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Freedom2013 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Do you think there is a difference between that guy and your constant Pro-White fighter fandom Freedom?

As a boy, I was as liberal as Tanzio. My favorite boxers were Joe Frazier and George Foreman, and my favorite baseball player was Hank Aaron.

But over the years, I saw at every fight I ever went to, the blacks ALWAYS rooted for blacks. Blacks would root for a foreign black boxer over a local white guy. Oh, I know sometimes a black TRAINER would root for his own fighter, but in general blacks supported their own, white liberal whites were color-blind. I saw my black co-workers in Canada while watching the Olympics would root for a foreign black athlete over a white athlete from our country.

Then I came to the boxing forums about 10 years ago, and I saw that the good white boxers like Wladimir Klitschko and Joe Calzaghe were constantly discredited and disparaged by black fans and by self-loathing white guys.

I also saw the boxing establishment in the USA favors black athletes over whites, Asians and Hispanics. Some examples: Kessler-Ward, Ward not needing to travel during the Super Six, Kovalev-Ward I & II, Pacquiao-Bradley, Rigo-Flores last night, and Max Kellerman and Teddy Atlas commentary.

I'm not "pro-white", but I've become somewhat "pro-not black" because I see African-Americans as being very privileged in boxing, the perfect example of this being Andre Ward. I root for the disadvantaged and the underdogs, regardless of race, and I'd love to see fair treatment for Asians, Whites, and Hispanics in boxing.

Freedom2013 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Do you think there is a difference between that guy and your constant Pro-White fighter fandom Freedom?

As a boy, I was as liberal as Tanzio. My favorite boxers were Joe Frazier and George Foreman, and my favorite baseball player was Hank Aaron.

But over the years, I saw at every fight I ever went to, the blacks ALWAYS rooted for blacks. Blacks would root for a foreign black boxer over a local white guy. Oh, I know sometimes a black TRAINER would root for his own fighter, but in general blacks supported their own, white liberal whites were color-blind. I saw my black co-workers in Canada while watching the Olympics would root for a foreign black athlete over a white athlete from our country.

Then I came to the boxing forums about 10 years ago, and I saw that the good white boxers like Wladimir Klitschko and Joe Calzaghe were constantly discredited and disparaged by black fans and by self-loathing white guys.

I also saw the boxing establishment in the USA favors black athletes over whites, Asians and Hispanics. Some examples: Kessler-Ward, Ward not needing to travel during the Super Six, Kovalev-Ward I & II, Pacquiao-Bradley, Rigo-Flores last night, and Max Kellerman and Teddy Atlas commentary.

I'm not "pro-white", but I've become somewhat "pro-not black" because I see African-Americans as being very privileged in boxing, the perfect example of this being Andre Ward. I root for the disadvantaged and the underdogs, regardless of race, and I'd love to see fair treatment for Asians, Whites, and Hispanics in boxing.

Gilgamesh wrote:You're saying that because Black people that you've seen don't cheer for Asians, Whites or Hispanics they don't succeed?

Jip wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Do you think there is a difference between that guy and your constant Pro-White fighter fandom Freedom?

As a boy, I was as liberal as Tanzio. My favorite boxers were Joe Frazier and George Foreman, and my favorite baseball player was Hank Aaron.

But over the years, I saw at every fight I ever went to, the blacks ALWAYS rooted for blacks. Blacks would root for a foreign black boxer over a local white guy. Oh, I know sometimes a black TRAINER would root for his own fighter, but in general blacks supported their own, white liberal whites were color-blind. I saw my black co-workers in Canada while watching the Olympics would root for a foreign black athlete over a white athlete from our country.

Then I came to the boxing forums about 10 years ago, and I saw that the good white boxers like Wladimir Klitschko and Joe Calzaghe were constantly discredited and disparaged by black fans and by self-loathing white guys.

I also saw the boxing establishment in the USA favors black athletes over whites, Asians and Hispanics. Some examples: Kessler-Ward, Ward not needing to travel during the Super Six, Kovalev-Ward I & II, Pacquiao-Bradley, Rigo-Flores last night, and Max Kellerman and Teddy Atlas commentary.

