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Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 17:45
by pimp
Coco wrote:Shane has a limited portfolio as a trainer, Frampton was gifted to him and made him look good, who else?
Flintoff and Haye!


Spot on

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 08:22
by sweetscience
confirmed by Frampton on twitter

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 08:48
by bripez
sweetscience wrote:confirmed by Frampton on twitter
I have just seen that - it makes recent events look even more suspicious.

Not that the opponent fell over in the shower (which was a bit of luck for Frampton), but the fact that he missed the weight by so much - Frampton always struck me as the type of meticulous character that would not miss a weight - a bit like a Quigg type, obsessive.

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 09:07
by Manchester Hitman
Carl has to go with Hearn /Sky it's just common sense. Al Haymon is all but finished-PBC hasn't really worked and the money and big fights have all but dried up.

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 09:10
by afcmarshall

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 09:12
by cocka09
Happy days! Carl has been the bread winner for the McGuigan family for too long. Shane and Barry to be on a building site by the end of September :OhYes:

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 09:27
by ozzy1875
Manchester Hitman wrote:Carl has to go with Hearn /Sky it's just common sense. Al Haymon is all but finished-PBC hasn't really worked and the money and big fights have all but dried up.
Frampton doesn't like Hearn, simple as. He either goes to America with Haymon or, he becomes BT's poster boy, something that there is a possibility for.

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 09:51
by ElJefe
Any word on whether he'll stick with Shane or train with someone else? Can't help but think that relationship would be slightly awkward given how close they all seemed to be.

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 11:59
by Manchester Hitman
ozzy1875 wrote:
Manchester Hitman wrote:Carl has to go with Hearn /Sky it's just common sense. Al Haymon is all but finished-PBC hasn't really worked and the money and big fights have all but dried up.
Frampton doesn't like Hearn, simple as. He either goes to America with Haymon or, he becomes BT's poster boy, something that there is a possibility for.
I very much doubt Carl really dislikes Hearn- there was no real reason to from what I remember. To me, he was just following suit with the Mcguigans- all 10 of them involved in his affairs. Carl to me looks like he just wants stone cold cash for the remainder of his career - no messing about. Eddie and sky fit the bill.

In regards Haymon, your forgetting Al isn't a promoter so Carl would still need one of them. I don't think he would fit in that well with TMT..! maybe Di Bella but it just doesn't make any sense to me. BT..don't see the point signing with frank certainly not ahead Of Hearn on this particular occasion.

We'll see what happens

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 12:09
by Nightmare Roy
ozzy1875 wrote:
Manchester Hitman wrote:Carl has to go with Hearn /Sky it's just common sense. Al Haymon is all but finished-PBC hasn't really worked and the money and big fights have all but dried up.
Frampton doesn't like Hearn, simple as. He either goes to America with Haymon or, he becomes BT's poster boy, something that there is a possibility for.
He's a smart guy, like doesn't come into business you "Earn with Hearn" ;-)

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 12:30
by Noxy
Coco wrote:Shane has a limited portfolio as a trainer, Frampton was gifted to him and made him look good, who else?
Flintoff and Haye!
Shane has a good record as a trainer. He just hasn't been doing it that long.

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 13:07
by 3132DW
ozzy1875 wrote:
Manchester Hitman wrote:Carl has to go with Hearn /Sky it's just common sense. Al Haymon is all but finished-PBC hasn't really worked and the money and big fights have all but dried up.
Frampton doesn't like Hearn, simple as. He either goes to America with Haymon or, he becomes BT's poster boy, something that there is a possibility for.
You don't need to like someone - bottom line is if he can put an outdoor PPV on at Windsor Park - Frampton/Burnett double head in front of 22,000 then he can be biggest prick in the World as long as he's paying you 1m.

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 13:10
by 3132DW
Manchester Hitman wrote:
ozzy1875 wrote:
Manchester Hitman wrote:Carl has to go with Hearn /Sky it's just common sense. Al Haymon is all but finished-PBC hasn't really worked and the money and big fights have all but dried up.
Frampton doesn't like Hearn, simple as. He either goes to America with Haymon or, he becomes BT's poster boy, something that there is a possibility for.
I very much doubt Carl really dislikes Hearn- there was no real reason to from what I remember. To me, he was just following suit with the Mcguigans- all 10 of them involved in his affairs. Carl to me looks like he just wants stone cold cash for the remainder of his career - no messing about. Eddie and sky fit the bill.

