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I scored it 117-111 GGG
Then I rewatched it trying to see if there was anyway possible to give Canelo a win. I hesitantly gave Canelo any close round. Still for the life of me couldn't get it closer than 115-113 GGG
No way can you get a Canelo win out of this. It's not possible.

I'd like to think if I was going to get paid for doing something I shouldn't, I would have the sense to make sure my tracks were properly covered. There again she is stupid enough to score it so widely that even Mexicans are up in arms about it, maybe she would be stupid enough to make no attempt to hide any ill-gotten gains.

She's a fuckin idiot and I hope her cùnt turns in to a hedgehog

I saw on Fight Hype that some fans are commenting that they felt Canelo won. I am surprised so many people believe Canelo won. I don't think it is a majority, but probably about one-third of people believe Canelo won and that includes fans and journalists. Of course, they are biased and/or cannot accurately judge a fight. I read an article in The Miami Herald newspaper today and the journalist felt that the fight could have gone either way. It is shocking to me how boxing journalists could feel this way.

Pretty surprising scanning through her history at how few dubious calls she's made. She actually had Avril beating rios 117-111, I thought for sure she would have that the other way. Not sure why she is so reviled by many, including me.

candyslim wrote:

dagilechia wrote:

candyslim wrote:
I think you have to break the law to get sent to prison.

corruption is not breaking the law?

Difficult thing to prove isn't it? Corrupt or inept? I'm not sure that scoring a fight card in a way that seems absurd to anyone who knows anything about boxing would greatly interest law enforcement.

difficult since there is no investigation and bob bennett says it was ''just a bad day'' of her before any investigation

Her scorecard was like laughing at people's faces and saying ''look, we can do what we want, we do not even need to hide that, WE decide who wins, we judges have greater inpact on it even than fighters.'' It reminds me of communism time in Eastern Europe where actual true was not something that matters, a party decided what is the truth and what is not.

How much are judges paid? I can't imagine it's a ton. A bribe could be a couple hundred bucks.

RScarf1 wrote:I saw on Fight Hype that some fans are commenting that they felt Canelo won. I am surprised so many people believe Canelo won. I don't think it is a majority, but probably about one-third of people believe Canelo won and that includes fans and journalists. Of course, they are biased and/or cannot accurately judge a fight. I read an article in The Miami Herald newspaper today and the journalist felt that the fight could have gone either way. It is shocking to me how boxing journalists could feel this way.

It is FloydHype. What did you expect?

candyslim wrote:

dagilechia wrote:

candyslim wrote:
I think you have to break the law to get sent to prison.

corruption is not breaking the law?

Difficult thing to prove isn't it? Corrupt or inept? I'm not sure that scoring a fight card in a way that seems absurd to anyone who knows anything about boxing would greatly interest law enforcement.

Well, FBI spent their time investigating corruption in FIFA, so I would assume that they should look into corruption in Nevada.

I believe that one of the reasons that boxing is not fully investigated is that the powers that be would like it to collapse of its own decay.

Pretty much they have gotten what they have wanted in the USA. Boxing is of little to no consequence here.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:How much are judges paid? I can't imagine it's a ton. A bribe could be a couple hundred bucks.

I dont know how it works in USA or particulary Vegas, but i heard once a Polish international refree Leszek Jankowiak said that he and the other judges on his level, are not really paid much, he is nowhere close to be rich. And he is also working key account manager because of just judging he cant live a life on a good/very good level. Said even that there is no boxing judge that lives of boxing only.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Pretty surprising scanning through her history at how few dubious calls she's made. She actually had Avril beating rios 117-111, I thought for sure she would have that the other way. Not sure why she is so reviled by many, including me.

except of these mentioned above, she had also 114-113 Hopkins in his Calzaghe fight.

btw i see that most of people discuss about her scorecard and concentrate only on it therefore they forgot how dubious was the result (a draw) of the fight. maybe thats why her scorecard was so wide, if the scorecards was 115-113, 113-115, 114-114 people would talk only about the dubious result of the fight, now they concentrate on this one scorecard mostly

I thought Joe won that fight handily.

he did, but not for mrs Byrd

dagilechia wrote:he did, but not for mrs Byrd

Not for a lot of people, our take is the minority.

dagilechia wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:How much are judges paid? I can't imagine it's a ton. A bribe could be a couple hundred bucks.

