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Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 05:30
by Mimmy
wesshaw1985 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 04:53
Its the correct decision. Fury now needs to get back in the ring and get fighting again. I cannot see Fury ever holding that title again by becoming the undisputed champ again, its not going to happen imo. But will be interesting once he steps back in the ring.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 05:56
by wesshaw1985

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 06:06
by mickey1975
It should only go to a unified champ. Until someone wins them all, it should remain vacant. Wilder has the most legit title win and that was Stiverne! The other two are ridiculous.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 06:10
by dirk2686
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:06 It should only go to a unified champ. Until someone wins them all, it should remain vacant. Wilder has the most legit title win and that was Stiverne! The other two are ridiculous.
Wlad never won them all.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 06:19
by mickey1975
dirk2686 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:10
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:06 It should only go to a unified champ. Until someone wins them all, it should remain vacant. Wilder has the most legit title win and that was Stiverne! The other two are ridiculous.
Wlad never won them all.
Ok, I'll accept AJ, Parker, Wilder sorting it out. Forget Charr. Mike Tyson never won them all.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 06:53
by stujones
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:19
dirk2686 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:10
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:06 It should only go to a unified champ. Until someone wins them all, it should remain vacant. Wilder has the most legit title win and that was Stiverne! The other two are ridiculous.
Wlad never won them all.
Ok, I'll accept AJ, Parker, Wilder sorting it out. Forget Charr. Mike Tyson never won them all.
A bit of a difference between not fighting Charr and not fighting the long reigning WBC champion, with actually a fair claim to being considered the #1 in the division for quite a large period. Yet no one seem to have had a problem with Wlad being Ring Champ.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 06:53
by tobyh5
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:19
dirk2686 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:10
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:06 It should only go to a unified champ. Until someone wins them all, it should remain vacant. Wilder has the most legit title win and that was Stiverne! The other two are ridiculous.
Wlad never won them all.
Ok, I'll accept AJ, Parker, Wilder sorting it out. Forget Charr. Mike Tyson never won them all.
Nice try. First WBO heavy champ was Damiani in 1989, Tyson was WBA, WBC and IBF champ from two years earlier. He had all belts in existence

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 07:07
by mickey1975
tobyh5 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:53
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:19
dirk2686 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:10

Wlad never won them all.
Ok, I'll accept AJ, Parker, Wilder sorting it out. Forget Charr. Mike Tyson never won them all.
Nice try. First WBO heavy champ was Damiani in 1989, Tyson was WBA, WBC and IBF champ from two years earlier. He had all belts in existence
So Mike wasn't undisputed when he boxed Spinks or Douglas? He had about a year as champ?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 08:25
by stujones
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 07:07
tobyh5 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:53
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:19

Ok, I'll accept AJ, Parker, Wilder sorting it out. Forget Charr. Mike Tyson never won them all.
Nice try. First WBO heavy champ was Damiani in 1989, Tyson was WBA, WBC and IBF champ from two years earlier. He had all belts in existence
So Mike wasn't undisputed when he boxed Spinks or Douglas? He had about a year as champ?
Spinks was in 1988.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 09:00
by mickey1975
So he had it a year until Damiani came along?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 09:31
by tobyh5
No, clearly the WBO being brand new at the time with some fat Italian as their title holder was not considered a real champion at the time. It was dismissed.

What is your point mickey? You were wrong and a "fair enough, I was mistaken" would normally suffice

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 09:42
by mickey1975
tobyh5 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 09:31 No, clearly the WBO being brand new at the time with some fat Italian as their title holder was not considered a real champion at the time. It was dismissed.

What is your point mickey? You were wrong and a "fair enough, I was mistaken" would normally suffice
I don't see how a title won from Charles Martin, stolen from its owner, is more valid than Damianis.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 09:43
by tobyh5
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 09:42
tobyh5 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 09:31 No, clearly the WBO being brand new at the time with some fat Italian as their title holder was not considered a real champion at the time. It was dismissed.

What is your point mickey? You were wrong and a "fair enough, I was mistaken" would normally suffice
I don't see how a title won from Charles Martin, stolen from its owner, is more valid than Damianis.
I did not mention that nor AJ nor give a shite mate, I am just talking about Tyson (the Mike variety) and your statement that Tyson never had all the belts when he actually did, lock stock the lot.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 09:44
by mickey1975
He did, briefly.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 10:16
by keithmoonhangover
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 09:42
tobyh5 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 09:31 No, clearly the WBO being brand new at the time with some fat Italian as their title holder was not considered a real champion at the time. It was dismissed.

What is your point mickey? You were wrong and a "fair enough, I was mistaken" would normally suffice
I don't see how a title won from Charles Martin, stolen from its owner, is more valid than Damianis.
AJ is ranked number 1 in the world by everyone except you. He's the man, you're going to have to live with it.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 11:20
by samwbr
Mickey will be like one of those Japanese soldiers on desert islands in the 70's refusing to accept the war was over .

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 11:29
by mickey1975
keithmoonhangover wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 10:16
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 09:42
tobyh5 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 09:31 No, clearly the WBO being brand new at the time with some fat Italian as their title holder was not considered a real champion at the time. It was dismissed.

What is your point mickey? You were wrong and a "fair enough, I was mistaken" would normally suffice
I don't see how a title won from Charles Martin, stolen from its owner, is more valid than Damianis.
AJ is ranked number 1 in the world by everyone except you. He's the man, you're going to have to live with it.
Seriously, I think Parker and Wilders title wins were better.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 16:56
by wesshaw1985

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 02 Feb 2018, 09:07
by wesshaw1985

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 02 Feb 2018, 09:13
by samwbr
Out for that long and your comeback is a freak show v a shot pensioner. :doh:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 02 Feb 2018, 09:15
by wesshaw1985
samwbr wrote: 02 Feb 2018, 09:13 Out for that long and your comeback is a freak show v a shot pensioner. :doh:
and we will all be watching if it happens :TU:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 02 Feb 2018, 09:16
by samwbr
wesshaw1985 wrote: 02 Feb 2018, 09:15
samwbr wrote: 02 Feb 2018, 09:13 Out for that long and your comeback is a freak show v a shot pensioner. :doh:
and we will all be watching if it happens :TU:
Maybe

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 02 Feb 2018, 09:18
by mickey1975
And he will still get 10m for AJ after!

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 02 Feb 2018, 10:12
by lillywhite14
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:19
dirk2686 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:10
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2018, 06:06 It should only go to a unified champ. Until someone wins them all, it should remain vacant. Wilder has the most legit title win and that was Stiverne! The other two are ridiculous.
Wlad never won them all.
Ok, I'll accept AJ, Parker, Wilder sorting it out. Forget Charr. Mike Tyson never won them all.
Tyson did. The WBO meant nothing at all back in his prime days. Infact, the WBO heavyweight title didn’t even exist when Tyson was undisputed champ.
It didn’t gain equal standing with the other three until mid 00’s

Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

Posted: 02 Feb 2018, 10:18
by stujones
Is Fury going to sort out his voice - I don't think his video do him any justice with the casual fans cos he still sounds ill (or living a hard life).... I guess him singing after the fight will be a thing of the past.