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Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 16:42
by crusader
Yep, interesting fight that.

Reminds me of Khomitsky

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Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 16:45
by 3132DW
Dixonian wrote:Talking of heavyweight prospects I see 10-0 Sean Turner was outpointed by tough-nut Sokolowski on Saturday.
I thought he looked pretty slow and cumbersome on the Conlan Belfast card in Feb - looked in poor condition.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 16:47
by 3132DW
crusader wrote:
Asterix wrote:
Dixonian wrote:Talking of heavyweight prospects I see 10-0 Sean Turner was outpointed by tough-nut Sokolowski on Saturday.
I wouldn't say he was a prospect.
I'd say he was a prospect. As an amateur he was Irish senior champ and fought internationally (including against AJ), and he also had some World Series of Boxing experience.

Clearly didn't look to be made for the top level though. Incidentally, Sokolowski is turning into quite the upsetter...
Cornish beat his easily on points in 6 rounder as well before his 2 good wins recently.

With 2 decent wins he won't be high on list of journeyman for some promotors again now.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 08:57
by Rob3_142
Dubois set be back out on 20th May - more of the same? Or someone at least English level?

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 09:16
by Stuffs
Dixonian wrote:
crusader wrote:
Asterix wrote: I wouldn't say he was a prospect.
I'd say he was a prospect. As an amateur he was Irish senior champ and fought internationally (including against AJ), and he also had some World Series of Boxing experience.

Clearly didn't look to be made for the top level though. Incidentally, Sokolowski is turning into quite the upsetter...
And his fight with Josh Sandland should be a good matchup.
Thinking of going to that, seeing what Sandland is all about. Certainly having a baptism of fire.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 09:50
by Asterix
Rob3_142 wrote:Dubois set be back out on 20th May - more of the same? Or someone at least English level?
Got to be more of the same, I think. He really needs experience right now.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 10:48
by PredatorHayds
More of the same is needed.

He's talented but has very limited amateur experience. Don't think he boxed as a senior. I'm happy for him to get to 10-0 before he even considers English level.

He's only 19.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 11:02
by TheLeprechaun
3132DW wrote:
Dixonian wrote:Talking of heavyweight prospects I see 10-0 Sean Turner was outpointed by tough-nut Sokolowski on Saturday.
I thought he looked pretty slow and cumbersome on the Conlan Belfast card in Feb - looked in poor condition.

Turner isn't a prospect. He's a journeyman. He looks like he spends his spare time in McDonalds. I think he could be decent if he shifted weight but as he is he is far too easy to outbox. Could be that the loss makes him get his act together though.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 11:10
by ozzy1875
TheLeprechaun wrote:
3132DW wrote:
Dixonian wrote:Talking of heavyweight prospects I see 10-0 Sean Turner was outpointed by tough-nut Sokolowski on Saturday.
I thought he looked pretty slow and cumbersome on the Conlan Belfast card in Feb - looked in poor condition.

Turner isn't a prospect. He's a journeyman. He looks like he spends his spare time in McDonalds. I think he could be decent if he shifted weight but as he is he is far too easy to outbox. Could be that the loss makes him get his act together though.
I know he's just lost but what a load of bollocks, Turner certainly isn't a journeyman. He boxed at a decent level on the amateur scene and has now had 11 fights as a pro. There was talk of him boxing for the Irish title against Con Sheehan so he's certainly not a journeyman.

Agree though, he needs to shed weight and he had been doing, he got down to 230 lbs for his first fight this year but against Sokolowski he'd put on more than 20lbs!

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 11:28
by TheLeprechaun
ozzy1875 wrote:
TheLeprechaun wrote:
3132DW wrote:
I thought he looked pretty slow and cumbersome on the Conlan Belfast card in Feb - looked in poor condition.

Turner isn't a prospect. He's a journeyman. He looks like he spends his spare time in McDonalds. I think he could be decent if he shifted weight but as he is he is far too easy to outbox. Could be that the loss makes him get his act together though.
I know he's just lost but what a load of bollocks, Turner certainly isn't a journeyman. He boxed at a decent level on the amateur scene and has now had 11 fights as a pro. There was talk of him boxing for the Irish title against Con Sheehan so he's certainly not a journeyman.

Agree though, he needs to shed weight and he had been doing, he got down to 230 lbs for his first fight this year but against Sokolowski he'd put on more than 20lbs!


Mate, he's lost to a 3-9 journeyman fighter.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 11:52
by ozzy1875
TheLeprechaun wrote:
ozzy1875 wrote:
TheLeprechaun wrote:

Turner isn't a prospect. He's a journeyman. He looks like he spends his spare time in McDonalds. I think he could be decent if he shifted weight but as he is he is far too easy to outbox. Could be that the loss makes him get his act together though.
I know he's just lost but what a load of bollocks, Turner certainly isn't a journeyman. He boxed at a decent level on the amateur scene and has now had 11 fights as a pro. There was talk of him boxing for the Irish title against Con Sheehan so he's certainly not a journeyman.

Agree though, he needs to shed weight and he had been doing, he got down to 230 lbs for his first fight this year but against Sokolowski he'd put on more than 20lbs!


