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Horse wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Well according to everybody who understands boxing.
If else, then what do you call this:
http://photo.BS.com/uploads/jo ... mpubox.jpg

First 4 rounds were simply for Joshua.

Boxing isn't all about counting punches.

The vast majority of people did not give Joshua the first 4 rounds.

You sound like someone who just copy pastes the commentators opinion.

asdfjkl wrote:You sound like someone who just copy pastes the commentators opinion.

No, I don't.

Horse wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:You sound like someone who just copy pastes the commentators opinion.

No, I don't.

Then what is going on in your opinion?
The facts are very very clear, Joshua was way more active, way more dominating and everything, till he wanted to finish, but couldn't do it and got out of breath.

Yes, Klitschko amazed by showing a much better performance as anyone, including me, ever expected, but ofcourse he's no way near as good as Joshua at this moment.

asdfjkl wrote:Then what is going on in your opinion?
The facts are very very clear, Joshua was way more active, way more dominating and everything, till he wanted to finish, but couldn't do it and got out of breath.

Yes, Klitschko amazed by showing a much better performance as anyone, including me, ever expected, but ofcourse he's no way near as good as Joshua at this moment.

The opinion of the people is that you are wrong.

Horse wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Then what is going on in your opinion?
The facts are very very clear, Joshua was way more active, way more dominating and everything, till he wanted to finish, but couldn't do it and got out of breath.

Yes, Klitschko amazed by showing a much better performance as anyone, including me, ever expected, but ofcourse he's no way near as good as Joshua at this moment.

The opinion of the people is that you are wrong.

That's your opinion, somehow facts clearly prove otherwise.

asdfjkl wrote:That's your opinion, somehow facts clearly prove otherwise.

Except that the facts prove me right and the people disagree with you.

asdfjkl wrote:

Horse wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:You sound like someone who just copy pastes the commentators opinion.

No, I don't.

Then what is going on in your opinion?
The facts are very very clear, Joshua was way more active, way more dominating and everything, till he wanted to finish, but couldn't do it and got out of breath.

Yes, Klitschko amazed by showing a much better performance as anyone, including me, ever expected, but ofcourse he's no way near as good as Joshua at this moment.

I don't mean to be disrespectful and you may have very good reasons for choosing your user name 'asdfjkl' but serious question here. . . . do you ever type stuff before thinking about it properly?

Jackson328 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Horse wrote:No, I don't.

Then what is going on in your opinion?
The facts are very very clear, Joshua was way more active, way more dominating and everything, till he wanted to finish, but couldn't do it and got out of breath.

Yes, Klitschko amazed by showing a much better performance as anyone, including me, ever expected, but ofcourse he's no way near as good as Joshua at this moment.

I don't mean to be disrespectful and you may have very good reasons for choosing your user name 'asdfjkl' but serious question here. . . . do you ever type stuff before thinking about it properly?

I even showed it, the judges had similar opinions, it's just the media who hyped Klitschko a lot and the casuals may feel like he was while he wasn't.

I showed the stats for a reason and I'll do it again since you seem to fail to notice:



For me the rounds are very clear.

asdfjkl wrote:

Jackson328 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Then what is going on in your opinion?
The facts are very very clear, Joshua was way more active, way more dominating and everything, till he wanted to finish, but couldn't do it and got out of breath.

Yes, Klitschko amazed by showing a much better performance as anyone, including me, ever expected, but ofcourse he's no way near as good as Joshua at this moment.

I don't mean to be disrespectful and you may have very good reasons for choosing your user name 'asdfjkl' but serious question here. . . . do you ever type stuff before thinking about it properly?

I even showed it, the judges had similar opinions, it's just the media who hyped Klitschko a lot and the casuals may feel like he was while he wasn't.

I showed the stats for a reason and I'll do it again since you seem to fail to notice:



For me the rounds are very clear.

12th round seemed pretty even though.

asdfjkl wrote:

Jackson328 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Then what is going on in your opinion?
The facts are very very clear, Joshua was way more active, way more dominating and everything, till he wanted to finish, but couldn't do it and got out of breath.

Yes, Klitschko amazed by showing a much better performance as anyone, including me, ever expected, but ofcourse he's no way near as good as Joshua at this moment.

I don't mean to be disrespectful and you may have very good reasons for choosing your user name 'asdfjkl' but serious question here. . . . do you ever type stuff before thinking about it properly?

I even showed it, the judges had similar opinions, it's just the media who hyped Klitschko a lot and the casuals may feel like he was while he wasn't.

I showed the stats for a reason and I'll do it again since you seem to fail to notice:



For me the rounds are very clear.

I love looking at stats though. Thanks for posting these.

Here's their overall total by round.

1 - J 9 - K 8
2 - J 12 - K 4
3 - J 10 - K 4
4 - J 12 - K 4
5 - J 22 - K 16
6 - J 5 - K 11
7 - J 5 - K 17
8 - J 6 - K 14
9 - J 6 - K 8
10 - J 5 - K 8
11 - J 15 - K 0

Total punches landed Joshua 107, Kiltschko 94. Up to, and including, the 10th round Klitschko landed more punches. Interesting stuff. There was a reason I loved this fight. Back & forth stuff.

