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Jip wrote:In terms of trash talking it s 1:1

Conor owned Toronto. Floyd was clueless. Loved it when Conor saif fu:&(; you to the showtime boss. What a epic press con

Out of interest, would you not grow weary of hearing so much trash-talking if nearly all boxers emulated the Mayweather-McGregor style of promotion when they try to sell their own bouts?

For me, all these trash-talking Mayweather-McGregor promotional antics are a bit like a grown-up version of the WWE, with all the silly monologues containing swear words, coupled with there being a heel and a face for the crowd to boo or cheer.

Unfortunately for me, I’ve gone through puberty, so the WWE stuff doesn’t interest me anymore.

What I saw in Los Angeles felt a bit forced, but Toronto took it to another level… and I am becoming a bit frustrated at watching this spectacle.

Perhaps I’m too old and grumpy to tolerate such silly nonsense búllshít!

It amazes me that anyone is interested in this sh!t.

Scoring who is winning the press conferences is taking pointless to a new level!

As for EOs question about trash talking publicity tours and WWE etc, for me it very much depends who is doing it. Mcgregor is just about as good a talker for a fighter of my era. Maybe the best. I appreciate that is entirely subjective, but watching a mcgregor press conference is priceless. I am thoroughly going to enjoy watching him tear Mayweather a new one on the build up to the fight, as the fight will be a complete borefest. Mayweathers classless annoying personality will be grating to watch, but hopefully mcgregor can show him up.

Tanzio wrote:It amazes me that anyone is interested in this sh!t.

Floyd vs anyone - not interesting

Mcgregor - interesting

It's all about McGregor these press conferences for me. Fight world should appreciate this guy, he is true box office

Enlightened-One wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: I don’t know whether Floyd is a “clean” athlete or not, but since he was one of the very first high-profile boxers that insisted that his opponents and himself were drug tested for their bouts (he was even initially lambasted for having the sheer audacity to demand this contractual stipulation for his fights, then I highly-doubt it.

In regards, to Floyd Mayweather Jr. being “ripped”, Money May has always kept himself in good shape and I also suspect that he knew about the Conor McGregor bout several months prior to it being officially announced.

I believe that he would have already been seriously training for his upcoming bout against the UFC star before it was “officially” announced, because the announcement of the fight was probably intentionally delayed and strategically timed in a manner with Showtime’s sole intention to damage the commercial success of HBO's Kovalev-Ward, Cotto-Kamegai and GGG-Canelo contests.

There's definitely something shady about him. Especially considering he was allowed to take an "IV" for hydration when he never drains himself to make weight. Demanding drug testing doesn't mean much considering Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones never was caught by any test.

Thomas Hauser’s article that was originally responsible for the alleged “intravenous vitamin injections” Money May scandal was published during the fight-week of the Mayweather-Berto bout... a strategially-timed ploy employed by HBO to undermine the commercial success of a Showtime PPV event.

It is important to note that Thomas Hauser went from being a renowned critic of HBO’s when he was an independent journalist to becoming employed as one of their journalists/consultants.

Now that he's employed by HBO, he now refrains from publishing any articles that damage his employers' reputation. Indeed, he now has a track-record of releasing editorials that are strategically-published to damage the reputations of the high-profile people that are affiliated to Showtime.

Many of his claims about the “intravenous vitamin injections” Money May scandal have been subsequently proven to be unsubstantiated, with most of the allegations mainly based on anonymous sources.

Hauser made similar claims about Al Haymon that were also subsequently debunked during the Golden Boy-Haymon “Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act” trail.

It’s your prerogative to believe your own opinion to be true, despite all the facts and the evidence suggesting a polar opposite version of the truth, so I’ll let you continue making your bogus, fictional and comedic claims.

EO, there's still smoke out there about Floyd taking an illegal IV. You are not claiming that it didn't happen right? Floyd was found to have taken an IV prior to the Manny fight that was not approved by anyone. I've not read that anyone was successful at disproving that it happened. There may be some legitimate debate whether Floyd had approval or not but for someone that has been so demanding and righteous on the matter, it's certainly calls Floyd's integrity to the carpet either way. Especially after denying Manny and his team the Toradol shot after incurring an injured shoulder during training camp. I know that Floyd didn't reach out to Manny about the IV. Sketchy either way.

