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Re: Could Bellew beat everyone Haye has beaten?

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 11:29
by gilgamesh
I figure Bellew would lose to at least 3 or 4 guys that Haye has beaten.

Chisora and Valuev surely would beat him

Re: Could Bellew beat everyone Haye has beaten?

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 14:29
by knockout
Comedy Central : A light heavyweight guy who has never fought at heavyweight is going to be a favourite against Ruiz 2009 and Valuev 2010?

They are by no means heavyweight legends but they knew how to use the assets they had to get the victory !

Despite his poor career Audley was still good enough to KO Michael Sprott who was a tough durable heavyweight! Not quite sure how Bellew beats him over 12?

Bellew beats Hayes last two opponents but then you have to go back to Hayes EBU defences at cruiserweight in 2006 to find guys Bellew would beat ( Abdoul and Johansen)

Gurov v Bellew is a pick em fight! Gurov could really whack from a southpaw stance , although Hayes right hand was too quick for him !

That's my opinion and until I see any evidence at heavyweight, I am sticking to it ! ;)

Re: Could Bellew beat everyone Haye has beaten?

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 14:58
by Supremo
Stuarty30 wrote:A prime Mormeck would've whipped Bellew. Enzo would've had a decent chance as well.

Exactly.

Re: Could Bellew beat everyone Haye has beaten?

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 15:12
by PredatorHayds
I think De Mori and The Cobra give Bellew a tough fight at HW.

Re: Could Bellew beat everyone Haye has beaten?

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 16:48
by TheGman
Ppl pickin thru hayes opposition how would haye of done against everyone bellend gas fought at cw? Haye would of knocked all of them out,if haye had fought the caliber of bellends opponents he would have a record like wilder 36 with 35 k.os

Re: Could Bellew beat everyone Haye has beaten?

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 16:55
by BitPlayer
PredatorHayds wrote:I think De Mori and The Cobra give Bellew a tough fight at HW.
De Mori got knocked out in a round by a cruiserweight with a losing record.
The Cobra couldn't knock out Zoltan Csala (knocked out by Gary Cornish) and took 7 round to knock out someone light punching Hughie Fury knocked out in 2.

Re: Could Bellew beat everyone Haye has beaten?

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 17:11
by boxingknockout
PredatorHayds wrote:I think De Mori and The Cobra give Bellew a tough fight at HW.
Not sure about that!

Re: Could Bellew beat everyone Haye has beaten?

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 19:38
by Lenny
knockout wrote:Comedy Central : A light heavyweight guy who has never fought at heavyweight is going to be a favourite against Ruiz 2009 and Valuev 2010?

They are by no means heavyweight legends but they knew how to use the assets they had to get the victory !

Despite his poor career Audley was still good enough to KO Michael Sprott who was a tough durable heavyweight! Not quite sure how Bellew beats him over 12?

Bellew beats Hayes last two opponents but then you have to go back to Hayes EBU defences at cruiserweight in 2006 to find guys Bellew would beat ( Abdoul and Johansen)

Gurov v Bellew is a pick em fight! Gurov could really whack from a southpaw stance , although Hayes right hand was too quick for him !

That's my opinion and until I see any evidence at heavyweight, I am sticking to it ! ;)
This. Bellew wouldn't get to Gurov early like Haye and Dunstan did. Would be a very tough fight for him. I'd back Harrison all day long against Bellew.

Re: Could Bellew beat everyone Haye has beaten?

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 22:17
by Crease
I don't think that Belleek (at his best) could live with Nikolai Valuev or John Ruiz - at their best.

:shame:

And Mormeck would have beaten him at Cruiserweight. Probably Enzo too (back in the day)

Re: Could Bellew beat everyone Haye has beaten?

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 23:51
by CaptainSpacerod
TheLeprechaun wrote:I'd price Bellew up at 1/3 vs Audley

Bellew 1/3 Valuev 5/2
Bellew 1/2 Enzo 7/4
Bellew 1/7 Barrett 5/1
Bellew 4/6 Mormeck 6/4
Bellew 4/9 Ruiz 2/1
You have Bellew shorter priced to beat Enzo than Haye was.

How have you priced Haye v Bellew ?