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danconnollyeire wrote:Whyte has massive massive balls. He walked straight through AJ's shots for 6 rounds. He won't be afraid of Wilder which will cause him issues

Which will cause who issues? I can see that working both ways.

Sagaroth wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Chisora is hot and cold. He was good against an old Vitali, Helenius and Whyte.

He didn't show up against Fury and Pulev. He showed up against Haye and got his lights turned out.

It just depends on the day with him.

It is also important if the opponent will give you a chance to show up :)
In both cases (Pulev and Fury) Chisora didn't have any chance to perform...
Styles make fights as all of us know :)

You mis-quoted- I didn't say that. I think Del Boy sucks.

Enlightened-One wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:Whyte seems to be in a hurry to get starched.

I have to be honest, Deontay Wilder’s resume is pretty abysmal for a champion that has competed in so many fights and has also held his title for such a long time.

I wouldn’t be confident about ‘The Bronze Bomber’ having an “easy” time against a proven talent like Dillian Whyte.

This might appear to you to be a “ridiculous” claim to make, but I feel that a victory over Dillian Whyte would be the highlight of Deontay Wilder’s professional career… surpassing even his one-sided decision win over Bermane Stiverne.

The strange thing is… I don’t personally consider Dillian Whyte to be a world-beater, he's not overly-impressive, but I feel he would still be a huge step up in class for ‘The Bronze Bomber’.

Stiverne is a better opponent than Whyte.

Impractical Poster wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:Whyte seems to be in a hurry to get starched.

I have to be honest, Deontay Wilder’s resume is pretty abysmal for a champion that has competed in so many fights and has also held his title for such a long time.

I wouldn’t be confident about ‘The Bronze Bomber’ having an “easy” time against a proven talent like Dillian Whyte.

This might appear to you to be a “ridiculous” claim to make, but I feel that a victory over Dillian Whyte would be the highlight of Deontay Wilder’s professional career… surpassing even his one-sided decision win over Bermane Stiverne.

The strange thing is… I don’t personally consider Dillian Whyte to be a world-beater, he's not overly-impressive, but I feel he would still be a huge step up in class for ‘The Bronze Bomber’.

Stiverne is a better opponent than Whyte.

Deontay Wilder very publicly corroborated Eddie Hearn's offer for the Whyte bout when he openly admitted to rejecting a fight purse of $3m, by claiming he wanted $7m instead.

'The Bronze Bomber' was only paid $900K when he fought Gerald Washington. He received $1.4m for the Arreola fight, $1.5m to face Szpilka and $1.4m for the Duhaupas bout. Wilder’s purse for his first bout against Stiverne was only $1m, which is pretty poor considering he was on the proverbial A-side at the time.

Showtime doesn’t want to televise a potential rematch between Wilder-Stiverne (as confirmed by ESPN), but they’d almost certainly cover a Wilder-Whyte fight.

Dillian Whyte is rated above Bermane Stiverne by Boxrec, PBO, ESPN and also The RING, as well as by the IBF, WBO & IBO.

So Dillian Whyte is a not only a much better opponent for Deontay Wilder from a financial perspective (considering his purse would at least be double the size of his normal payday), but the Brit is universally considered a much better fighter than the controversial PED-using Haitian and will also attract a far bigger viewing audience.

Impractical Poster wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:Whyte seems to be in a hurry to get starched.

I have to be honest, Deontay Wilder’s resume is pretty abysmal for a champion that has competed in so many fights and has also held his title for such a long time.

I wouldn’t be confident about ‘The Bronze Bomber’ having an “easy” time against a proven talent like Dillian Whyte.

This might appear to you to be a “ridiculous” claim to make, but I feel that a victory over Dillian Whyte would be the highlight of Deontay Wilder’s professional career… surpassing even his one-sided decision win over Bermane Stiverne.

The strange thing is… I don’t personally consider Dillian Whyte to be a world-beater, he's not overly-impressive, but I feel he would still be a huge step up in class for ‘The Bronze Bomber’.

Stiverne is a better opponent than Whyte.

Says who?

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: I have to be honest, Deontay Wilder’s resume is pretty abysmal for a champion that has competed in so many fights and has also held his title for such a long time.

I wouldn’t be confident about ‘The Bronze Bomber’ having an “easy” time against a proven talent like Dillian Whyte.

This might appear to you to be a “ridiculous” claim to make, but I feel that a victory over Dillian Whyte would be the highlight of Deontay Wilder’s professional career… surpassing even his one-sided decision win over Bermane Stiverne.

The strange thing is… I don’t personally consider Dillian Whyte to be a world-beater, he's not overly-impressive, but I feel he would still be a huge step up in class for ‘The Bronze Bomber’.

Stiverne is a better opponent than Whyte.

Says who?