EO, 40 year old boxers do not look like Floyd. Sure, people take care of themselves and some people cheat father time but not like Floyd. We've all lived through the steroid age and we can now tell who must have done what...i mean, just look at Floyd's head size. He's got Barry Bonds head growth. Look at Floyd's fight with Berto...Floyd was absolutely shredded and that's not the obvious part. Floyd put on a clinic that night and got stronger as the night went on. At no point was Floyd huffing and puffing. THAT does not happen to a 40 year old boxer. It's not possible, i'm sorry.

A good example is watching GGG's career right now. This is how a fighter gets old legitimately. Everyone has seen GGG slow down in recent fights. We know he's clean because of the extensive testing he does prior to fights. Don't tell me that Floyd works harder than GGG. Sorry, i'm not believing that. Floyd may outwork GGG but it's not by much if any. GGG at age 40 is going to be a shell of his former self and that's real life.

I'm singling out Floyd here but you can say it with most of the top fighters in the era, Manny included. I think that they all juiced at one point or another. But I just think that Floyd never stopped juicing. He couldn't afford to slip at all with all that money riding on his success. Floyd controlled all matters of negotiations so who's going to nab him in the act? No one. He had the perfect stage to pull every advantage he could....he's proved that with the judges for his fights, the place he fights, the refs for his fights, the gloves for his fights....what makes you think that he wouldn't take measures to tilt the playing field more in his advantage with PEDS? It's way too obvious to me. Floyd should have just walked away because I think that someone is going to figure it out with this fight.

Ossyrules wrote:

Tanzio wrote:It amazes me that anyone is interested in this sh!t.

Floyd vs anyone - not interesting

Mcgregor - interesting

It's all about McGregor these press conferences for me. Fight world should appreciate this guy, he is true box office

I like McGregor, and I hope that he starches FMJ, but I have no interest in spending one minute on this hype or the fight. If McGregor pulls it off I will watch it after the fact.

We have Berchelt v Miura, Smith v Barrera, and Eubank v Abraham this weekend and the majority of interest is on what the participants in a circus act are saying on a press tour.

Ridiculous.

Tanzio wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Tanzio wrote:It amazes me that anyone is interested in this sh!t.

Floyd vs anyone - not interesting

Mcgregor - interesting

It's all about McGregor these press conferences for me. Fight world should appreciate this guy, he is true box office

I like McGregor, and I hope that he starches FMJ, but I have no interest in spending one minute on this hype or the fight. If McGregor pulls it off I will watch it after the fact.

We have Berchelt v Miura, Smith v Barrera, and Eubank v Abraham this weekend and the majority of interest is on what the participants in a circus act are saying on a press tour.

Ridiculous.

I'm not interested in the fight, but I can't not watch mcgregor with the mic

I am interested in 2 out of the 3 fights you mention. However smith vs Barrera isn't getting any promotion in England so it's hard to get too excited, and eubank jr is like the opposite of McGregor, he's like repellent to popularity when he's speaking. But he can fight so I'll catch that fight too

caldo2025 wrote:EO, there's still smoke out there about Floyd taking an illegal IV. You are not claiming that it didn't happen right? Floyd was found to have taken an IV prior to the Manny fight that was not approved by anyone.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. took the intravenous vitamin injection in front of a representative from USADA when it was administered in his home.

However, USADA did not formally issue a therapeutic use exception to Mayweather for the IVs until almost three weeks after the contest.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. did not break any rules of USADA or the NSAC. Multiple investigations were carried out and Money May's name was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing.

Thomas Hauser's allegations that were supplied by unamed sources were subsequently proven to be untrue.

I personally cannot respect anyone that automatically assumes guilt on the basis of the “there’s no smoke without fire” way of thinking, especially when multiple investigations have been carried out and the individual that was the subject of multiple unfair allegations was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing.

Did you check the timing of the release of the HBO employee's (Thomas Hauser) article about the IV injections? What did you think of that?

