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You cannot properly evaluate power from watching on tape. The most reliable source are mid level sparring partners who have been in several camps. These fighters usually say Wilder, Wlad and Joshua can bang. Nearly everyone who has been in with Wilder says he has scary power in both hands.

ValMar wrote:

Kalan wrote:Heavyweights punch the hardest of any weight division...

1. Joshua... 2. Ortiz... 3. Wilder... 4. Klitschko... 5. Parker... 6. Haye... 7. Povetkin... 8. Miller... 9. Breazeale... 10. Ugonoh

Decent list.....

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:

Kalan wrote:Heavyweights punch the hardest of any weight division...

1. Joshua... 2. Ortiz... 3. Wilder... 4. Klitschko... 5. Parker... 6. Haye... 7. Povetkin... 8. Miller... 9. Breazeale... 10. Ugonoh

Decent list.....

Can you make the better list ? No, you can not !

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:
Decent list.....

Can you make the better list ? No, you can not !

Elite power - Wlad, Joshua, Haye (maybe not now he's lost speed), wilder, Price

Strong power - Ortiz, Povetkin, mansour, pulev, Browne, Parker

Domestic/fringe power - Whyte, Chisora, Fury (possibly can punch harder but his fighting style is not to load up), breazeale

Weak power - Scott, Allen

Some will punch harder than others in categories but it really is foolish to make a top ten and believe your rankings are accurate

gp. wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:Wilder and Klitschko have 10/10 power.

AJ is up there. Helenius hits really hard, but he's a bit too slow. If he were faster he'd be the hardest puncher today.

Ortiz isn't even sniffing 10/10 power. Povetkin's new found old man strength hits harder than Ortiz.

Depends entirely on your definition of "10/10 punching power", doesn't it.

Are there multiple definitions?

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:
Decent list.....

Can you make the better list ? No, you can not !

Any list with Ortiz ahead of Wilder is garbage.

punchoutsb wrote:

gp. wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:Wilder and Klitschko have 10/10 power.

AJ is up there. Helenius hits really hard, but he's a bit too slow. If he were faster he'd be the hardest puncher today.

Ortiz isn't even sniffing 10/10 power. Povetkin's new found old man strength hits harder than Ortiz.

Depends entirely on your definition of "10/10 punching power", doesn't it.

Are there multiple definitions?

Of course there are.

gp. wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

gp. wrote:

Depends entirely on your definition of "10/10 punching power", doesn't it.

Are there multiple definitions?

Of course there are.

I can think of two: all time or current. Considering he said current, I'd say that's pretty black and white. Either way, my post wouldn't change much.

punchoutsb wrote:

gp. wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:
Are there multiple definitions?

Of course there are.

I can think of two: all time or current. Considering he said current, I'd say that's pretty black and white. Either way, my post wouldn't change much.

We've been through all this already, but he definition of 10/10 simply depends on where you draw the line where someone goes from 9/10 to 10/10. It could be 10% of all boxers, it could be 1% of heavyweight boxers. if it's the former then Ortiz easily qualifies. If its the latter, he doesn't. "10/10" is an arbitrary evaluation.

gp. wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

gp. wrote:
Of course there are.

I can think of two: all time or current. Considering he said current, I'd say that's pretty black and white. Either way, my post wouldn't change much.

We've been through all this already, but he definition of 10/10 simply depends on where you draw the line where someone goes from 9/10 to 10/10. It could be 10% of all boxers, it could be 1% of heavyweight boxers. if it's the former then Ortiz easily qualifies. If its the latter, he doesn't. "10/10" is an arbitrary evaluation.

Luis Ortiz power pales in comparison to Wlad and Wilder. Is that better?

punchoutsb wrote:

gp. wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:
I can think of two: all time or current. Considering he said current, I'd say that's pretty black and white. Either way, my post wouldn't change much.

We've been through all this already, but he definition of 10/10 simply depends on where you draw the line where someone goes from 9/10 to 10/10. It could be 10% of all boxers, it could be 1% of heavyweight boxers. if it's the former then Ortiz easily qualifies. If its the latter, he doesn't. "10/10" is an arbitrary evaluation.

Luis Ortiz power pales in comparison to Wlad and Wilder. Is that better?

Yes, much better. I can't argue with that.

Dmitry Kudryashov gets 10/10 p4p

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:
Decent list.....

Can you make the better list ? No, you can not !

Klitschko, Joshua, Wilder, Haye, Povetkin, Ortiz, Parker, Price, Browne, Helenius, Miller.

Then the rest....

Loki wrote:

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Can you make the better list ? No, you can not !

Klitschko, Joshua, Wilder, Haye, Povetkin, Ortiz, Parker, Price, Browne, Helenius, Miller.

Then the rest....

I have not put Helenius in the opening post, he deserves to be on the list, but I am not sure about his status (active or not).
For me, Povetkin is a borderline case (9/10), Browne and Miller too, I have mentioned recently Briggs and Ustinov. Breazeale is questionable, honestly, I do not know a lot about him, but he could be something like Povetkin....
I can not agree about Parker, for me he is nothing more than a decent puncher (8/10), Martin and Whyte, too.....
I have forgotten some fighters, surely.....

ValMar wrote:

Loki wrote:

ValMar wrote: Can you make the better list ? No, you can not !

Klitschko, Joshua, Wilder, Haye, Povetkin, Ortiz, Parker, Price, Browne, Helenius, Miller.

Then the rest....

I have not put Helenius in the opening post, he deserves to be on the list, but I am not sure about his status (active or not).
For me, Povetkin is a borderline case (9/10), Browne and Miller too, I have mentioned recently Briggs and Ustinov. Breazeale is questionable, honestly, I do not know a lot about him, but he could be something like Povetkin....
I can not agree about Parker, for me he is nothing more than a decent puncher (8/10), Martin and Whyte, too.....
I have forgotten some fighters, surely.....

10/10 - Klitschko, AJ and Wilder. But, Deontay swings and the others throw darts.

Parker is the only unknown quantity. Looked deverstating against lesser opponents but hasn't shown much since stepping up.

I like my list, Parker is the one I'd move down. Briggs hit a lot harder years ago and Ustinov is just heavy handed from sheer size; similar to Miller.

Loki wrote:

ValMar wrote:

Loki wrote:
Klitschko, Joshua, Wilder, Haye, Povetkin, Ortiz, Parker, Price, Browne, Helenius, Miller.

Then the rest....

I have not put Helenius in the opening post, he deserves to be on the list, but I am not sure about his status (active or not).
For me, Povetkin is a borderline case (9/10), Browne and Miller too, I have mentioned recently Briggs and Ustinov. Breazeale is questionable, honestly, I do not know a lot about him, but he could be something like Povetkin....
I can not agree about Parker, for me he is nothing more than a decent puncher (8/10), Martin and Whyte, too.....
I have forgotten some fighters, surely.....

10/10 - Klitschko, AJ and Wilder. But, Deontay swings and the others throw darts.

Parker is the only unknown quantity. Looked deverstating against lesser opponents but hasn't shown much since stepping up.

I like my list, Parker is the one I'd move down. Briggs hit a lot harder years ago and Ustinov is just heavy handed from sheer size; similar to Miller.

Honestly, it is very difficult disagree with your list....But, there are several haters on this forum, and they will be contra........