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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: None of that would matter when mike's left hook crashed into Fury's chin. Laughable you dismiss it entirely. But, you're Rufus, you make people laugh.

I'm sorry but... There's no way in hell you're going to convince me a man just barely over 6' and 210 pounds, with DOUBLE DIGIT LOSSES... Is going to beat KLITSCHKO, let alone Fury.

Ross purity ring a bell?

I don't judge a man by his first few years. The Wladimir who was champion of the world, would have decimated Ross. That's your problem, you cant get passed one loss, two losses or even three. Wladimir was an all time great. Face it.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: None of that would matter when mike's left hook crashed into Fury's chin. Laughable you dismiss it entirely. But, you're Rufus, you make people laugh.

I'm sorry but... There's no way in hell you're going to convince me a man just barely over 6' and 210 pounds, with DOUBLE DIGIT LOSSES... Is going to beat KLITSCHKO, let alone Fury.

Ross purity ring a bell?

Ross was 6' 3... And weighed 249¾ lbs on the fight night so pretty bad comparison.

The guy himself has said that “I just let him punch himself out. I’m sure he would’ve knocked out a lot of guys before that. I just happened to take a good punch,I feel to this day that had he been more patient and boxed, he would’ve won."

Heretic wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:
I'm sorry but... There's no way in hell you're going to convince me a man just barely over 6' and 210 pounds, with DOUBLE DIGIT LOSSES... Is going to beat KLITSCHKO, let alone Fury.

Ross purity ring a bell?

Ross was 6' 3... And weighed 249¾ lbs on the fight night so pretty bad comparison.

The guy himself has said that “I just let him punch himself out. I’m sure he would’ve knocked out a lot of guys before that. I just happened to take a good punch,I feel to this day that had he been more patient and boxed, he would’ve won."

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Not that I said weaver would beat wlad, he'd definitely have a punchers chance. Early wlad would likely stop him early, like weaver would do to fury. I would never try to convince you of anything. You quoted me, we're talking, I'm right.

No, you're delusional. Mike Weaver was just a one dimensional puncher with a physique. Heavyweight Boxing is littered with guys like him. He was never good or great. He was kayoed by Duane Bobick, dropped a decision to Rodney Bobick, was kayoed by LARRY Frazier, lost decisions to Stan Ward and Leroy Jones, was kayoed by Johnny Duplooy, etc etc etc.

Just STOP with the bullshit already. You're really embarrassing yourself defending a guy who went life and death with SCOTT LEDOUX ffs. Get a grip on yourself. He didn't have this phenomenal power like you believe he had. Only when he was fighting absolute tincan bums and old, coked out fighters.

HomicideHenry wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Not that I said weaver would beat wlad, he'd definitely have a punchers chance. Early wlad would likely stop him early, like weaver would do to fury. I would never try to convince you of anything. You quoted me, we're talking, I'm right.

No, you're delusional. Mike Weaver was just a one dimensional puncher with a physique. Heavyweight Boxing is littered with guys like him. He was never good or great. He was kayoed by Duane Bobick, dropped a decision to Rodney Bobick, was kayoed by LARRY Frazier, lost decisions to Stan Ward and Leroy Jones, was kayoed by Johnny Duplooy, etc etc etc.

Just STOP with the bullshit already. You're really embarrassing yourself defending a guy who went life and death with SCOTT LEDOUX ffs. Get a grip on yourself. He didn't have this phenomenal power like you believe he had. Only when he was fighting absolute tincan bums and old, coked out fighters.

Bums? Coked out fighters? That's Fury!

Tyson Fury is not a bum. Any guy who can essentially TKO a guy like Dereck Chisora with jabs alone, never getting out of first gear... Is definitely not a bum... If Chisora couldn't do shit, neither is Mike fornicating Weaver lmao.

HomicideHenry wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Not that I said weaver would beat wlad, he'd definitely have a punchers chance. Early wlad would likely stop him early, like weaver would do to fury. I would never try to convince you of anything. You quoted me, we're talking, I'm right.

No, you're delusional. Mike Weaver was just a one dimensional puncher with a physique. Heavyweight Boxing is littered with guys like him. He was never good or great. He was kayoed by Duane Bobick, dropped a decision to Rodney Bobick, was kayoed by LARRY Frazier, lost decisions to Stan Ward and Leroy Jones, was kayoed by Johnny Duplooy, etc etc etc.

Just STOP with the bullshit already. You're really embarrassing yourself defending a guy who went life and death with SCOTT LEDOUX ffs. Get a grip on yourself. He didn't have this phenomenal power like you believe he had. Only when he was fighting absolute tincan bums and old, coked out fighters.

