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bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:09

asdfjkl wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:02

bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:49 Made any money in Russia?

Father of a friend of mine became a milionair thanks to them.

And he shared details with 15 yo kid?

What makes you think that?

asdfjkl wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:13

bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:09

asdfjkl wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:02
Father of a friend of mine became a milionair thanks to them.

And he shared details with 15 yo kid?

What makes you think that?

Becouse, for your sake, I hope you are 15yo at most

bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:20

asdfjkl wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:13

bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:09 And he shared details with 15 yo kid?

What makes you think that?

Becouse, for your sake, I hope you are 15yo at most

Lol, then I'll hope you become 51 ok?

asdfjkl wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:27

bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:20

asdfjkl wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:13
What makes you think that?

Becouse, for your sake, I hope you are 15yo at most

Lol, then I'll hope you become 51 ok?

So am I What was the point?

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:06 I didn't claim Povetkin was 'too small' to trouble Price. I claimed Povetkin was 'too small' to trouble a peak conditioned David Price. Price was anything but at peak physical and mental condition against Povetkin.

What has Povetkin having almost no chance at beating elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS, got to do with Anthony Joshua FACTUALLY and EVIDENTLY lacking GENUINE / REAL knockout power? Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder are concussive knockout artists. Joshua isn't and is a relative feather fist compared to them. Who has Joshua ever KO'ed like how Wilder KO'ed Artur Szpilka or Siarrhei Liakovich? Who has Joshua ever KO'ed like how Wladimir Klitschko KO'ed Eddie Chambers and Phil Jackson? Exactly! My point and argument is driven home!

Like in previous fights, I can't see Joshua actually KNOCKING OUT (not prematurely stopping through the help of referees) Deontay Wilder. I don't think he has the power to do so. He arguably has the most overrated punching power in boxing history. At least as far as the heavyweight division is concerned.

Wait, aren't you contradicting yourself? In one thread you are saying that AJ has zero power, in another one you are saying he will brutally KO Povetkin, who wasn't stopped even by a huge puncher like Wladimir Klitschko. And you are predicting that KO of Povetkin will be so brutal that he will leave the ring on the stretcher. So, does it mean that Povetkin's chin is made of glass?

dickbelden wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 10:03 http://boxingnews.com.ua/ru/novosti/214 ... -promouter

I’m not sure of Eddie Hearn’s precise words or the context in which he said them, since this article doesn’t provide an interview transcript, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable for AJ to abandon his WBA world title (if he loses the purse bid to Povetkin’s promoters) if the Brit is somehow being asked to defend his championship in Russia.

A fighter has to make decisions that are in their own best interest.

Povetkin would have to choose between either: receiving a huge purse to compete on British soil against AJ; or alternatively allow his promoter's to win the purse bid and challenge for the vacant WBA world title in his homeland against someone else for far less money. The choice would be his to make.

I sincerely doubt that vacating the WBA world title would adversely affect the Brit’s career.

bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:45

asdfjkl wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:27

bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:20 Becouse, for your sake, I hope you are 15yo at most

Lol, then I'll hope you become 51 ok?

So am I What was the point?

As far as I know nothing, just like all of your comments.

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 06:28

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:06 I didn't claim Povetkin was 'too small' to trouble Price. I claimed Povetkin was 'too small' to trouble a peak conditioned David Price. Price was anything but at peak physical and mental condition against Povetkin.

What has Povetkin having almost no chance at beating elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS, got to do with Anthony Joshua FACTUALLY and EVIDENTLY lacking GENUINE / REAL knockout power? Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder are concussive knockout artists. Joshua isn't and is a relative feather fist compared to them. Who has Joshua ever KO'ed like how Wilder KO'ed Artur Szpilka or Siarrhei Liakovich? Who has Joshua ever KO'ed like how Wladimir Klitschko KO'ed Eddie Chambers and Phil Jackson? Exactly! My point and argument is driven home!

Like in previous fights, I can't see Joshua actually KNOCKING OUT (not prematurely stopping through the help of referees) Deontay Wilder. I don't think he has the power to do so. He arguably has the most overrated punching power in boxing history. At least as far as the heavyweight division is concerned.

Wait, aren't you contradicting yourself? In one thread you are saying that AJ has zero power, in another one you are saying he will brutally KO Povetkin, who wasn't stopped even by a huge puncher like Wladimir Klitschko. And you are predicting that KO of Povetkin will be so brutal that he will leave the ring on the stretcher. So, does it mean that Povetkin's chin is made of glass?

And at first he was saying that Joshua is unlikely to stop Povetkin. He's a somewhat convincing troll, it's time to ignore him.

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 07:32

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 06:28

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:06 I didn't claim Povetkin was 'too small' to trouble Price. I claimed Povetkin was 'too small' to trouble a peak conditioned David Price. Price was anything but at peak physical and mental condition against Povetkin.

