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Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:10
by jamesmcdonnell
craigjenkins05 wrote:He doesn't have power because he's constantly moving you can't get the power in your punches if you don't plant your feet
Even when he does plant his feet thetes no power.

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:10
by milpool
118-109, 117-110 x 2 Selby

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:10
by Boxerbeetle
Absurd scoring. Selby was poor tonight, won't go much further. No power and awful defence.

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:12
by Counter-puncher
I definitely think we'll hear about an injury to the right hand or chest infection or something after the fight

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:13
by Counter-puncher
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
craigjenkins05 wrote:He doesn't have power because he's constantly moving you can't get the power in your punches if you don't plant your feet
Even when he does plant his feet thetes no power.
I think that's because his punching technique is poor, he doesn't get full extension through the shoulder often, and to me it looks like he slaps a lot

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:13
by jamesmcdonnell
Thought selby won 10 of 12. Rosales was competitive but was landing very little most rounds.

Selby looks to lack the power to go to the top.

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:13
by ILikeBeer
Hello.

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:14
by jamesmcdonnell
Counter-puncher wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
craigjenkins05 wrote:He doesn't have power because he's constantly moving you can't get the power in your punches if you don't plant your feet
Even when he does plant his feet thetes no power.
I think that's because his punching technique is poor, he doesn't get full extension through the shoulder often, and to me it looks like he slaps a lot
Yes hes an arm puncher, no hip rotation.

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:16
by handsofstone
Had Selby winning 118-109 but I wasn't that impressed TBH, put down with a short right in the 1st it was a good win and footwork was excellent but his punches lacked accuracy, thought and dig, he picks his single shots well and he's quick enough and has enough skills to take him pretty far but those skills will be nullified pretty easily against top guys unless he learns to put a bit more snap in his punches

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:17
by Counter-puncher
Ah,he had 'blisters and stuff'

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:18
by skanksta
Boxing Prospect wrote:...what is the point in fighting if a card is gonna be 118 to a guy in a fight like that...
Can't see a problem with it.
Selby had all sorts of issues throughout, but did enough quality boxing and moving to win most of the rounds.
I had 116-112 (one drawn).

He ticked a load of boxes for his 9th fight against a quality gate-keeper.
He's gonna have to improve a lot, but no reason he can't win a belt - on points - and have a decent career.

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:18
by skanksta
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Even when he does plant his feet thetes no power.
I think that's because his punching technique is poor, he doesn't get full extension through the shoulder often, and to me it looks like he slaps a lot
Yes hes an arm puncher, no hip rotation.

ahem...
You must mean an arrrrrrrrrrr - um puncher.

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:20
by jamesmcdonnell
skanksta wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:
I think that's because his punching technique is poor, he doesn't get full extension through the shoulder often, and to me it looks like he slaps a lot
Yes hes an arm puncher, no hip rotation.

ahem...
You must mean an arrrrrrrrrrr - um puncher.
Obviously.

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:21
by Counter-puncher
"I don't even like boxing, imagine how good I'd be if I liked it" excellent stuff

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:21
by Counter-puncher
I'm liking the questions from this guy here

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:21
by craigjenkins05
Selby didn't look comfortable after the first round as if something was wrong maybe down to the fact he got dropped not sure though, why is this busy haired presenter who's Name I always forget practically necking Andrew selby can't he hold the mic away from him all in seeing is the back of his head

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:22
by jamesmcdonnell
One thing I'll say for Selby, he's as fit as a butchers dog, all that movement and he was barely even out of breath after the fight.

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:22
by Boxing Prospect
skanksta wrote:
Boxing Prospect wrote:...what is the point in fighting if a card is gonna be 118 to a guy in a fight like that...
Can't see a problem with it.
Selby had all sorts of issues throughout, but did enough quality boxing and moving to win most of the rounds.
I had 116-112 (one drawn).

He ticked a load of boxes for his 9th fight against a quality gate-keeper.
He's gonna have to improve a lot, but no reason he can't win a belt - on points - and have a decent career.
I can't see any way he won round 12... so that has him at 117 at best.

"No going to Japan, he'd have it on the cards"...yeah...Higa has needed the cards to help him so far...Murata had them in his pocket last weekend too....

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:24
by Counter-puncher
"Who likes getting punched in the face,because I don't, I just like the cheques"

Like the bluntness but not sure what that says about his grit when things get really tough for him

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:25
by manchester-mexican
Boxing Prospect wrote:...what is the point in fighting if a card is gonna be 118 to a guy in a fight like that...
thought it a bit closer myself

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:25
by paniam
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Even when he does plant his feet thetes no power.
I think that's because his punching technique is poor, he doesn't get full extension through the shoulder often, and to me it looks like he slaps a lot
Yes hes an arm puncher, no hip rotation.[/quote

I always think those fighters that do that grunting sound when they punch are doing so because of lack of power, trying to add something that nots there.

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:26
by skanksta
Boxing Prospect wrote:
skanksta wrote:
Boxing Prospect wrote:...what is the point in fighting if a card is gonna be 118 to a guy in a fight like that...
Can't see a problem with it.
Selby had all sorts of issues throughout, but did enough quality boxing and moving to win most of the rounds.
I had 116-112 (one drawn).

He ticked a load of boxes for his 9th fight against a quality gate-keeper.
He's gonna have to improve a lot, but no reason he can't win a belt - on points - and have a decent career.
I can't see any way he won round 12... so that has him at 117 at best.

"No going to Japan, he'd have it on the cards"...yeah...Higa has needed the cards to help him so far...Murata had them in his pocket last weekend too....

I gave CR R12, but even there AS was doing some masterful back-foot pick-pocketing.
It's not a good score, but think it was one of those fights - close in ring, but wide on the scorecards.

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:27
by jameswilson
Unfortunate choice of music from Marty Askin to be coming out to in Cardiff...l

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:28
by ILikeBeer
That's right.

Swing Low. Sweet Chariot. Coming for to carry me home. :yay:

Re: Andrew Selby vs Cristofer Rosales

Posted: 26 May 2017, 18:28
by skanksta
Boxing Prospect wrote:
skanksta wrote:
Boxing Prospect wrote:...what is the point in fighting if a card is gonna be 118 to a guy in a fight like that...
Can't see a problem with it.
Selby had all sorts of issues throughout, but did enough quality boxing and moving to win most of the rounds.
I had 116-112 (one drawn).

He ticked a load of boxes for his 9th fight against a quality gate-keeper.
He's gonna have to improve a lot, but no reason he can't win a belt - on points - and have a decent career.
I can't see any way he won round 12... so that has him at 117 at best.

"No going to Japan, he'd have it on the cards"...yeah...Higa has needed the cards to help him so far...Murata had them in his pocket last weekend too....
Quite.
I think Germany and then us are the most unfair, 'home-advantage on the cards countries' in the world and we assume everywhere else is just as bad !