My god, there's so much hatread for Mayweather, are you hardcore boxing fans really supporting McGregor, who's disrespecting boxing. Personally I think Floyd's a funny c%$t, McGreggor just swears and is loudly aggressive, I like my humour a little more subtle and clever. Fair enough all the talk, but are you hoping he wins, because if he wins, i can't even imagine how bad that is for boxing, sure May Pac was bad but this will turn off millions of children to the "inferior combat of boxing" when we know its superior MMA Jack of all trades master of none. Mayweather better knock him out.

Floyd should give McGregor the beating of his life ... hurt him ... damage him ...

... beat him so bad that he never fights again ...

... as a lesson to all MMA scum that they should never ... ever ... pretend to be "fighters" ...

... ('cause they ain't ... they're punks) ...

Sequitorian wrote:Floyd should give McGregor the beating of his life ... hurt him ... damage him ...

... beat him so bad that he never fights again ...

... as a lesson to all MMA scum that they should never ... ever ... pretend to be "fighters" ...

... ('cause they ain't ... they're punks) ...

LOL! This is funny but they are not punks. They are tough, fit boys, sure they're roided too. End of the day boxing is just better, so much sweeter to watch then, 2 mins of crap level striking then 3 minutes of rolling around on the floor. But yes Floyd needs to put a hurting on him and his mouth.

lazboy wrote:

Sequitorian wrote:Floyd should give McGregor the beating of his life ... hurt him ... damage him ...

... beat him so bad that he never fights again ...

... as a lesson to all MMA scum that they should never ... ever ... pretend to be "fighters" ...

... ('cause they ain't ... they're punks) ...

LOL! This is funny but they are not punks. They are tough, fit boys, sure they're roided too. End of the day boxing is just better, so much sweeter to watch then, 2 mins of crap level striking then 3 minutes of rolling around on the floor. But yes Floyd needs to put a hurting on him and his mouth.

Probably more roids in boxing than in the UFC atm.

MMA is a legitimate sport. They are true fighters. Not sure what makes sequitorian refer to them as pretend fighters. Conor would destroy Floyd is less than a minute if it was a street fight, so yeah. Floyd is gunna "tax that ass" in the boxing ring though. But, that doesn't make Conor a pretend fighter. You guys are silly.

Enlightened-One wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:EO, there's still smoke out there about Floyd taking an illegal IV. You are not claiming that it didn't happen right? Floyd was found to have taken an IV prior to the Manny fight that was not approved by anyone.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. took the intravenous vitamin injection in front of a representative from USADA when it was administered in his home.

However, USADA did not formally issue a therapeutic use exception to Mayweather for the IVs until almost three weeks after the contest.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. did not break any rules of USADA or the NSAC. Multiple investigations were carried out and Money May's name was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing.

Thomas Hauser's allegations that were supplied by unamed sources were subsequently proven to be untrue.

I personally cannot respect anyone that automatically assumes guilt on the basis of the “there’s no smoke without fire” way of thinking, especially when multiple investigations have been carried out and the individual that was the subject of multiple unfair allegations was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing.

Did you check the timing of the release of the HBO employee's (Thomas Hauser) article about the IV injections? What did you think of that?

The million dollar question that no one ever answers is why would Floyd need an IV in the first place?

IKSRTFO wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:EO, there's still smoke out there about Floyd taking an illegal IV. You are not claiming that it didn't happen right? Floyd was found to have taken an IV prior to the Manny fight that was not approved by anyone.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. took the intravenous vitamin injection in front of a representative from USADA when it was administered in his home.

However, USADA did not formally issue a therapeutic use exception to Mayweather for the IVs until almost three weeks after the contest.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. did not break any rules of USADA or the NSAC. Multiple investigations were carried out and Money May's name was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing.

Thomas Hauser's allegations that were supplied by unamed sources were subsequently proven to be untrue.

I personally cannot respect anyone that automatically assumes guilt on the basis of the “there’s no smoke without fire” way of thinking, especially when multiple investigations have been carried out and the individual that was the subject of multiple unfair allegations was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing.

Did you check the timing of the release of the HBO employee's (Thomas Hauser) article about the IV injections? What did you think of that?

