Canelo Álvarez Tests Positive For Clenbuterol

[boxing_rocks]

New NSAC rule: one can use clenbuterol, as long as it is done via eating meat. A burden of proof that it is from another source is on a testing entity.

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The president of the World Boxing Council, Mauricio Sulaiman , once again touched on the issue of Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (49-1-2, 34 KOs) and took aim at the critics who continue to attack the Mexican superstar.

WBC Prez Says Critics Need To Back Off: Canelo NOT a Cheater!

"Everyone took the opportunity to criticize Canelo. He can be criticized for other things, but not cheating, much less being a boxer who uses doping to take advantage of his opponent," Sulaiman said during the festivities for the 55th anniversary of the World Boxing Council.

"There were other tests that were done, and they went negative. Everything indicates that the fight on May 5 does not have any risk of being canceled. There will be a stricter monitoring [in terms of drug testing]. I ask you to respect Saul Alvarez , because it is unfair to cross him out because of something that [he didn't do]."

"For five years, Saul has been subjected to a lot of VADA tests as part of the Clean Boxing program and he has always come out clean. Clenbuterol is a national problem [in Mexico], there are many who give this to their animals to make them fat and the boxer is not looking to gain weight.. on the contrary, he seeks to reduce it. Everything says that this was contamination by way of contaminated meat."

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^^ He's just licking âss now..

[Thomastearns]

I'm glad he's cleared that up for us. For a minute it looked like Canelo had been caught cheating.

Thank God we have people of great moral integrity like Sulamain and the WBC in charge.
He's definitely a man with his finger on the boxing pulse and not a corrupted scheming megalomaniac no longer even able to recognise or acknowledge the truth.

We fans can all breathe easier now.

[Enlightened-One]

Canelo's fellow Mexican, Francisco Vargas tested positive for the banned substance clenbuterol in 2016, as did Australia's Lucas Browne, with both men maintaining that they were innocent, blaming the result on their consumption of contaminated meat.

Browne was stripped of his WBA title and also received a six month suspension, whereas Vargas escaped punishment.

What happens to fighters that aren’t from Mexico? Are they punished, whereas their Mexican counterparts are excused?

[lazboy]

I'm glad he's cleared that up for us. For a minute it looked like Canelo had been caught cheating.

Thank God we have people of great moral integrity like Sulamain and the WBC in charge.
He's definitely a man with his finger on the boxing pulse and not a corrupted scheming megalomaniac no longer even able to recognise or acknowledge the truth.

We fans can all breathe easier now.

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WBC Doctor on Canelo: Everything Points To Contamination

Antonio Fernández Hernandez, who is a doctor for the WBC, has reviewed the facts of the incident and he believes it's clearly a case of food contamination.

At the same time, Hernandez believes Canelo's handlers should have been more careful - especially since the issue of clenbuteral is well known in Mexico.

"Canelo has everything at hand... doctors, nutritionists, a physical trainer, so this is an oversight. The amount [of clenbuteral] they found is very little, it was an accident, a mistake by his team.. because he probably ingested contaminated meat," explained Hernandez.

"I have to clarify something, clenbuterol is a hormone that helps eliminate fat and increase muscle. However, the amount that was found in Canelo was minimal, which means that it's a feeding problem and his team is responsible. We have to remember that this is not the first time [that this has happened to an athlete in Mexico.]

"Take into account that in Mexico almost all of meat is contaminated, so athletes must consume select meat. If anyone is tested, he will come up with detectable levels of clenbuterol [after eating a contaminated meal], and this time it was Canelo's turn and that is why there is so much noise."

[boxing_rocks]

Or, which is more likely, Canelo's "nutritionist" just didn't do a good job of flushing intentionally consumed clenbuterol, but nobody is interested in real investigation.

[greg]

..why am I not surprised

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http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2018/03/ ... aces-found

WBN can now reveal that the Mexican has been tested MULTIPLE times since the initial find in mid-February, as per the guidelines laid down by VADA, as Canelo bids to prove it was nothing but an accident.

WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman has no doubts about Canelo's innocence as the boxing world heads towards what is supposed to be the showpiece of the year so far on Cinco de Mayo.

"The WBC thoroughly investigated Canelo’s case and is the only one with a complex Anti-Doping program," said Sulaiman, which added to GBP Eric Gomez stating Canelo had passed all requirements in the month since the Clenbuterol scandal hit.

The only thing left is for the Nevada State Athletic Commission to make their ruling on the matter.

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Of course he's passing the tests now. That's the whole point, if he was cycling intentionally...

[boxing_rocks]

Later clean tests don't prove anything. Povetkin's later tests were clean too, but he was suspended. Clear double standards by WBC.

[lurkyshaka]

I'm sick of hearing about how the ginger junkie is passing tests now.....Clen clears the system in about 4-5 days and possibly quicker if you know how to flush the body out correctly. Of course he's not going to test positive again, he'd be a complete retard if he carried on juicing after being caught.