I'm not "pro-white", but I've become somewhat "pro-not black" because I see African-Americans as being very privileged in boxing, the perfect example of this being Andre Ward. I root for the disadvantaged and the underdogs, regardless of race, and I'd love to see fair treatment for Asians, Whites, and Hispanics in boxing.

Good post

Enlightened-One wrote:

Jip wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:As a boy, I was as liberal as Tanzio. My favorite boxers were Joe Frazier and George Foreman, and my favorite baseball player was Hank Aaron.

But over the years, I saw at every fight I ever went to, the blacks ALWAYS rooted for blacks. Blacks would root for a foreign black boxer over a local white guy. Oh, I know sometimes a black TRAINER would root for his own fighter, but in general blacks supported their own, white liberal whites were color-blind. I saw my black co-workers in Canada while watching the Olympics would root for a foreign black athlete over a white athlete from our country.

Then I came to the boxing forums about 10 years ago, and I saw that the good white boxers like Wladimir Klitschko and Joe Calzaghe were constantly discredited and disparaged by black fans and by self-loathing white guys.

I also saw the boxing establishment in the USA favors black athletes over whites, Asians and Hispanics. Some examples: Kessler-Ward, Ward not needing to travel during the Super Six, Kovalev-Ward I & II, Pacquiao-Bradley, Rigo-Flores last night, and Max Kellerman and Teddy Atlas commentary.

I'm not "pro-white", but I've become somewhat "pro-not black" because I see African-Americans as being very privileged in boxing, the perfect example of this being Andre Ward. I root for the disadvantaged and the underdogs, regardless of race, and I'd love to see fair treatment for Asians, Whites, and Hispanics in boxing.

Good post

There are some fûckïng racist twâts the frequent this forum and I have no idea about the reason they haven't been banned.

Freedom2013 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Do you think there is a difference between that guy and your constant Pro-White fighter fandom Freedom?

As a boy, I was as liberal as Tanzio. My favorite boxers were Joe Frazier and George Foreman, and my favorite baseball player was Hank Aaron.

But over the years, I saw at every fight I ever went to, the blacks ALWAYS rooted for blacks. Blacks would root for a foreign black boxer over a local white guy. Oh, I know sometimes a black TRAINER would root for his own fighter, but in general blacks supported their own, white liberal whites were color-blind. I saw my black co-workers in Canada while watching the Olympics would root for a foreign black athlete over a white athlete from our country.

Then I came to the boxing forums about 10 years ago, and I saw that the good white boxers like Wladimir Klitschko and Joe Calzaghe were constantly discredited and disparaged by black fans and by self-loathing white guys.

I also saw the boxing establishment in the USA favors black athletes over whites, Asians and Hispanics. Some examples: Kessler-Ward, Ward not needing to travel during the Super Six, Kovalev-Ward I & II, Pacquiao-Bradley, Rigo-Flores last night, and Max Kellerman and Teddy Atlas commentary.

I'm not "pro-white", but I've become somewhat "pro-not black" because I see African-Americans as being very privileged in boxing, the perfect example of this being Andre Ward. I root for the disadvantaged and the underdogs, regardless of race, and I'd love to see fair treatment for Asians, Whites, and Hispanics in boxing.

Freedom2013 wrote: I'm not "pro-white", but I've become somewhat "pro-not black" because I see African-Americans as being very privileged in boxing, the perfect example of this being Andre Ward. I root for the disadvantaged and the underdogs, regardless of race, and I'd love to see fair treatment for Asians, Whites, and Hispanics in boxing.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

watsupdoc87 wrote:I'm a bit confused here. I always thought"jip" was on of them bnovelist alter account. You know that mayweather and anything black fanatic. So am I wrong or is he really good at trolling? This forums strange, ppl with multiple accounts. Why you fukin loser's. You's post one thing and then reply in an alternative ego disagreeing to get the ball rolling. Like if you have that much time to spend on this site why not just go on some of them creepy dating sites and lose your virginity or start taking serious amounts of poo and enjoy life you sad fuks. Crystal meths a nice gateway drug similar to cigarettes, go give it a go. I can imagine some of you's multi accounts are married with kids and a job mortgage ect, haha and this is your little escape from your boring monotonous life. But most likely yez still live with ma and da wanking to tranny porn and stalking boxrec. As for the fight. I was up for kov (big fan) but whether low blow, taking a knee whatever he was finished in my opinion from previous round. Legs gone. Wasn't gonna win. Also besides the point I think shorts are way too high, your dik is between your legs not near the belly button. Not a fan of ward the person but as a boxer he's exceptional, always figures a way to win. Name of the game. Hope he goes up.

