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Re: Joshua vs. Wilder, the fair percent (without the rematch clause) ?

Posted: 26 Apr 2018, 02:47
by candyslim
Riddick Blowe wrote: 25 Apr 2018, 19:46
Badhusker wrote: 25 Apr 2018, 18:19 Team Wilder sent a 50 million$ offer to team Joshua. We'll see who wants to fight now and who doesn't.
Read it on BS.
Any word on where are they going to get $50 million from? :lol:
I don't know if you follow football (soccer) Riddick, but it reminds me of the Glazer family's takeover of Manchester United. Now I'm no expert and I could be talking nonsense, but it seemed to me how it was explained at the time, they didn't have the money but they managed to borrow what they needed to buy Man U using the football club as collateral for the loan ???

It's like Team Wilder don't have any money but they want to pay Joshua out of the money generated by the fight. I guess there is nothing wrong with that, Hearn has been saying 'make us an offer' so they have. It's what they were asking for too so hopefully they will take it.

They'll look bad if they don't for sure, although it is a gamble and a test of whether Hearn is as good a judge of the numbers as he says he is. Nobody really knows how much this fight is going to generate. By taking $50m it is conceivable that Joshua will be selling himself short and that Wilder will earn more than him.

This is unlikely though unless Hearn has been tactically downplaying what he expects the fight to make so as to lowball Wilder. Possibly more likely is that if Joshua is guaranteed $50m out of the profit (once all the costs are met) it is conceivable there may be little or nothing left for Deontay,

On balance though if I were Joshua I'd be happy to take a guaranteed $50m and if Wilder did end up with more than that then good luck to him.

It looks like we are getting a unification fight gentlemen.

Re: Joshua vs. Wilder, the fair percent (without the rematch clause) ?

Posted: 26 Apr 2018, 04:20
by Enlightened-One
candyslim wrote: 26 Apr 2018, 02:47
Riddick Blowe wrote: 25 Apr 2018, 19:46
Badhusker wrote: 25 Apr 2018, 18:19 Team Wilder sent a 50 million$ offer to team Joshua. We'll see who wants to fight now and who doesn't.
Read it on BS.
Any word on where are they going to get $50 million from? :lol:
On balance though if I were Joshua I'd be happy to take a guaranteed $50m and if Wilder did end up with more than that then good luck to him.

It looks like we are getting a unification fight gentlemen.
I think you’re jumping the gun a bit. The sincerity and details of the offer hasn’t been ascertained yet, since Team Joshua hasn’t even seen the contract.

Re: Joshua vs. Wilder, the fair percent (without the rematch clause) ?

Posted: 26 Apr 2018, 07:42
by tiny_acres
Wales wrote: 26 Apr 2018, 00:53
tiny_acres wrote: 19 Apr 2018, 16:41
Kalan wrote: 19 Apr 2018, 15:33

Both fighters were equal draws in those fights... Foreman was the undefeated Heavyweight Champion... Ali was the twice defeated challenger... (Deontay is already as old as Ali was for the Foreman fight) ... Joshua will be doing 90% of the draw for Joshua-Wilder... Wilder will be making 10 X what he ever made... Joshua might double what he ever made... You can't give Wilder a split... Offer him a flat fee... 70% of Brits will be watching... 5% of Americans will watch.
The largest British boxing ppv in history was
1.2 million buys.
Conservative figures would put a minimum
1 million USA Ppv buys for this fight.
And American ppv cost a hell of a lot more than they do in Britain.
This fight is not as easy to base percentage off of as most fights. Regardless of what the majority thinks.
Aj Wlad did 1.5m
https://www.boxingnewsandviews.com/2017 ... -ppv-buys/

Re: Joshua vs. Wilder, the fair percent (without the rematch clause) ?

Posted: 26 Apr 2018, 11:23
by candyslim
Enlightened-One wrote: 26 Apr 2018, 04:20
candyslim wrote: 26 Apr 2018, 02:47
Riddick Blowe wrote: 25 Apr 2018, 19:46

Any word on where are they going to get $50 million from? :lol:
On balance though if I were Joshua I'd be happy to take a guaranteed $50m and if Wilder did end up with more than that then good luck to him.

It looks like we are getting a unification fight gentlemen.
I think you’re jumping the gun a bit. The sincerity and details of the offer hasn’t been ascertained yet, since Team Joshua hasn’t even seen the contract.
I didn't mean that this was signed and sealed but that both parties seem to genuinely want the fight and that on the face of it they are not a million miles apart.

I'm more confident today than I was yesterday that this fight will get made.

Re: Joshua vs. Wilder, the fair percent (without the rematch clause) ?

Posted: 26 Apr 2018, 12:07
by happyNY18
Riddick Blowe wrote: 25 Apr 2018, 19:46
Badhusker wrote: 25 Apr 2018, 18:19 Team Wilder sent a 50 million$ offer to team Joshua. We'll see who wants to fight now and who doesn't.
Read it on BS.
Any word on where are they going to get $50 million from? :lol:
Haymon/showtime/private investors.

Its a massive fight, could easily be the biggest HW fight ever, the record is 1.97m buys for Tyson Lewis. Tyson-Holyfield was about the same.

Re: Joshua vs. Wilder, the fair percent (without the rematch clause) ?

Posted: 26 Apr 2018, 12:21
by Enlightened-One
happyNY18 wrote: 26 Apr 2018, 12:07
Riddick Blowe wrote: 25 Apr 2018, 19:46
Badhusker wrote: 25 Apr 2018, 18:19 Team Wilder sent a 50 million$ offer to team Joshua. We'll see who wants to fight now and who doesn't.
Read it on BS.
Any word on where are they going to get $50 million from? :lol:
Haymon/showtime/private investors.

Its a massive fight, could easily be the biggest HW fight ever, the record is 1.97m buys for Tyson Lewis. Tyson-Holyfield was about the same.
Wilder and AJ are relatively unknown in the US.

The fight might technically generate more dollars than previous heavyweight PPV events, but only if inflation isn't taken into consideration.

In terms of commercial success, it won't even make the top ten heavyweight events.

Re: Joshua vs. Wilder, the fair percent (without the rematch clause) ?

Posted: 26 Apr 2018, 12:32
by happyNY18
Enlightened-One wrote: 26 Apr 2018, 12:21
happyNY18 wrote: 26 Apr 2018, 12:07
Riddick Blowe wrote: 25 Apr 2018, 19:46

Any word on where are they going to get $50 million from? :lol:
Haymon/showtime/private investors.

Its a massive fight, could easily be the biggest HW fight ever, the record is 1.97m buys for Tyson Lewis. Tyson-Holyfield was about the same.
Wilder and AJ are relatively unknown in the US.

The fight might technically generate more dollars than previous heavyweight PPV events, but only if inflation isn't taken into consideration.

In terms of commercial success, it won't even make the top ten heavyweight events.
Well historically, whatever you say fergus the opposite is usually true.

Re: Joshua vs. Wilder, the fair percent (without the rematch clause) ?

Posted: 26 Apr 2018, 18:13
by candyslim
Ouch. Keep the punches above the belt line and break when you're told :D