What makes Whyte a more credible opponent than Stiverne? A SD win over Chisora?

punchoutsb wrote:

Sagaroth wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Chisora is hot and cold. He was good against an old Vitali, Helenius and Whyte.

He didn't show up against Fury and Pulev. He showed up against Haye and got his lights turned out.

It just depends on the day with him.

It is also important if the opponent will give you a chance to show up :)
In both cases (Pulev and Fury) Chisora didn't have any chance to perform...
Styles make fights as all of us know :)

You mis-quoted- I didn't say that. I think Del Boy sucks.

Sorry mate :)

This was to *Loki

Impractical Poster wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote: Stiverne is a better opponent than Whyte.

Says who?

What makes Whyte a more credible opponent than Stiverne? A SD win over Chisora?

when he's up against someone who's best win is a shopworn Chris Arreola, yes.

Maybe there isn't much in it. I don't see much to suggest Stiverne is better.

Whyte is at least on Stiverne's level...I think he's a better all-rounder and would certainly pick him to beat Stiverne now. Stiverne is very lazy and has looked like crap in several fights, and I still remember how clueless he looked when 40-year old Ray Austin gave him a boxing lesson and jabbed his head off for nearly 10 rounds. I recall that IP claimed that Wilder has the best jab in the division, seemingly just based on Wilder's win over Stiverne, but even Austin looked like a Holmes reincarnation against Stiv.

By the way, what even puts Stiverne above Chisora? If you deride Chisora, you also make a mockery of Wilder's resume. Chis KO'd one of Wilder's best opponents and would very arguably be superior to anyone Deontay's fought; Gerald 'terrified of Big Baby' Washington, shot Arreola, Arreola 1 round victim Molina, Chisora victim Malik Scott, Euro gatekeeper Duhaupas, Szpilka, Stiverne.....not much quality, is there? I mean, after nearly 10 years and 40 fights his best opponent is Stiverne

Pretty funny that some posters have declared their support for Wilder because they think the poor guy gets it too tough. War Wilder and mediocre fights!!!

crusader wrote:Whyte is at least on Stiverne's level...I think he's a better all-rounder and would certainly pick him to beat Stiverne now. Stiverne is very lazy and has looked like crap in several fights, and I still remember how clueless he looked when 40-year old Ray Austin gave him a boxing lesson and jabbed his head off for nearly 10 rounds. I recall that IP claimed that Wilder has the best jab in the division, seemingly just based on Wilder's win over Stiverne, but even Austin looked like a Holmes reincarnation against Stiv.

By the way, what even puts Stiverne above Chisora? If you deride Chisora, you also make a mockery of Wilder's resume. Chis KO'd one of Wilder's best opponents and would very arguably be superior to anyone Deontay's fought; Gerald 'terrified of Big Baby' Washington, shot Arreola, Arreola 1 round victim Molina, Chisora victim Malik Scott, Euro gatekeeper Duhaupas, Szpilka, Stiverne.....not much quality, is there? I mean, after nearly 10 years and 40 fights his best opponent is Stiverne

Pretty funny that some posters have declared their support for Wilder because they think the poor guy gets it too tough. War Wilder and mediocre fights!!!

wilder seemingly not wanting to fight Whyte is laughable. How many more corpses do they have to dredge up for this guy.

Impractical Poster wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote: Stiverne is a better opponent than Whyte.

Says who?

What makes Whyte a more credible opponent than Stiverne? A SD win over Chisora?

I think nobody in the top 25 of the WBC would lose against Stiverne lol. Especially not Chisora.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:
Says who?

What makes Whyte a more credible opponent than Stiverne? A SD win over Chisora?

when he's up against someone who's best win is a shopworn Chris Arreola, yes.

Maybe there isn't much in it. I don't see much to suggest Stiverne is better.

Stiverne has better wins than Whyte.

Stiverne had also lost to and drawn with journeymen, and he looked worse in getting his head jabbed off against old Austin than I've ever seen Whyte look. This is who you're talking about when it comes to the top guy Wilder has fought in 10 years pro.

Even if we take your word that Stiverne was a better opponent, Whyte would be the next best out of nearly 40 opponents.

Each to there own, but if the fight was made tomorrow I'd take whyte over strivene

So would I

Impractical Poster wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote: What makes Whyte a more credible opponent than Stiverne? A SD win over Chisora?

when he's up against someone who's best win is a shopworn Chris Arreola, yes.

Maybe there isn't much in it. I don't see much to suggest Stiverne is better.

Stiverne has better wins than Whyte.

When? Who?

gp. wrote:

danconnollyeire wrote:Whyte has massive massive balls. He walked straight through AJ's shots for 6 rounds. He won't be afraid of Wilder which will cause him issues

Which will cause who issues? I can see that working both ways.

Yes both but it's something Whyte has dealt with before. Wilder has never had someone constantly walk forward and say 'is that all you've got'