Joshua-Klitschko II - Frontrunner is Las Vegas, Says Hearn - http://www.BS.com/joshua-klits ... rn--117986

wesshaw1985 wrote:Joshua-Klitschko II - Frontrunner is Las Vegas, Says Hearn - http://www.BS.com/joshua-klits ... rn--117986

??? Why the f*ck would they do this in Vegas. It would be bigger in the U.K. or in Germany...frankly it's sh*tty business to put this in America anywhere. The only way this would make sense would be if they were able to arrange it so that Deontay Wilder fought on the undercard or something and build it up into a fight between him and the winner, other than that doing this fight in the U.S. makes no sense.

gilgamesh wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:Joshua-Klitschko II - Frontrunner is Las Vegas, Says Hearn - http://www.BS.com/joshua-klits ... rn--117986

??? Why the f*ck would they do this in Vegas. It would be bigger in the U.K. or in Germany...frankly it's sh*tty business to put this in America anywhere. The only way this would make sense would be if they were able to arrange it so that Deontay Wilder fought on the undercard or something and build it up into a fight between him and the winner, other than that doing this fight in the U.S. makes no sense.

Hearn thinks AJ takes Hatton numbers over there, I don't think he gets anywhere near...

wesshaw1985 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:Joshua-Klitschko II - Frontrunner is Las Vegas, Says Hearn - http://www.BS.com/joshua-klits ... rn--117986

??? Why the f*ck would they do this in Vegas. It would be bigger in the U.K. or in Germany...frankly it's sh*tty business to put this in America anywhere. The only way this would make sense would be if they were able to arrange it so that Deontay Wilder fought on the undercard or something and build it up into a fight between him and the winner, other than that doing this fight in the U.S. makes no sense.

Hearn thinks AJ takes Hatton numbers over there, I don't think he gets anywhere near...

He definitely won't. Hatton only did big business when he was fighting Mayweather or Pac, I doubt his other U.S. fights were financial windfalls.

wesshaw1985 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:Joshua-Klitschko II - Frontrunner is Las Vegas, Says Hearn - http://www.BS.com/joshua-klits ... rn--117986

??? Why the f*ck would they do this in Vegas. It would be bigger in the U.K. or in Germany...frankly it's sh*tty business to put this in America anywhere. The only way this would make sense would be if they were able to arrange it so that Deontay Wilder fought on the undercard or something and build it up into a fight between him and the winner, other than that doing this fight in the U.S. makes no sense.

Hearn thinks AJ takes Hatton numbers over there, I don't think he gets anywhere near...

Gonna be Nigeria doe

Joshua/wilder woukdnt do much here. I guess he figures he'd get the ppvs back home anyway and has faith in his ability to promote. I would rather have it on during the day.

gilgamesh wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:Joshua-Klitschko II - Frontrunner is Las Vegas, Says Hearn - http://www.BS.com/joshua-klits ... rn--117986

??? Why the f*ck would they do this in Vegas. It would be bigger in the U.K. or in Germany...frankly it's sh*tty business to put this in America anywhere. The only way this would make sense would be if they were able to arrange it so that Deontay Wilder fought on the undercard or something and build it up into a fight between him and the winner, other than that doing this fight in the U.S. makes no sense.

It's a question, as ever, of numbers. The basic costs involved are paying the fighters, hiring the venue, paying for the undercard, the share which is paid back to TV companies, overheads, security, VAT. You recoup this from PPV sales, tickets, international TV and sponsors.

For me, the biggest question here is where is Joshua in terms of sales as a fighter in the US, and where does he stand as a fighter in the UK if he's fighting at 4/5 in the morning. Joshua has said himself today that November is the likely date for his next fight. Wembley is therefore a non-starter, so where do you have it here? Cardiff? That might work.

But I think at some point there will be a push to make Joshua more global, and this might be it?

I don't see there being any difference. Klitschko is not getting any younger, and is coming off of two losses.

Joshua-Klitschko II: Hearn Heads To Vegas To Speak With MGM - http://www.BS.com/joshua-klits ... gm--118389

The winner in AJ vs Klitschko are the fans, they will get another amazing spectacle.

gilgamesh wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:Joshua-Klitschko II - Frontrunner is Las Vegas, Says Hearn - http://www.BS.com/joshua-klits ... rn--117986

??? Why the f*ck would they do this in Vegas. It would be bigger in the U.K. or in Germany...frankly it's sh*tty business to put this in America anywhere. The only way this would make sense would be if they were able to arrange it so that Deontay Wilder fought on the undercard or something and build it up into a fight between him and the winner, other than that doing this fight in the U.S. makes no sense.

Casino drop money. They will pay huge sums to bring the fight there.

Good fight again

Joshua wins

Does anyone know what the rematch clause states in their contract? Does WK have to confirm by a certain date? I thought a decision would have been announced by now

The fight has to happen before Dec 2nd. Maybe they're going to wait a while with two monster fights coming up.

Why are Klitschko silent?
It's been three months and there's still no news