The million dollar question that no one ever answers is why would Floyd need an IV in the first place?

And if he needs it, he's appearantly so sick, it would be ridiculous to let him fight, let alone let him fight the fight of his life, it would be very dangerous.

IKSRTFO wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:EO, there's still smoke out there about Floyd taking an illegal IV. You are not claiming that it didn't happen right? Floyd was found to have taken an IV prior to the Manny fight that was not approved by anyone.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. took the intravenous vitamin injection in front of a representative from USADA when it was administered in his home.

However, USADA did not formally issue a therapeutic use exception to Mayweather for the IVs until almost three weeks after the contest.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. did not break any rules of USADA or the NSAC. Multiple investigations were carried out and Money May's name was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing.

Thomas Hauser's allegations that were supplied by unamed sources were subsequently proven to be untrue.

I personally cannot respect anyone that automatically assumes guilt on the basis of the “there’s no smoke without fire” way of thinking, especially when multiple investigations have been carried out and the individual that was the subject of multiple unfair allegations was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing.

Did you check the timing of the release of the HBO employee's (Thomas Hauser) article about the IV injections? What did you think of that?

The million dollar question that no one ever answers is why would Floyd need an IV in the first place?

This is not a “million dollar” question and it has already been answered multiple times.

Intravenous vitamin injections are used for recuperation and recovery reasons. The vitamin ingredients of the injection are not of themselves prohibited.

Floyd was transparent when he took these injections in front of a USADA official.

Multiple investigations were carried out and he was subsequently proved innocent of any wrongdoing by WADA, VADA & the NSAC.

Anyone that believes that it is correct to use the “there’s no smoke without fire” justice system as their sole justification to assume someone’s guilt, despite the fact that multiple independent investigations has subsequently cleared Money May of any wrongdoing, are fúckíng túrds!

Enlightened-One wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: Floyd Mayweather Jr. took the intravenous vitamin injection in front of a representative from USADA when it was administered in his home.

However, USADA did not formally issue a therapeutic use exception to Mayweather for the IVs until almost three weeks after the contest.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. did not break any rules of USADA or the NSAC. Multiple investigations were carried out and Money May's name was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing.

Thomas Hauser's allegations that were supplied by unamed sources were subsequently proven to be untrue.

I personally cannot respect anyone that automatically assumes guilt on the basis of the “there’s no smoke without fire” way of thinking, especially when multiple investigations have been carried out and the individual that was the subject of multiple unfair allegations was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing.

Did you check the timing of the release of the HBO employee's (Thomas Hauser) article about the IV injections? What did you think of that?

The million dollar question that no one ever answers is why would Floyd need an IV in the first place?

This is not a “million dollar” question and it has already been answered multiple times.

Intravenous vitamin injections are used for recuperation and recovery reasons. The vitamin ingredients of the injection are not of themselves prohibited.

Floyd was transparent when he took these injections in front of a USADA official.

Multiple investigations were carried out and he was subsequently proved innocent of any wrongdoing by WADA, VADA & the NSAC.

Anyone that believes that it is correct to use the “there’s no smoke without fire” justice system as their sole justification to assume someone’s guilt, despite the fact that multiple independent investigations has subsequently cleared Money May of any wrongdoing, are fúckíng túrds!

Recuperation and recovery from what? Fighters usually don't train the day before a fight. And he doesn't have to make weight.

IKSRTFO wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:
The million dollar question that no one ever answers is why would Floyd need an IV in the first place?

This is not a “million dollar” question and it has already been answered multiple times.

Intravenous vitamin injections are used for recuperation and recovery reasons. The vitamin ingredients of the injection are not of themselves prohibited.

Floyd was transparent when he took these injections in front of a USADA official.

Multiple investigations were carried out and he was subsequently proved innocent of any wrongdoing by WADA, VADA & the NSAC.

Anyone that believes that it is correct to use the “there’s no smoke without fire” justice system as their sole justification to assume someone’s guilt, despite the fact that multiple independent investigations has subsequently cleared Money May of any wrongdoing, are fúckíng túrds!

Recuperation and recovery from what? Fighters usually don't train the day before a fight. And he doesn't have to make weight.