Mate, he's lost to a 3-9 journeyman fighter.
Anthony Crolla lost to a then 3-8 Youssef Al Hamidi early in his pro career and look what he's turned into. Not saying Turner does the same but he's certainly not a journeyman.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 12:32
by TheLeprechaun
ozzy1875 wrote:
TheLeprechaun wrote:
ozzy1875 wrote:
I know he's just lost but what a load of bollocks, Turner certainly isn't a journeyman. He boxed at a decent level on the amateur scene and has now had 11 fights as a pro. There was talk of him boxing for the Irish title against Con Sheehan so he's certainly not a journeyman.

Agree though, he needs to shed weight and he had been doing, he got down to 230 lbs for his first fight this year but against Sokolowski he'd put on more than 20lbs!


Mate, he's lost to a 3-9 journeyman fighter.
Anthony Crolla lost to a then 3-8 Youssef Al Hamidi early in his pro career and look what he's turned into. Not saying Turner does the same but he's certainly not a journeyman.

Good point on Crolla but you'll find very few other examples. I think Crolla overachieved and got good matchmaking due to the fact that he can sell a ticket. Turner is small for the weight and looks easy to outbox. It's a very bad result indeed. Best of luck to him but I would put a large sum of money on him not achieving what Crolla has.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 15:14
by boxingknockout
I've seen Sokolowski box in the flesh. He's extremely tough, comes to win but has been matched hard. He's not a big heavy either. He's not to be underestimated.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 16:59
by 3132DW
PredatorHayds wrote:More of the same is needed.

He's talented but has very limited amateur experience. Don't think he boxed as a senior. I'm happy for him to get to 10-0 before he even considers English level.

He's only 19.
Looking at David Howe/Jakov Gospic/H.Kisicek/Perkovic type journeymen possibly.

Maybe a Michael Sprott 2-3 fights down the line.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 03:56
by olij999
boxingknockout wrote:I've seen Sokolowski box in the flesh. He's extremely tough, comes to win but has been matched hard. He's not a big heavy either. He's not to be underestimated.
Agreed. I was ringside for Turner v Sokolowski last Saturday. Turner was not particularly impressive, but Sokolowski deserves a lot of credit - he came to win, showed a really good jab which stopped Turner getting close for most of the fight, moved his feet better than many heavies I've seen in the UK, and battled through a tough patch in round 5 where he got visibly hurt with body shots. Showed guts and skills. Certainly not your typical 3-9 fighter.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 06:27
by Dixonian
TheLeprechaun wrote:
ozzy1875 wrote:
TheLeprechaun wrote:


Mate, he's lost to a 3-9 journeyman fighter.
Anthony Crolla lost to a then 3-8 Youssef Al Hamidi early in his pro career and look what he's turned into. Not saying Turner does the same but he's certainly not a journeyman.

Good point on Crolla but you'll find very few other examples. I think Crolla overachieved and got good matchmaking due to the fact that he can sell a ticket. Turner is small for the weight and looks easy to outbox. It's a very bad result indeed. Best of luck to him but I would put a large sum of money on him not achieving what Crolla has.
Someone with a 10-1 record is not a journeyman. Though he may become one.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 06:28
by Dixonian
3132DW wrote:
PredatorHayds wrote:More of the same is needed.

He's talented but has very limited amateur experience. Don't think he boxed as a senior. I'm happy for him to get to 10-0 before he even considers English level.

He's only 19.
Looking at David Howe/Jakov Gospic/H.Kisicek/Perkovic type journeymen possibly.

Maybe a Michael Sprott 2-3 fights down the line.
Can people stop trying to inflict brain damage on Michael Sprott!

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 12:29
by Rob3_142
Dixonian wrote:
3132DW wrote:
PredatorHayds wrote:More of the same is needed.

He's talented but has very limited amateur experience. Don't think he boxed as a senior. I'm happy for him to get to 10-0 before he even considers English level.

He's only 19.
Looking at David Howe/Jakov Gospic/H.Kisicek/Perkovic type journeymen possibly.

Maybe a Michael Sprott 2-3 fights down the line.
Can people stop trying to inflict brain damage on Michael Sprott!
He should of hung his gloves up a long time ago.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 13:12
by wesshaw1985
Dubois just needs to keep active, keep churning out the wins and getting the rounds in.
Tom Dallas next at the Copperbox I reckon...

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 14:54
by crusader
Tom Dallas shouldn't be allowed to fight anymore

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 14:55
by Oiky
Can't believe Dubois is 19

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 16:33
by wesshaw1985
crusader wrote:Tom Dallas shouldn't be allowed to fight anymore
but if he is then Dubois should be allowed to sent him into retirement in 3 weeks time...

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 28 Apr 2017, 12:05
by ozzy1875
wesshaw1985 wrote:
crusader wrote:Tom Dallas shouldn't be allowed to fight anymore
but if he is then Dubois should be allowed to sent him into retirement in 3 weeks time...
I'm hoping they go for David Howe, I do think he'll be matched reasonably well Dubois.

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 09 May 2017, 06:58
by wesshaw1985

Re: Daniel Dubois

Posted: 10 May 2017, 14:36
by crusader
Sandland-Sokolowski not happening?