In regards Haymon, your forgetting Al isn't a promoter so Carl would still need one of them. I don't think he would fit in that well with TMT..! maybe Di Bella but it just doesn't make any sense to me. BT..don't see the point signing with frank certainly not ahead Of Hearn on this particular occasion.

We'll see what happens
That's what he's looking for - big paydays. Quigg slagged him about him earning more once everyone had took their cut of his purse - he was probably right.

They built themselves around his name and profile - he should have done this a long time ago.

There are guys inferior to Frampton with smaller fan bases probably getting more £ than him.

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 13:15
by Andrew
Personally think he hates Hearn

Remember when Hearn was going to have him fight on a Luke Campbell undercard in Hull

:lol:

I think it will be with Schaefer/Haye/ Ringstar

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 13:25
by Mimmy
Image

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 13:38
by Coco
And people on here poked fun at me when I smelt a rat after the last fight fell apart

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 13:53
by boxingknockout
Cyclone Promotions must be in serious trouble. Expensive premises (Battersea), a lot of people on payroll (prob inflated pay for family esp.)

I used to see the whole posse in Battersea a bit. Swaggering around in a big group. Looked like way too many heads for a small outfit.

The gym in Battersea must cost loads and is only used by pro fighters (who won't pay) and people doing one on ones.

I spoke to Shane once, he was very nice, even a bit shy. Barry wasn't very friendly when I said I wanted a photo for an Irish friend.

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 14:01
by crusader
So what happened to Gutierrez's chin then?

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 14:21
by Andrew
mimmy123 wrote:Image
Take my career into my own hands


This means it won't be with Hearn

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 14:27
by Tarkus
No way he goes back to Hearn. Hearn himself doesn't like working as Haymon stooge. And Carl is looking to create his own outfit. Ringstar/Ireland is about to be born.

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 15:19
by Noxy
boxingknockout wrote:Cyclone Promotions must be in serious trouble. Expensive premises (Battersea), a lot of people on payroll (prob inflated pay for family esp.)

I used to see the whole posse in Battersea a bit. Swaggering around in a big group. Looked like way too many heads for a small outfit.

The gym in Battersea must cost loads and is only used by pro fighters (who won't pay) and people doing one on ones.

I spoke to Shane once, he was very nice, even a bit shy. Barry wasn't very friendly when I said I wanted a photo for an Irish friend.
I've never met Barry but I went to see Carl against Molitor a few years back. Barry was there surrounded by a lot of fans and there was this young boy on the outside of the group. He looked starstruck but too shy to do much about it. Barry noticed him and made sure the lad got a photo with him before he went on his way. I was impressed by that. But I guess everyone has their bad days as well.

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 15:22
by 3132DW
Tarkus wrote:No way he goes back to Hearn. Hearn himself doesn't like working as Haymon stooge. And Carl is looking to create his own outfit. Ringstar/Ireland is about to be born.
You can have Ringstar/MTK etc - but without TV cash it's irrelevant for making big fights.

Dave isn't going to generate money for big fights.

Christ BT/BN couldn't even put on McDonnell/Butler.

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 18:13
by Tarkus
That is certainly true. But the way Schaefer is signing he must have a plan. Although I dont know what is it.

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 22 Aug 2017, 03:29
by BigDoofus
billy nelson wrote:Carl won't be going anywhere
I questioned this on the first page of the thread and questioned it on another forum when Nelson made the same claims. His arrogant response was




billy nelson said: ↑

Big Doofus right enough big idiot you ain't got a clue what's happening mate, stay tuned you will hear very soon

Re: Frampton split from McGuigan??

Posted: 22 Aug 2017, 03:54
by sweetscience
the silence said a 1000 words

it was abit obvious it was going to happen... regardless to what those in the 'know' knew