Multiple investigations were carried out and Floyd was subsequently proved innocent of any wrongdoing by WADA, VADA & the NSAC.

You should write a letter to WADA, VADA & the NSAC... and ask them to explain the situation.

In the meantime, assume that Money May is innocent of any wrongdoing, since that is what has happened in the real-world.

Enlightened-One wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: Floyd Mayweather Jr. took the intravenous vitamin injection in front of a representative from USADA when it was administered in his home.

However, USADA did not formally issue a therapeutic use exception to Mayweather for the IVs until almost three weeks after the contest.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. did not break any rules of USADA or the NSAC. Multiple investigations were carried out and Money May's name was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing.

Thomas Hauser's allegations that were supplied by unamed sources were subsequently proven to be untrue.

I personally cannot respect anyone that automatically assumes guilt on the basis of the “there’s no smoke without fire” way of thinking, especially when multiple investigations have been carried out and the individual that was the subject of multiple unfair allegations was subsequently cleared of any wrongdoing.

Did you check the timing of the release of the HBO employee's (Thomas Hauser) article about the IV injections? What did you think of that?

The million dollar question that no one ever answers is why would Floyd need an IV in the first place?

This is not a “million dollar” question and it has already been answered multiple times.

Intravenous vitamin injections are used for recuperation and recovery reasons. The vitamin ingredients of the injection are not of themselves prohibited.

Floyd was transparent when he took these injections in front of a USADA official.

Multiple investigations were carried out and he was subsequently proved innocent of any wrongdoing by WADA, VADA & the NSAC.

Anyone that believes that it is correct to use the “there’s no smoke without fire” justice system as their sole justification to assume someone’s guilt, despite the fact that multiple independent investigations has subsequently cleared Money May of any wrongdoing, are fúckíng túrds!

It's not all that different in kind from insinuating that the whole matter was an HBO conspiracy.

squiggy wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:
The million dollar question that no one ever answers is why would Floyd need an IV in the first place?

This is not a “million dollar” question and it has already been answered multiple times.

Intravenous vitamin injections are used for recuperation and recovery reasons. The vitamin ingredients of the injection are not of themselves prohibited.

Floyd was transparent when he took these injections in front of a USADA official.

Multiple investigations were carried out and he was subsequently proved innocent of any wrongdoing by WADA, VADA & the NSAC.

Anyone that believes that it is correct to use the “there’s no smoke without fire” justice system as their sole justification to assume someone’s guilt, despite the fact that multiple independent investigations has subsequently cleared Money May of any wrongdoing, are fúckíng túrds!

It's not all that different in kind from insinuating that the whole matter was an HBO conspiracy.

What you’ve written is a complete load of bóllócks! The situations are completely different!

People that are affiliated to HBO, such as Thomas Hauser and Oscar De La Hoya, have a proven track record of trying to overshadow Floyd Mayweather PPV's during fight-week by announcing/publishing something controversial... or aimed at stealing the limelight.

I have proved this multiple times. If you tried to verify this by performing your own research into the matter, you'd concur with my conclusions.

In regards to the Money May IV situation, multiple investigations were carried out and he was subsequently proved innocent of any wrongdoing by WADA, VADA & the NSAC.

As I've already stated... anyone that believes that it is correct to use the “there’s no smoke without fire” justice system as their sole justification to assume someone’s guilt, despite the fact that multiple independent investigations has subsequently cleared Money May of any wrongdoing, are fúckíng túrds!

Ossyrules wrote:

Tanzio wrote:It amazes me that anyone is interested in this sh!t.

Floyd vs anyone - not interesting

Mcgregor - interesting

It's all about McGregor these press conferences for me. Fight world should appreciate this guy, he is true box office

I'm extremely interested in the preseeres, not at all interested in the fight. These are the first press conferences televised on TV during my lifetime.

Enlightened-One wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: This is not a “million dollar” question and it has already been answered multiple times.

Intravenous vitamin injections are used for recuperation and recovery reasons. The vitamin ingredients of the injection are not of themselves prohibited.

Floyd was transparent when he took these injections in front of a USADA official.