I dont know how it works in USA or particulary Vegas, but i heard once a Polish international refree Leszek Jankowiak said that he and the other judges on his level, are not really paid much, he is nowhere close to be rich. And he is also working key account manager because of just judging he cant live a life on a good/very good level. Said even that there is no boxing judge that lives of boxing only.

The team of three corupted judges can earn a lot of money betting. I think about so called "sure bet" tactics. It is not too complicated, at all.

Lol, a judge can't guarantee a bout goes the distance and the other two will go along. It wouldn't be for gambling purposes.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol, a judge can't guarantee a bout goes the distance and the other two will go along. It wouldn't be for gambling purposes.

Saad I was speaking about "sure bet", they can eliminate some possibilities, and earn quite well.
When I was younger, I earned solid amounts of money, betting on this way. And, I was not a judge, nor a corrupted one.

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol, a judge can't guarantee a bout goes the distance and the other two will go along. It wouldn't be for gambling purposes.

Saad I was speaking about "sure bet", they can eliminate some possibilities, and earn quite well.
When I was younger, I earned solid amounts of money, betting on this way. And, I was not a judge, nor a corrupted one.

Lol

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol, a judge can't guarantee a bout goes the distance and the other two will go along. It wouldn't be for gambling purposes.

Saad I was speaking about "sure bet", they can eliminate some possibilities, and earn quite well.
When I was younger, I earned solid amounts of money, betting on this way. And, I was not a judge, nor a corrupted one.

Lol

Lol
Can you imagine the different bookmakers have the different odds for the same game ?
Lol

Ok

Judges don't seem to penalise fighters that get on their bikes. It's nothing new. Floyd has been picking up 10-9's over a decade by default when he's done nothing but leg it. The Org's are responsible, they aren't emphasizing the correct criteria for scoring. Start awarding aggression over negative tactics and we'll start getting more accyrate cards.

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Tanzio wrote:

RScarf1 wrote:I saw on Fight Hype that some fans are commenting that they felt Canelo won. I am surprised so many people believe Canelo won. I don't think it is a majority, but probably about one-third of people believe Canelo won and that includes fans and journalists. Of course, they are biased and/or cannot accurately judge a fight. I read an article in The Miami Herald newspaper today and the journalist felt that the fight could have gone either way. It is shocking to me how boxing journalists could feel this way.

It is FloydHype. What did you expect?

But Floyd and Oscar hate each other. Why would Fight/FloydHype be in favor of Canelo?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ok

And you put the money on the all possible results. I will try to explain you on tennis (only two possible results).

Bookmakers in Spain : Đoković - Nadal -----1 = 2,10 2 = 1,70
Bookmakers in Serbia: 1 = 1,70 2 = 2,10

The odds are very different, beacause of "patriotic betting"... Of course, it is advantage for "the clever guys"...........

You bet on Đoković in Spain, and on Nadal in Serbia (by e-mail, of course). You will earn in the both cases. This is the simplest case of sure bet.

Still lol ?

RScarf1 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

RScarf1 wrote:I saw on Fight Hype that some fans are commenting that they felt Canelo won. I am surprised so many people believe Canelo won. I don't think it is a majority, but probably about one-third of people believe Canelo won and that includes fans and journalists. Of course, they are biased and/or cannot accurately judge a fight. I read an article in The Miami Herald newspaper today and the journalist felt that the fight could have gone either way. It is shocking to me how boxing journalists could feel this way.

It is FloydHype. What did you expect?

But Floyd and Oscar hate each other. Why would Fight/FloydHype be in favor of Canelo?

Floyd and his father were clearly cheering for Canelo and giving him advise. Canelo being stopped or dominated by GGG would make Floyd's win over dehydrated green Canelo less valuable.