JIP is Cheapaaa

gilgamesh wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

Jip wrote:
Good post

There are some fûckïng racist twâts the frequent this forum and I have no idea about the reason they haven't been banned.

It's not against forum rules to prefer White fighters. It's against forum rules to drop the N bomb and stuff like that though. They haven't broken any forum rules...their comments may be in poor taste, but it doesn't break any rules.

armageto wrote:I'm lost because you are in your 50's, maybe 60's, online telling people about your plight for equal rights in boxing. Boxing isn't that much of a world issue to me. Call me crazy, but I rather see fair treatment for everyone OUTSIDE of boxing, more than anything.

Freedom2013 wrote:

armageto wrote:I'm lost because you are in your 50's, maybe 60's, online telling people about your plight for equal rights in boxing. Boxing isn't that much of a world issue to me. Call me crazy, but I rather see fair treatment for everyone OUTSIDE of boxing, more than anything.

But I'm a common man and so I cannot change the world, and neither can you.

It would be nice if the sport I enjoy the most - boxing - would have fair officiating. There wasn't much boxing on TV up here when I was growing up, or even during the 80s and 90s - maybe one or two fights a year - but during the past 12 years I have access to all I want through the internet.

I grew up seeing fair officiating in hockey, which was on TV a lot here in Canada, as well as in MLB and so I must have come to expect fair officiating in boxing too.

But perhaps I've been naive - boxing may be more fun to watch than other sports, at least for me - but many of the people who run it are much less honorable.

Enlightened-One wrote:So the guy constantly insults any fighter that is not white or is American, regardless his background, but that is OK by you?

Freedom2013 wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:So the guy constantly insults any fighter that is not white or is American, regardless his background, but that is OK by you?

I don't do that, you're lying.

I've never had anything but good to say about Manny Pacquiao, Mikey Garcia, Anthony Joshua, Joe Smith, Naoya Inoue, etc. But I've noticed you constantly insult any fighter who is not black and American, Brut. That's why you're other accounts were banned.

world ranked wrote:

Cent0089 wrote:

world ranked wrote:
I guest just because you haven't seen it. With the handful of blacks people you may know it not possible gtfoh.

Just saying. I was in London on Klitschko-Joshua fight and 90% of whites including me were cheering for Joshua. You will never ever seen this, even if some american white boxer fights in New York against someone from Congo .....will all black people in arena cheering after african guy is getting KO´d? I doubt. Just like original poster wrote, black fans (and not only them) acting like it was normal stoppage and showcasing of brilliant boxing skills by Ward.

Europe is different from the US. US fans don't blindly cheer for the US guy. The usually take a smarter approach.

Kalan wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Cent0089 wrote:
Just saying. I was in London on Klitschko-Joshua fight and 90% of whites including me were cheering for Joshua. You will never ever seen this, even if some american white boxer fights in New York against someone from Congo .....will all black people in arena cheering after african guy is getting KO´d? I doubt. Just like original poster wrote, black fans (and not only them) acting like it was normal stoppage and showcasing of brilliant boxing skills by Ward.

Europe is different from the US. US fans don't blindly cheer for the US guy. The usually take a smarter approach.

Americans are the worst... A lot of Americans think everything American has to be number one... Foreign fans are much more fair... You'll never see a foreign referee ignore flagrant low blows and ridiculous fouling if a North American is the victim -- unless its a Latino like Joe Cortez... He allowed John Ruiz to deliberately head butt Kirk Johnson right in the face.. And DQ'd Johnson for a borderline low blow that didn't do any damage.