has only been big in the last couple of years. No way does Conor deserve an equal split of the revenue in a 'boxing match' when actual boxers have been sweating for years for an opportunity of a Mayweather payday.

That's not how pop culture works and pop culture is what drives PPV sales; not hard work.

I don't buy that Conor deserves parity on the back of a couple of 1m+ PPV buys and being currently popular, also bear in mind the UFC tends to put on stacked cards. Mayweather is a bigger draw than Mcgregor, despite what Dana White thinks, and that is to a large part due to his longevity.

I'm not so sure that Floyd is the bigger PPV star currently. And current is all that counts. You put Conor up against Joe Shmo and I'll bet he sells more PPVs than Floyd did against Berto .