Now, now, Rufus. No need for a hissy fit. You may rag on Scott ledoux, but I'd favour him over McDermott. Who took fury to school. No delusions here, pusscake, you're a fury fan boy. I like him too, he's just not what you want him to be. Now go ahead and make a hypocrite out of yourself talking about fury being green when he got schooled while you nitpick weavers record.

HomicideHenry wrote:Tyson Fury is not a bum. Any guy who can essentially TKO a guy like Dereck Chisora with jabs alone, never getting out of first gear... Is definitely not a bum... If Chisora couldn't do poo, neither is Mike effing Weaver lmao.

"Loser to the Stars" Chisora has never done anything to prove he's better or even as good as Mike Weaver.

I don't think Tyson Fury's a bum, but he damn sure ain't a great either.

If you wanna compare him to a Heavyweight name from the past, he's closer to an oaf like Primo Carnera than somebody like say Lennox Lewis.

I don't think much of Tyson Fury at all, and I guarantee you he'll never accomplish anything else of note in this sport, and what he accomplished now ain't much.

Primo Carnera made 2 title defenses. Which means he was twice the Champion that Tyson Fury ever was or ever will be...and nobody gives Primo any respect at all in Boxing conversations so what's that tell ya?

HomicideHenry wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:
I'm sorry but... There's no way in hell you're going to convince me a man just barely over 6' and 210 pounds, with DOUBLE DIGIT LOSSES... Is going to beat KLITSCHKO, let alone Fury.

Ross purity ring a bell?

I don't judge a man by his first few years.

are you really this stupid? You can't even go seconds without contradicting yourself?

If Fury returns, and that's really all up to the corrupt powers that be in the BBBC with their outdated bullshit, I gurantee you that he's the only man capable of defeating Joshua. The irony is, if and when that happens, everyone will turn on Joshua and say he wasn't anything at all, and just rob Fury (once again) of his accomplishment. If he comes back from all this crap, and regains the undisputed heavyweight championship, it'll be on par with anything any other great champion ever did.

But alas we can't go on what ifs... Only by what he's accomplished... And it's a fair sight better than what Joshua has accomplished. Had Joshua fought KLITSCHKO in Germany two years ago, he'd of lost. He narrowly lost to an older, slower, inactive KLITSCHKO ffs.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Ross purity ring a bell?

I don't judge a man by his first few years.

are you really this stupid? You can't even go seconds without contradicting yourself?

Saad... The majority of the man's losses were in his "prime" years... Don't give alternative facts to the impressionable newbies who may be reading and buy your horseshit as gospel.

HomicideHenry wrote:If Fury returns, and that's really all up to the corrupt powers that be in the BBBC with their outdated bullshit, I gurantee you that he's the only man capable of defeating Joshua. The irony is, if and when that happens, everyone will turn on Joshua and say he wasn't anything at all, and just rob Fury (once again) of his accomplishment. If he comes back from all this crap, and regains the undisputed heavyweight championship, it'll be on par with anything any other great champion ever did.

But alas we can't go on what ifs... Only by what he's accomplished... And it's a fair sight better than what Joshua has accomplished. Had Joshua fought KLITSCHKO in Germany two years ago, he'd of lost. He narrowly lost to an older, slower, inactive KLITSCHKO ffs.

if Fury returns to face Joshua he gets knocked out inside 4 rounds. Take it to the bank!

Athletic, Well conditioned Champions don't lose to fat tubs of sh*t.

I'd give Fury credit if he ever did anything to deserve any. Since he's not gonna do that don't expect me to give him any credit anytime soon.

Fury is a mere footnote in history. He did win the worst title fight in boxing history, nobody can ever take that away from him.

HomicideHenry wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:
I don't judge a man by his first few years.

are you really this stupid? You can't even go seconds without contradicting yourself?

Saad... The majority of the man's losses were in his "prime" years... Don't give alternative facts to the impressionable newbies who may be reading and buy your horseshit as gospel.

Have you no shame? Anyway, rufster, you're boring me now. Take care pussy.

gilgamesh wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:If Fury returns, and that's really all up to the corrupt powers that be in the BBBC with their outdated bullshit, I gurantee you that he's the only man capable of defeating Joshua. The irony is, if and when that happens, everyone will turn on Joshua and say he wasn't anything at all, and just rob Fury (once again) of his accomplishment. If he comes back from all this crap, and regains the undisputed heavyweight championship, it'll be on par with anything any other great champion ever did.

But alas we can't go on what ifs... Only by what he's accomplished... And it's a fair sight better than what Joshua has accomplished. Had Joshua fought KLITSCHKO in Germany two years ago, he'd of lost. He narrowly lost to an older, slower, inactive KLITSCHKO ffs.

if Fury returns to face Joshua he gets knocked out inside 4 rounds. Take it to the bank!