He's a cheat, the only positive thing here is he's been caught and so will have to 'go it alone' this far out from the fight.

[boxing_rocks]

http://www.givemesport.com/1276126-tony ... utoplay=on

"I’m sick of saying it, but this is what’s wrong with boxing," he wrote. "I’ve heard this contaminated meat defence… it’s a good alibi, but Canelo would have to eat about five kilos of contaminated meat for that to happen.

"How true can that be? Fans have been asking why I haven’t made a comment on Canelo. I haven’t made a comment because no one cares. What difference does it make? The organisations and governing bodies don’t care, and they certainly don’t care what I say.

"What is the point of me coming out and saying, ‘ban him for life’? No governing body has any desire to step up. Not Ukad, not the British Boxing Board of Control, not WADA – no one. The WBA and WBC have already decided Canelo is innocent.

"That seems unfair, doesn’t it? Canelo gets the full backing, but smaller fish are left to fry. They pick and choose which fighters to back. For me, a drugs cheat is a drugs cheat if there’s steroids in your system. It does my head in."

Bellew then revealed his interesting stance on the situation, stating that he doesn't place Canelo in the same bracket as Povetkin and Ortiz.

"I am struggling to find a way to declare Canelo as a genuine drug cheat, but the investigation hasn’t even begun yet and they’re declaring him innocent? Do I class Canelo in the same group as Alexander Povetkin and Luis Ortiz?

"No. They’ve failed on numerous occasions. Can you give someone like Canelo the benefit of the doubt? He’s never failed a test before… so maybe. Ultimately though, my stance is the same: Test positive for steroids and you should get a life-time ban."

[lazboy]

I just wonder...how much of an advantage does he already have if he was dosing on it. Can he maintain the lean muscle he would have gained and the other benefits without topping up on it. Is that what he does normally. Dose up then when fight training weeks/month comes he just maintains his advantage through diet and exercise.

[boxing_rocks]

Didn't he start being randomly tested during the first GGG camp? He is not used to being tested between camps when the juicing happens.

[tiny_acres]

Later clean tests don't prove anything. Povetkin's later tests were clean too, but he was suspended. Clear double standards by WBC.

Yes I agree and I'm shocked the Povetkin nuthuggers aren't throwing a fit

[Badhusker]

It's really sad when the doctors and WBC heads lie to the public like they have been. Reminds me of crooked politicians. Canelo is big $, but this will backfire and set boxing back.

How many of them point out the fact that he failed 2 tests, not one in February? Tainted meat? It didn't work for Erik Morales, who got a 2yr ban. I hope GGG tells him fight is off.

[Enlightened-One]

I’ve just read the “Monday mailbag”, written by The RING’s Doug Fischer, a self-confessed GGG fan, who expressed his own thoughts about Canelo’s “clenbuterol scandal”, which I found really interesting:

I really don’t want to get into an endless debate with fans who are convinced that Canelo is juicing, because there’s so much more to boxing than him, but allow me to pose this question to you since you asked me if Team Canelo is stupid enough to allow him to accidentally ingest tainted meat:

If they are the consummate, savvy professionals that you say they are and they REALLY WANTED to utilize Canelo’s considerable wealth and influence to use performance-enhancing drugs to gain an edge against GGG, as you and others believe, why would they bother f__king with some cheap-ass s__t like clenbuterol?

They’re world-class professionals, right? So why would they have Canelo take the same s__t that housewives, struggling actors and amateur bodybuilders take to burn fat?

If Canelo really wanted to cheat, if he REALLY wanted to gain a performance edge without the risk of getting caught, wouldn’t he go to some expensive underground lab and get his body tested by sports science experts so they could create the best designer PEDs for him that money can buy – the type of s__t that DOESN’T come up on VADA tests like cheap-ass clenbuterol, which can be bought without a prescription in Mexico?

If Canelo wanted to cheat by using drugs, wouldn’t he want the BEST PEDs, something that would do more than just help him burn fat and keep lean muscle?

Wouldn’t he want something that would significantly increase his stamina and strength while helping him cut weight? And wouldn’t he want something without all of the health risks (especially to the heart) and awful side effects (headaches, muscle cramps, vomiting, chest pain, dizziness, etc.) associated with clen?

Whilst I appreciate The RING’s obvious commercial affiliations with Canelo’s promoter, Oscar De La Hoya, I find some of the points raised by Doug Fischer really compelling.

[jamamb]

can doctors just magically create untraceable super peds like that? is that more likely to leave a trail then just geeting clen?

and doesnt clen help stamina and various things quite effectively? and have the mexican meat excuse attached to it? and isnt it very hard to trace if someone hasnt been tested year round (canelo isnt i dont think)?

i dunno, dougie has some points but also i think they have a lot of holes, i can see ample reason for using it

not saying canelo did as i dont know everything though

[boxing_rocks]

Dougie literally gets paid by Oscar, so I wouldn't expect him to be completely neutral.