What has Povetkin having almost no chance at beating elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS, got to do with Anthony Joshua FACTUALLY and EVIDENTLY lacking GENUINE / REAL knockout power? Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder are concussive knockout artists. Joshua isn't and is a relative feather fist compared to them. Who has Joshua ever KO'ed like how Wilder KO'ed Artur Szpilka or Siarrhei Liakovich? Who has Joshua ever KO'ed like how Wladimir Klitschko KO'ed Eddie Chambers and Phil Jackson? Exactly! My point and argument is driven home!

Like in previous fights, I can't see Joshua actually KNOCKING OUT (not prematurely stopping through the help of referees) Deontay Wilder. I don't think he has the power to do so. He arguably has the most overrated punching power in boxing history. At least as far as the heavyweight division is concerned.

Wait, aren't you contradicting yourself? In one thread you are saying that AJ has zero power, in another one you are saying he will brutally KO Povetkin, who wasn't stopped even by a huge puncher like Wladimir Klitschko. And you are predicting that KO of Povetkin will be so brutal that he will leave the ring on the stretcher. So, does it mean that Povetkin's chin is made of glass?

And at first he was saying that Joshua is unlikely to stop Povetkin. He's a somewhat convincing troll, it's time to ignore him.

I never claimed Joshua is unlikely to stop Povetkin. I asked a question based on facts.

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 06:28

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:06 I didn't claim Povetkin was 'too small' to trouble Price. I claimed Povetkin was 'too small' to trouble a peak conditioned David Price. Price was anything but at peak physical and mental condition against Povetkin.

What has Povetkin having almost no chance at beating elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS, got to do with Anthony Joshua FACTUALLY and EVIDENTLY lacking GENUINE / REAL knockout power? Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder are concussive knockout artists. Joshua isn't and is a relative feather fist compared to them. Who has Joshua ever KO'ed like how Wilder KO'ed Artur Szpilka or Siarrhei Liakovich? Who has Joshua ever KO'ed like how Wladimir Klitschko KO'ed Eddie Chambers and Phil Jackson? Exactly! My point and argument is driven home!

Like in previous fights, I can't see Joshua actually KNOCKING OUT (not prematurely stopping through the help of referees) Deontay Wilder. I don't think he has the power to do so. He arguably has the most overrated punching power in boxing history. At least as far as the heavyweight division is concerned.

Wait, aren't you contradicting yourself? In one thread you are saying that AJ has zero power, in another one you are saying he will brutally KO Povetkin, who wasn't stopped even by a huge puncher like Wladimir Klitschko. And you are predicting that KO of Povetkin will be so brutal that he will leave the ring on the stretcher. So, does it mean that Povetkin's chin is made of glass?

Povetkin compared to Anthony Joshua is:

1) Significantly older in age.

2) Totally washed up / shot as an elite fighter (hence why he refuses to fight anybody else like Dillian Whyte due to wanting a payday and due to the fear of losing to other opponents and losing the chance to face Joshua if he loses to anybody else before facing Joshua).

3) Significantly weaker in terms of physical strength.

4) Significantly less powerful in terms of punching.

5) Significantly smaller in size. In height, weight and reach.

6) Someone who was unable to defeat a common opponent in Wladimir Klitschko because he isn't a super heavyweight. Whilst Joshua managed to defeat that same opponent because he is a GENUINE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT.


There are plenty more advantages Joshua has over Povetkin. I could keep going on. But I think I've made my point clear. So with all these advantages that Joshua possesses over Povetkin, how isn't this fight an utter, disgusting, gruesome, one sided, nonsensical and a laughable mismatch?

And I only claimed Joshua has 0 CONCUSSIVE knockout power, if we compare him to GENUINE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT knockout artists like Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder. And it is true. Since how many concussive knockouts does Joshua have in his entire pro career? Exactly! None! Whilst Deontay Wilder and Wladimir Klitschko have many.

That doesn't mean I'm contradicting myself. Joshua doesn't need to have the same power as other elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT knockout artists to be able to totally demolish a weak, powerless and a tiny whiny midget sized heavyweight who is really a blown up light heavy / cruiser weight in Alexander Povetkin.

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candyslim wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:57

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:06 I didn't claim Povetkin was 'too small' to trouble Price. I claimed Povetkin was 'too small' to trouble a peak conditioned David Price. Price was anything but at peak physical and mental condition against Povetkin.

What has Povetkin having almost no chance at beating elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS, got to do with Anthony Joshua FACTUALLY and EVIDENTLY lacking GENUINE / REAL knockout power? Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder are concussive knockout artists. Joshua isn't and is a relative feather fist compared to them. Who has Joshua ever KO'ed like how Wilder KO'ed Artur Szpilka or Siarrhei Liakovich? Who has Joshua ever KO'ed like how Wladimir Klitschko KO'ed Eddie Chambers and Phil Jackson? Exactly! My point and argument is driven home!

