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Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:10
by diddy
Hand picked same promotion torch passing.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:11
by gilgamesh
Fair scorecards
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:11
by lazboy
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:10
Told you.
Still rigged as ever.
What are you talking about. It was a competitive fight. Ali deserved the win.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:11
by jamamb
miguel look very faded. there were rumors he was originally gonna fight lemieux. we wouldve seen miguel dancing even more than the loads of times he did here.
ali is good but this flatters him.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:11
by gilgamesh
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:10
Told you.
Still rigged as ever.
How is it rigged? Ali legitimately won the fight. It'd have been rigged if they'd given it to Cotto.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:13
by Tanzio
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:10
Told you.
Still rigged as ever.
What is rigged? I watched it and the decision is correct. It was a good entertaining fight. Ali is nothing special but he is legit.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:14
by Ricky_
Shame to see Cotto sign off on a loss, his ability to take a shot has gone, at least he's out the game now at the right time.
Great career

Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:15
by diddy
Tanzio wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:13
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:10
Told you.
Still rigged as ever.
What is rigged? I watched it and the decision is correct. It was a good entertaining fight. Ali is nothing special but he is legit.
He was hand picked because they knew he would look good against a faded name fighter on the way out and it would put him over. Oldest trick in the book.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:15
by lazboy
Ricky_ wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:14
Shame to see Cotto sign off on a loss, his ability to take a shot has gone, at least he's out the game now at the right time.
Great career
I hope he got paid well. It’s a shame but it’s Father Time and a long career with terrific performances. I believe his power is also gone. Good luck to him.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:16
by Tanzio
Left bicep injured 7th according to Cotto. Makes sense.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:16
by gilgamesh
I don't think his ability to take a shot was gone. I think it was a case of people selling Sadam Ali short. He's a legitimately solid fighter. Not a world beater, but not a pushover.
They should put Sadam Ali in there with Jeff Horn
Battle of the young bucks that knocked off the old legends.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:16
by diddy
Golden Boy could’ve picked any non Golden Boy fighter to send Cotto out on a high note but that doesn’t put money in their pocket. They conveniently chose one of their young lions to get some shine off a guy they could no longer make any money off of.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:17
by Tanzio
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:15
Tanzio wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:13
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:10
Told you.
Still rigged as ever.
What is rigged? I watched it and the decision is correct. It was a good entertaining fight. Ali is nothing special but he is legit.
He was hand picked because they knew he would look good against a faded name fighter on the way out and it would put him over. Oldest trick in the book.
You are deluded.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:17
by gilgamesh
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:15
Tanzio wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:13
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:10
Told you.
Still rigged as ever.
What is rigged? I watched it and the decision is correct. It was a good entertaining fight. Ali is nothing special but he is legit.
He was hand picked because they knew he would look good against a faded name fighter on the way out and it would put him over. Oldest trick in the book.
Crafty and shrewd if that was indeed the plan from Golden Boy which I don't at all doubt, but not what I'd call rigged. Cotto didn't just lay down for him. He still had to go out there and win the fight.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:18
by lazboy
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:15
Tanzio wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:13
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:10
Told you.
Still rigged as ever.
What is rigged? I watched it and the decision is correct. It was a good entertaining fight. Ali is nothing special but he is legit.
He was hand picked because they knew he would look good against a faded name fighter on the way out and it would put him over. Oldest trick in the book.
What are you complaining about? That they put Cotto in with someone who could potentially beat him. Wtf. And it was competitive, Cotto did have a chance to win. Who would you have put Cotto in with, Richard mayorga or Margarito. Stop complaining and enjoy the correct judges scorecards.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:18
by Tanzio
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:16
Golden Boy could’ve picked any non Golden Boy fighter to send Cotto out on a high note but that doesn’t put money in their pocket. They conveniently chose one of their young lions to get some shine off a guy they could no longer make any money off of.
Was the torn left bicep part of the conspiracy?
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:18
by jamamb
i know ali well and hes not all that. okay but deffo flattered by this. ali getting beaten up and stopped by vargas isnt a disservice to his ability.he caught cotto at the right time. cottos legs were awful and they went repeatedly
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:19
by diddy
Tanzio wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:17
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:15
Tanzio wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:13
What is rigged? I watched it and the decision is correct. It was a good entertaining fight. Ali is nothing special but he is legit.
He was hand picked because they knew he would look good against a faded name fighter on the way out and it would put him over. Oldest trick in the book.
You are deluded.
No. I read between the lines. It’s all about MONEY. They could’ve chosen anyone for the farewell fight. They conveniently choose one of their own young lions who needs a push after losing some shine. Coincidence? Hell no.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:20
by gilgamesh
jamamb wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:18
i know ali well and hes not all that. okay but deffo flattered by this. ali getting beaten up and stopped by vargas isnt a disservice to his ability.he caught cotto at the right time. cottos legs were awful and they went repeatedly
A fast, young guy is always gonna be a trouble to an older fighter talking about retirement after a long career. I wasn't surprised to see Ali giving Cotto hell early, but I was surprised to see him come back strong over the 2nd half. Cotto's bicep injury helps that make sense, but Ali seemed to get a 2nd wind also.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:22
by Tanzio
Nice piece on Cotto to finish. I wish we had ten young Cottos. On the other hand, we have a lot of quality boxers coming up.

Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:23
by gilgamesh
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:19
No. I read between the lines. It’s all about MONEY. They could’ve chosen anyone for the farewell fight. They conveniently choose one of their own young lions who needs a push after losing some shine. Coincidence? Hell no.
It was a win-win for the Promotion either Cotto wins and everybody goes home happy, or Ali wins and they have another name fighter to promote. This is true. That doesn't make it rigged. That's just crafty promoter sh*t. They all do sh*t like that.
It seems like you started wanting to tell the story of a rigged fight around the 8th round in your RBR, and you're telling it anyway even though that didn't turn out to be what the story actually was.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:26
by diddy
gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:23
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:19
No. I read between the lines. It’s all about MONEY. They could’ve chosen anyone for the farewell fight. They conveniently choose one of their own young lions who needs a push after losing some shine. Coincidence? Hell no.
It was a win-win for the Promotion either Cotto wins and everybody goes home happy, or Ali wins and they have another name fighter to promote. This is true. That doesn't make it rigged. That's just crafty promoter sh*t. They all do sh*t like that.
They knew Cotto had 1.5 feet out the door and one of their house fighters would get shine off of it. Not rigged per se but set up to make one of their guys they can still make money off of look good. The fight itself wasn’t fixed but the set up to make future money off it was.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:27
by lazboy
gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:23
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:19
No. I read between the lines. It’s all about MONEY. They could’ve chosen anyone for the farewell fight. They conveniently choose one of their own young lions who needs a push after losing some shine. Coincidence? Hell no.
It was a win-win for the Promotion either Cotto wins and everybody goes home happy, or Ali wins and they have another name fighter to promote. This is true. That doesn't make it rigged. That's just crafty promoter sh*t. They all do sh*t like that.
It seems like you started wanting to tell the story of a rigged fight around the 8th round in your RBR, and you're telling it anyway even though that didn't turn out to be what the story actually was.

Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:27
by Tanzio
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:19
Tanzio wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:17
diddy wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:15
He was hand picked because they knew he would look good against a faded name fighter on the way out and it would put him over. Oldest trick in the book.
You are deluded.
No. I read between the lines. It’s all about MONEY. They could’ve chosen anyone for the farewell fight. They conveniently choose one of their own young lions who needs a push after losing some shine. Coincidence? Hell no.
Of course it is not a coincidence. It is Cotto. Cotto is a prizefighter. He was not going out fighting a no-hoper.
Even a Nostradumbass could see that coming.
Re: Round-by-Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Sadam Ali - Dec. 2, 2017
Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 01:35
by Ricky_
gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 01:16
I don't think his ability to take a shot was gone. I think it was a case of people selling Sadam Ali short. He's a legitimately solid fighter. Not a world beater, but not a pushover.
They should put Sadam Ali in there with Jeff Horn
Battle of the young bucks that knocked off the old legends.
Ali was buckling Cotto with temple shots. I don't remember Canelo hurting Cotto as much as Ali.