All non-Mexican pro boxers who voiced their opinion were quite clear that they believe he is a cheater and meat excuse is laughable.

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Golovkin: Canelo is Cheating, Using Drugs - De La Hoya is Dirty

Golovkin is not buying Canelo's excuse, which several other athletes have used in the country - including other boxers like Erik Morales, Francisco Vargas and Luis Nery.

"Again with Mexican meat? Come on," Golovkin said to media members on Tuesday.

"I told you, it's not Mexican meat. This is Canelo. This is his team. This is his promotion. ... Canelo is cheating. They're using these drugs, and everybody is just trying to pretend it's not happening."

Golovkin did not end things there - he believes Canelo has been using performance enhancing drugs for some time. He also took aim at Canelo's promoter, Oscar De La Hoya of Golden Boy Promotions.

"It was pretty obvious when (Canelo's) muscles were all (enlarged) ... and with the traces of injections, which were visible," Golovkin said. "I can talk about Oscar De La Hoya, too. He is also not clean. He's dirty.

"You should take a look at the photos and ask a doctor. Ask any doctor. Let him explain what those (muscles) are. It's better even to use the lie detector. Then there wouldn't be any silly questions about meat or fruits or chocolate."

The rematch is still expected to go forward, even though the Nevada State Athletic Commission has not officially made a ruling on Canelo's tests.

If the second contest needed any further bad blood, it now has it.

[Enlightened-One]

This might be some sort of conspiracy theory that only exists in my mind, but only two days ago, Gennady Golovkin proposed the idea of facing Billy Joe Saunders in a title unification bout if his super-fight against Canelo fell through.

The following day (i.e. yesterday), Billy Joe Saunders withdrew from his bout against Martin Murray, due to a minor injury.

Earlier on today, GGG behaves out-of-character and labels Canelo as being a drug “cheat”, with some members of the media suggesting that such claims could jeopardize their Cinco de Mayo rematch.

Less than four hours ago, lots of articles have been published by the media strongly-suggesting that Saunders is likely to become GGG’s fall-back opponent if Golovkin-Canelo II is cancelled.

Sometimes actions really do speak louder than words, which means that when all the chess pieces are moving in a particular direction, it’s not always a coincidence… and in this case, it may indicate that some sort of suspension may be imminent for Canelo.

I really do hope I’m reading too much into things and I am ultimately proven wrong, because I don’t want to see the GGG-Canelo rematch being scuppered!

[jamamb]

interesting mate, i can understand your reasoning

[Ruthless-RKO]

This might be some sort of conspiracy theory that only exists in my mind, but only two days ago, Gennady Golovkin proposed the idea of facing Billy Joe Saunders in a title unification bout if his super-fight against Canelo fell through.

The following day (i.e. yesterday), Billy Joe Saunders withdrew from his bout against Martin Murray, due to a minor injury.

Earlier on today, GGG behaves out-of-character and labels Canelo as being a drug “cheat”, with some members of the media suggesting that such claims could jeopardize their Cinco de Mayo rematch.

Less than four hours ago, lots of articles have been published by the media strongly-suggesting that Saunders is likely to become GGG’s fall-back opponent if Golovkin-Canelo II is cancelled.

Sometimes actions really do speak louder than words, which means that when all the chess pieces are moving in a particular direction, it’s not always a coincidence… and in this case, it may indicate that some sort of suspension may be imminent for Canelo.

I really do hope I’m reading too much into things and I am ultimately proven wrong, because I don’t want to see the GGG-Canelo rematch being scuppered!

Saunders-Murray have already got a new date though.

[Enlightened-One]

This might be some sort of conspiracy theory that only exists in my mind, but only two days ago, Gennady Golovkin proposed the idea of facing Billy Joe Saunders in a title unification bout if his super-fight against Canelo fell through.

The following day (i.e. yesterday), Billy Joe Saunders withdrew from his bout against Martin Murray, due to a minor injury.

Earlier on today, GGG behaves out-of-character and labels Canelo as being a drug “cheat”, with some members of the media suggesting that such claims could jeopardize their Cinco de Mayo rematch.

Less than four hours ago, lots of articles have been published by the media strongly-suggesting that Saunders is likely to become GGG’s fall-back opponent if Golovkin-Canelo II is cancelled.

Sometimes actions really do speak louder than words, which means that when all the chess pieces are moving in a particular direction, it’s not always a coincidence… and in this case, it may indicate that some sort of suspension may be imminent for Canelo.

I really do hope I’m reading too much into things and I am ultimately proven wrong, because I don’t want to see the GGG-Canelo rematch being scuppered!

Saunders-Murray have already got a new date though.

I don't think it's official and if f it was, Fwank Warren would probably pay Murray to step aside.