Athletic, Well conditioned Champions don't lose to fat tubs of sh*t.

I'd give Fury credit if he ever did anything to deserve any. Since he's not gonna do that don't expect me to give him any credit anytime soon.

You got yourself a bet friend. $100.
Fury returns and faces Joshua the fat man is going to shock the world again by making a mountain of muscle look like a complete amateur.

I don't bet with people like that. No way for me to know if you're good for the money or not. No doubt in my mind that Joshua would mop the floor with Fury.

Fury will never beat a Top 10 ranked Heavyweight ever again.

He only ever beat one in the first place, and that was the worst fight of all time.

Wlad went a long way in redeeming himself by actually performing like a fighter against Joshua. Fury will never redeem himself.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Fury is a mere footnote in history. He did win the worst title fight in boxing history, nobody can ever take that away from him.

You really are stating alternative facts now. There's been far and away worse title matches than Fury vs Klitschko. Schmeling-Sharkey, Ali-Young, Ali-Evangelista, etc. I could go on and on. Look at the punch stats of Klitschko's last five before Fury, then look at the Fury numbers, then the Joshua punch totals. He made Klitschko look HORRIBLE.

HomicideHenry wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Fury is a mere footnote in history. He did win the worst title fight in boxing history, nobody can ever take that away from him.

You really are stating alternative facts now. There's been far and away worse title matches than Fury vs Klitschko. Schmeling-Sharkey, Ali-Young, Ali-Evangelista, etc. I could go on and on. Look at the punch stats of Klitschko's last five before Fury, then look at the Fury numbers, then the Joshua punch totals. He made Klitschko look HORRIBLE.

HomicideHenry wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Fury is a mere footnote in history. He did win the worst title fight in boxing history, nobody can ever take that away from him.

You really are stating alternative facts now. There's been far and away worse title matches than Fury vs Klitschko. Schmeling-Sharkey, Ali-Young, Ali-Evangelista, etc. I could go on and on. Look at the punch stats of Klitschko's last five before Fury, then look at the Fury numbers, then the Joshua punch totals. He made Klitschko look HORRIBLE.

Klitschko made Klitschko look horrible. He didn't fight. He fought like he was scared of his own shadow that night. It was the worst fight I've ever seen.

gilgamesh wrote:I don't bet with people like that. No way for me to know if you're good for the money or not. No doubt in my mind that Joshua would mop the floor with Fury.

Fury will never beat a Top 10 ranked Heavyweight ever again.

He only ever beat one in the first place, and that was the worst fight of all time.

Wlad went a long way in redeeming himself by actually performing like a fighter against Joshua. Fury will never redeem himself.

The second chisora fight he looked good against a perennial loser that almost stopped him in their first fight. Anyone that thinks weaver wouldn't be a player today has never seen him fight. I saw him give Holmes hell on closed circuit. Larry would toy with fury like a child.

gilgamesh wrote:I don't bet with people like that. No way for me to know if you're good for the money or not. No doubt in my mind that Joshua would mop the floor with Fury.

Fury will never beat a Top 10 ranked Heavyweight ever again.

He only ever beat one in the first place, and that was the worst fight of all time.

Wlad went a long way in redeeming himself by actually performing like a fighter against Joshua. Fury will never redeem himself.

LMFAOOOOO
KLITSCHKO nearly won too, before changing back into Mr Rogers and letting that uppity Englishman clear out the cobwebs. If he had any killer instinct Joshua would still be in traction right now.

I hope Pulev gets the drop on Joshua, because he sure as hell isn't going to make the same mistake Klitschko made. If he has Joshua hurt, it'll be nonstop bombs until that pos is counted out. I absolutely cannot stand paper champions.

I have to say that saad and Gilgamesh make very nice tag team

Good luck to you Henry I am of to bed now

Common sense and integrity are Henry's biggest rivals.

HomicideHenry wrote:
LMFAOOOOO
KLITSCHKO nearly won too, before changing back into Mr Rogers and letting that uppity Englishman clear out the cobwebs. If he had any killer instinct Joshua would still be in traction right now.

I hope Pulev gets the drop on Joshua, because he sure as hell isn't going to make the same mistake Klitschko made. If he has Joshua hurt, it'll be nonstop bombs until that pos is counted out. I absolutely cannot stand paper champions.

Why do you like Fury then? He's not Champion of anything

I'll say it. Weaver wouldn't be a player today. Too one dimensional. Too small for modern heavyweights. Just a roided up freak who liked to party and had a weak chin on top of it. A giant like Fury would chop down those washboard abs and make Weaver cry like a bitch, just like Steve Cunningham.