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dagilechia wrote:a question to people that wants McG to continue in boxing - who would you like to be his next opponent?

I could imagine a fight vs. Paul Malinaggi. It would be a credible matchup with Conor not being outclassed and you got a story behind it. Could generate moderate interest, no relevance obviously. But then again, which fight would be relevant?

If I could pick one, I'd probably take Pacman. Wouldn't be terribly competitive though.

dagilechia wrote:a question to people that wants McG to continue in boxing - who would you like to be his next opponent?

If he wanted to make a serious fist of boxing then i'd be interest in following what would be a short career (as he's nearly 30).

I'd like to see him face someone like Brian Rose or Frank Buglioni.

I'm not sure that would ever happen though, headlining a fairly standard British level card just wouldn't generate the same $ or interest as a being the main draw in a record breaking UFC title fight.

NateJR wrote:
But the elite guys at 147-160, Connor has no chance against any of them. He got walked down, beaten and battered by a semi-retired 40 year old man who weighed 20 lbs. less than him. Floyd still has some fight left in him, but it was obvious Floyd is a shell of his former self and not the same fighter he even was 2 years ago. I think Floyd is good enough to stay competitive with anyone at 147, but he's no longer the top dog.

Nailed it. Unfortunately some think Mcgregor deserves huge credit as it was his first boxing bout. I don't, it wasn't sold as a debut for a prospect, it was sold as an allegedly even contest. Which it wasn't. His boxing ability was non existent. His punches were feather fisted. A hungry professional boxer would go right through him.

Give me this Boxing match next...

Syntax Error wrote:If he does want to continue, he needs to start from the bottom & work up.

He's well versed in combat sport, so he should learn pretty quickly, but right now, he doesn't belong in the ring with world class, or even European class fighters.

If he does continue, I only want to see mega fights... even if they're against retired Boxers with a name.

And in 10-round bouts, f*ck it.

1 + 1 = 2

Since Conor is facing suspension in MMA...
+
And Oscar is willing to come out of retirement...
=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX2dGPikVmE



Right??

I really hope that is untrue

And I’m a big mcgregor fan

I don't think it generates enough money for Conor. It would be a fun fight, though I'd prefer McGregor/mayorga first.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑27 Aug 2017, 15:37 Guys that aren't even in the Top 40 could dominate Conor.

They wouldn't do crap to Conor... Because they can't box any better than he can and they're 1/10th the athlete.

He has to get a lot better but he can quickly because he's smart, fearless, and aggressive... I would definitely do the Paulie and De La Hoya fights.

Kalan wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 17:42

gilgamesh wrote: ↑27 Aug 2017, 15:37 Guys that aren't even in the Top 40 could dominate Conor.

They wouldn't do crap to Conor... Because they can't box any better than he can and they're 1/10th the athlete.

Conor would fight at middleweight cause he is way to big for 147 and at 154 there is no money to make. Aside from 147 160 is the money division in boxing.

160 is super strong, i would even go so farand say the division never looked stronger ever. He would have 0 chance against lemieaux, jacobs, ggg, canelo and charlo, who would all wreck him badly inside 1-4 rds.

What conor can do against a top 50 160 boxer. I dont know. But money wise it would make no sense.

p4p1 wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 18:47

Kalan wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 17:42

gilgamesh wrote: ↑27 Aug 2017, 15:37 Guys that aren't even in the Top 40 could dominate Conor.

They wouldn't do crap to Conor... Because they can't box any better than he can and they're 1/10th the athlete.

That's the appropriate response to that. I was being generous by making my comment Top 40. You could go back another 20 notches, and find guys that could kick Conor's ass in a Boxing ring.

Jip wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 18:58 Conor would fight at middleweight cause he is way to big for 147 and at 154 there is no money to make. Aside from 147 160 is the money division in boxing.