Multiple investigations were carried out and he was subsequently proved innocent of any wrongdoing by WADA, VADA & the NSAC.

Anyone that believes that it is correct to use the “there’s no smoke without fire” justice system as their sole justification to assume someone’s guilt, despite the fact that multiple independent investigations has subsequently cleared Money May of any wrongdoing, are fúckíng túrds!

Recuperation and recovery from what? Fighters usually don't train the day before a fight. And he doesn't have to make weight.

Multiple investigations were carried out and Floyd was subsequently proved innocent of any wrongdoing by WADA, VADA & the NSAC.

You should write a letter to WADA, VADA & the NSAC... and ask them to explain the situation.

In the meantime, assume that Money May is innocent of any wrongdoing, since that is what has happened in the real-world.

So was Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones. Neither of them were physically proven by the commissions to be juicing as neither failed tests but they were both found guilty.

IKSRTFO wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:
Recuperation and recovery from what? Fighters usually don't train the day before a fight. And he doesn't have to make weight.

Multiple investigations were carried out and Floyd was subsequently proved innocent of any wrongdoing by WADA, VADA & the NSAC.

You should write a letter to WADA, VADA & the NSAC... and ask them to explain the situation.

In the meantime, assume that Money May is innocent of any wrongdoing, since that is what has happened in the real-world.

So was Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones. Neither of them were physically proven by the commissions to be juicing as neither failed tests but they were both found guilty.

So you’re a believer in the “there’s no smoke without fire” justice system?

So you would prefer to believe someone’s guilt despite there being a complete absence of evidence?

So you would wouldn’t be bothered if you were personally found guilty of a crime that resulted in imprisonment using the “there’s no smoke without fire” justice system?

Enlightened-One wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: Multiple investigations were carried out and Floyd was subsequently proved innocent of any wrongdoing by WADA, VADA & the NSAC.

You should write a letter to WADA, VADA & the NSAC... and ask them to explain the situation.

In the meantime, assume that Money May is innocent of any wrongdoing, since that is what has happened in the real-world.

So was Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones. Neither of them were physically proven by the commissions to be juicing as neither failed tests but they were both found guilty.

So you’re a believer in the “there’s no smoke without fire” justice system?

So you would prefer to believe someone’s guilt despite there being a complete absence of evidence?

So you would wouldn’t be bothered if you were personally found guilty of a crime that resulted in imprisonment using the “there’s no smoke without fire” justice system?

Where there's smoke, there is fire. There is zero reason for Floyd who doesn't even lose weight to weigh in to use an IV.

IKSRTFO wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:
So was Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones. Neither of them were physically proven by the commissions to be juicing as neither failed tests but they were both found guilty.

So you’re a believer in the “there’s no smoke without fire” justice system?

So you would prefer to believe someone’s guilt despite there being a complete absence of evidence?

So you would wouldn’t be bothered if you were personally found guilty of a crime that resulted in imprisonment using the “there’s no smoke without fire” justice system?

Where there's smoke, there is fire. There is zero reason for Floyd who doesn't even lose weight to weigh in to use an IV.

Are you a medical professional?

Don't you think that this question wouldn't have already been asked during the investigations performed by WADA, VADA & the NSAC?

Don't you think that the USADA official that attended the doctor-approved/administered intravenous vitamin injection would have already established the medical justification for such treatment prior to authorising it?

Were you privy to the entire set of documentation that was produced as a direct result of the investigations performed by VADA, WADA & USADA?

You’re essentially admitting to knowing fornicate all about the situation, but you’re utterly convinced about Floyd Mayweather Jr’s guilt in relation to this matter, even though there’s not a human being on this planet that is capable of substantiating your derogatory accusation?

So you would prefer to believe someone’s guilt despite there being a complete absence of evidence?

Organization no mater vada schnada or dada can make mistake or can be corrupt. Lance Armstrong won 7 tdf or more, got tested by high anti doping organization. And what happened during 7 years or more lance was taking his drugs? Nothing happened.

Floyd same as Lance was a big time money cow. Was he or lance protected and organizations closed eyes on some things in which they would not close an eye for regular joe? Absolutly!