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Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 16:43
by Tony1244
greg wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:Racist isn't a yes or no but a matter of degree....
..interesting point,Tony..I've never thought of it this way..

Thanks, I'd be harder on Kovalev if he was N. American.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 17:06
by boxing_rocks
jamamb wrote:it was translated by a russian speaker and you could also put it into various translating services. it was sergeys own blog. he had selfies and personal pictures on it too. he seems to like fishing.
"It was", "a Russian speaker", "one old lady told me". So, where is a source?

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 17:07
by jamamb
look it up you lazy sod. i dont really care if you think its bs.

try 'kovalev grover young niggerr' 'kovalev sun burnt people' 'kovalev black sparring gun' etc.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 17:40
by boxing_rocks
jamamb wrote:look it up you lazy sod. i dont really care if you think its bs.

try 'kovalev grover young niggerr' 'kovalev sun burnt people' 'kovalev black sparring gun' etc.
Idiot, none of that was written by Kovalev. A source is actually something written/said by Kovalev himself.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 17:44
by jamamb
its in his blog mate. think that mightve been pulled due to all the racist nonsense on it. was definitely his. was lots of personal pictures of him going out and about doing stuff. dont believe it if that makes you feel better.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 18:13
by boxing_rocks
jamamb wrote:its in his blog mate. think that mightve been pulled due to all the racist nonsense on it. was definitely his. was lots of personal pictures of him going out and about doing stuff. dont believe it if that makes you feel better.
So, you have no proof whatsoever, not even a quote from a translator who allegedly knows Russian. You are just spreading rumors like an old bitch.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 18:23
by jamamb
its all out there mate. i just dont feel like being the one to look it up for you. you obviously care about the issue and are becoming emotional about it, so why dont you just put in the effort to find it yourself?

ill do u a favour and give you one though. http://allboxing.ru/archives/2013-09-21_06_18.html. russian guys have translated it and confirm that what he says was outrageous.here is some.

he says everyday he likes these 'tanned' people less and less, and that they behave 'abnormal'. he also uses 'generally' to ascribe this behavior to blacks as a whole'. even the interviewer asks him why he called young a ' purebred niggerr' and he also refers to young as 'sun burnt'. in his blog he said he dislikes 'sun burnt' people, so you do the math.

Interviewer - The legendary Bernard Hopkins believes that you do not have anything special.

Kovalev - Dark-skinned like a lot to talk about. For them it's part of the show. Hopkins such. Before the fight with Nathan Cleverly's father also promised that I "bury". Then we met, I had "pulled" and said that he was too much excess affords. He said, "Get real, we have no personal dislike to you, I do it to attract interest in the fight." I'm not an actor, not a talker, I'm a fighter, used to decide everything in the ring. They all talk a lot, and then firmly "asleep."

Interviewer - One day after a fight with Grover Young, by the way, the only draw match in your career, you call your opponent "purebred niggerr." Why?

Kovalev- We had a fight with him by accident. I was getting ready for a fight with another guy went to the weigh and Egis said that the enemy "broke", although there is a replacement, but it is harder to 9 pounds (4.5 kilograms), so you can dine. When we got on the scales, Young heavier than 6 pounds, but I did not bother. Then we were holding each opponent, the promoter was not us. So the next day the battle - at a party Play Boy. Among the spectators' misski "different years, naked girls in body paint instead of swimsuits. In the first round Grover tried to do something else, but I quickly picked up the keys to it. In the second, he got a bit tired and decided to get away with pretending that I got him heavily on the head. Young referee seduced. A Young - he's an actor, he fell to the floor, demanded a stretcher. The rules also have a point that if the fight lasts less than four rounds and stops due to injury, the judge set off a technical draw. I later met Young at the hotel - a happy, telling jokes to his coach. Asked him, "Why are not you in intensive care, because, judging by your antics, you're on the verge of death?" He started screaming something about a rematch, and I asked him not to delay, go for hotel and arrange it there . "No, no, no, that's illegal," - he said. I was hurt that this "sunburnt" easy money earned. Egis paid him 4,000 dollars, but it turns out nothing.

Interviewer - Grover, the main villain, whom you met in the ring?

Kovalev - Well ... Just as the villain he behaved unsportsmanlike. Generally some reason among blacks across inadequate guys. If they sparring something does not work, then you can and hit the elbow. Was a case where the "white" beat "black." So he drew his gun after a workout and began waving it in the face of the enemy, threatening to shoot him. This abnormal behavior. I'm not racist, I understand that everywhere there are good and bad guys, but these "tanned" every day I like less. I live in Florida, there are many illegals-islanders, I can see how they behave.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 18:36
by boxing_rocks
I will listen to that 50-minute show when I have time, but from that broken English "translation", I see that he isn't more racist than 90% of Russians. Yes, making generalizations about a certain race or ethnicity sounds racist in politically correct Western world, but it is common in Eastern Europe.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 18:37
by jamamb
oh, okay, so he's racist just like the rest of them. gotcha. so badou jack was right.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 18:45
by boxing_rocks
jamamb wrote:oh, okay, so he's racist just like the rest of them. gotcha. so badou jack was right.
If that conclusion satisfies a narrow minded guy like you, that's fine with me.

He was telling his Russian listeners most of who have never dealt with a black person about his limited experience with black boxers, and some of it (or most of it) wasn't positive. The generalization is what makes it racist, but that's how he was raised.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 14:24
by boxing_rocks
By the way, Kovalev named his new trainer
https://ringside24.com/en/21914-kovalev-names-new-coach

and it is a Uzbek (Asian). F*cking racist.