160 is super strong, i would even go so farand say the division never looked stronger ever. He would have 0 chance against lemieaux, jacobs, ggg, canelo and charlo, who would all wreck him badly inside 1-4 rds.

What conor can do against a top 50 160 boxer. I dont know. But money wise it would make no sense.

There has definitely been deeper Middleweight divisions in the past. The very best guys of the current era are solid, but there have been eras when the guys that were below the Top 10 could've whipped the likes of Lemieux and Jacobs. Particularly in Carlos Monzon's era, Hagler's era or the 1950's.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 19:51

Jip wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 18:58 Conor would fight at middleweight cause he is way to big for 147 and at 154 there is no money to make. Aside from 147 160 is the money division in boxing.

160 is super strong, i would even go so farand say the division never looked stronger ever. He would have 0 chance against lemieaux, jacobs, ggg, canelo and charlo, who would all wreck him badly inside 1-4 rds.

What conor can do against a top 50 160 boxer. I dont know. But money wise it would make no sense.

There has definitely been deeper Middleweight divisions in the past. The very best guys of the current era are solid, but there have been eras when the guys that were below the Top 10 could've whipped the likes of Lemieux and Jacobs. Particularly in Carlos Monzon's era, Hagler's era or the 1950's.

Monzons era was bad. He had few good opponents. Most opponents were average.

Haglers era was okay. Duran was old. Hearns obviously phenomenal. Leonard too. But aside from them most hagler opponents were c level.

GGG-one if the 3 best middleweight ever. Would beat hagler. Certainly punches harder.

Jacobs is tough. The version who fought ggg would beat barkley and hearns at 160. I am not saying jacibs a better than hearns. Hearns us better, but hearns was prime at 147-154, at 160 he would lose to the bigger jacobs, although close.

Canelo is great.

Charlo is young, but he is en route to become an atg. Power, athletiscm, strength, he got it all.

Trust me middleweight division never looked better.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 19:46

p4p1 wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 18:47

Kalan wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 17:42

They wouldn't do crap to Conor... Because they can't box any better than he can and they're 1/10th the athlete.

That's the appropriate response to that. I was being generous by making my comment Top 40. You could go back another 20 notches, and find guys that could kick Conor's ass in a Boxing ring.

I think he struggles at the British/Irish domestic level. He gets destroyed at the European level.

p4p1 wrote: ↑20 Nov 2017, 03:47

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 19:46

p4p1 wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 18:47

That's the appropriate response to that. I was being generous by making my comment Top 40. You could go back another 20 notches, and find guys that could kick Conor's ass in a Boxing ring.

I think he struggles at the British/Irish domestic level. He gets destroyed at the European level.

Yes the likes of Liam Williams or Liam Smith would outclass mcgregor. He has no business boxing top guys

Jip wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 20:15

Monzons era was bad. He had few good opponents. Most opponents were average.

Haglers era was okay. Duran was old. Hearns obviously phenomenal. Leonard too. But aside from them most hagler opponents were c level.

GGG-one if the 3 best middleweight ever. Would beat hagler. Certainly punches harder.

Jacobs is tough. The version who fought ggg would beat barkley and hearns at 160. I am not saying jacibs a better than hearns. Hearns us better, but hearns was prime at 147-154, at 160 he would lose to the bigger jacobs, although close.

Canelo is great.

Charlo is young, but he is en route to become an atg. Power, athletiscm, strength, he got it all.

Trust me middleweight division never looked better.

Yeah see I don't trust that, because I've actually studied Boxing history

p4p1 wrote: ↑20 Nov 2017, 03:47

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 19:46

p4p1 wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 18:47

That's the appropriate response to that. I was being generous by making my comment Top 40. You could go back another 20 notches, and find guys that could kick Conor's ass in a Boxing ring.

I think he struggles at the British/Irish domestic level. He gets destroyed at the European level.

You sound as naive as Max Kellerman and many others who boasted that McGregor would never land a punch on Floyd.. He landed more punches than Pacquiao landed on Floyd, the majority in the first 3 rounds.. He had 2 problems I predicted.. No endurance and a piss poor defense..

He was done by the 4th and looked weight drained.. He was a sucker for straight fright hands because his stance is messed up.. Obviously he would show up having done proper roadwork and would hire a real boxing coach if he he fought Oscar, Paulie, or did some other boxing match.. He's extremely competitive so he's not going to go clueless about all the mistakes he made. He'd be considerably better.

Kalan wrote: ↑20 Nov 2017, 17:37

p4p1 wrote: ↑20 Nov 2017, 03:47

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Nov 2017, 19:46

That's the appropriate response to that. I was being generous by making my comment Top 40. You could go back another 20 notches, and find guys that could kick Conor's ass in a Boxing ring.

I think he struggles at the British/Irish domestic level. He gets destroyed at the European level.

You sound as naive as Max Kellerman and many others who boasted that McGregor would never land a punch on Floyd.. He landed more punches than Pacquiao landed on Floyd, the majority in the first 3 rounds.. He had 2 problems I predicted.. No endurance and a piss poor defense..

He was done by the 4th and looked weight drained.. He was a sucker for straight fright hands because his stance is messed up.. Obviously he would show up having done proper roadwork and would hire a real boxing coach if he he fought Oscar, Paulie, or did some other boxing match.. He's extremely competitive so he's not going to go clueless about all the mistakes he made. He'd be considerably better.

He showed no improvement going into the Mayweather fight.
He still tired out early, like he always does.
Floyd stood there and let McGregor throw knowing he was going to exhaust himself. Sure the numbers say he landed but he landed maybe one or two punches that had any significance.
He's not a great athlete like you claim and there's plenty of boxers whom are better athletes.
How was he weight drained when he just moved up to the weight?
He did plenty of road work just like he did for Diaz but he still got tired very early.

He would still get far overpayed, he's an actor, not a fighter, let alone a boxer.

p4p1 wrote: ↑20 Nov 2017, 22:11

Kalan wrote: ↑20 Nov 2017, 17:37

p4p1 wrote: ↑20 Nov 2017, 03:47

I think he struggles at the British/Irish domestic level. He gets destroyed at the European level.

You sound as naive as Max Kellerman and many others who boasted that McGregor would never land a punch on Floyd.. He landed more punches than Pacquiao landed on Floyd, the majority in the first 3 rounds.. He had 2 problems I predicted.. No endurance and a piss poor defense..

He was done by the 4th and looked weight drained.. He was a sucker for straight fright hands because his stance is messed up.. Obviously he would show up having done proper roadwork and would hire a real boxing coach if he he fought Oscar, Paulie, or did some other boxing match.. He's extremely competitive so he's not going to go clueless about all the mistakes he made. He'd be considerably better.

He showed no improvement going into the Mayweather fight ... He did plenty of road work just like he did for Diaz but he still got tired

How the HELL can he IMPROVE when Mayweather was his FIRST BOXING MATCH???? ... He's a COMPLETE NOVICE!!!

He didn't do ANY roadwork... He doesn't do roadwork and didn't believe in it... That's got to change... And he didn't have a real Boxing coach... He used his MMA striking coach and that's like hiring an auto mechanic to to maintain your Learjet 75.

Also, nobody expected him to get through the 1st round because he was taking on the top boxer of the last generation in his FIRST FIGHT!!! ... That isn't very smart unless you can make 180 million dollars because of naive fans... Then you'd be a fool not to take the money and run.. Pete Rademacher barely got paid for having his green ass knocked cold by Floyd Patterson.. McGregor never hit the deck and got paid very well.

He learned a tremendous amount from Floyd in a well paid boxing lesson... He needs to keep it rolling.

Just because his press cons are so great i would like to see him in boxing. The dude is just entertaing!

GGG vs McGregor