Like in previous fights, I can't see Joshua actually KNOCKING OUT (not prematurely stopping through the help of referees) Deontay Wilder. I don't think he has the power to do so. He arguably has the most overrated punching power in boxing history. At least as far as the heavyweight division is concerned.

Price was in the best physical and mental condition that he had been in for some time. That's not saying much I know. I'd have expected you to be fully aware of his fragility before making your assessment of his chances against Povetkin, but it seems not.

For the record I think Deontay Wilder is the hardest hitter in boxing today, harder than Joshua yes. It seems to me that's like say my camera takes better pictures because it has a shutter speed of 1/4000 whereas yours is only 1/3750. What I mean is Joshua hits quite hard enough to get the job done, see that shot that finished Dillian Whyte if you doubt his power. I accept that he is more of an accumulation puncher than a one shot knock out artist, but your claim that he is reliant on referees is utter bollocks which I'm beginning to think is a specialty of yours.

I didn't pick Price to beat Povetkin. Rather, I predicted it would be a dangerous / risky fight for Povetkin and I also predicted that Povetkin would win in 7 or 8 rounds through Price becoming fatigued. Price has never been in the physical / mental condition required in order to compete successfully at the elite level.

Joshua has far too many nonsensical, premature stoppages caused by British referees. So I have every right to call this out. The same is the case with Joe Calzaghe in the early part of his career where he had many premature stoppages due to the British referees.

Wladimir Klitschko was a premature stoppage after Wlad was pretty much blocking and rolling every punch Joshua threw. Likewise, the Takam fight was another nonsensical stoppage in favor of Joshua.

Joshua, rarely if ever knocks opponents out cleanly. His power is extremely questionable if compared to GENUINE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT knockout artists.

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:35

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 02:32

Kalan wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 01:03

It's funny as a freakin' heart attack.. Up the jacksie my axie AJ has a family.

You don't need all the belts... You can drop a couple of them... Povetkin is an old man like Ortiz anyway... He doesn't stand a chance in Hell so why fight him if it isn't in the UK??? .... Screw Povetkin and give up the belt...

Povetkin can win that belt fighting some chump and you can fight AP in Russia for it when he's 40... Wladimir fought in Russia so it's not like you're going to be robbed there... They do drug testing there and it's better than the testing in the US... The idea that Povetkin is going to go 12 with Joshua is absurd anyway... He's too old and slowing way down.

And BTW.... The fight people want to see is Joshua-Wilder... They don't care about anything else... Hearn offered Wilder more than 5 X as much as he ever made in another fight... Besides the money, Wilder would be in a dominant position if he beat Joshua... But he doesn't want to do it??? .... I don't think Wilder is a coward... I just don't think Haymon, DiBella and the boys are going to let the exploited MFer go to England to try to win the other belts... They don't believe he'll win.

Anthony Joshua has practically NO / ZERO REAL / GENUINE knockout power! He has never knocked out a single opponent unconscious. I mean, LITERALLY unconscious. His knockout record is literally just a manufactured marketing product. Which consists of numerous premature, nonsensical and BS British stoppages. Even someone with a suspect chin in Wladimir Klitschko who was brutalized in 2 rounds by Corrie Sanders, managed to stay standing after eating the most powerful uppercut Joshua could throw and Joshua also had to cheat to land that uppercut by pulling down Wladimir Klitschko's head which multiplied the damage. Yet, Joshua still needed to push Wlad to the ground to get the knockdown because his power is grossly overrated and wasn't enough to directly drop Wlad.

Deontay Wilder is going to totally butcher Anthony Joshua. It'd be close to a mismatch! Wilder is a GENUINE knockout artist with GENUINE knockout power, unlike Anthony Joshua. He is able to put his opponents to sleep and into a state of unconsciousness unlike Anthony Joshua. Joshua is practically a feather fisted girl, if compared to Wilder when it comes to punching power.

Joshua is barely going to KO any elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT legitimately and concussively. He will mainly do so through the help of referees.

Please stop posting.

Why? Because I'm exposing Anthony Joshua as someone who doesn't have GENUINE / REAL / LEGITIMATE concussive knockout power against opponents his own size and compared to knockout artists his own size? I mean, proper CONCUSSIVE power. So instead, he picks on little midgets and insects like Povetkin and Takam because he's too afraid to face a prime opponent his own size with REAL KO power like Deontay Wilder?

vostok wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:17

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 10:57 Not interested in that fight whatsoever to begin with. Joshua should go his own way and fight real elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. Rather than waste time on irrelevant, small, tiny and midget heavyweights the size of little insects that he could just step on and squash like a little bug. Good thing for Povetkin's health if he avoids fighting big monstrous Joshua.

World title belts don't really mean much. Who one beats is more important than what belt or how many belts one owns.

What was your opinion&prediction for Povetkin vs. Price..?
Just curious...

Povetkin by TKO or RTD stoppage in 7th or 8th round after Price became physically too tired to continue.

I was bit afraid that Joshua or more likely hes team would chicken out from fighting Povetkin in russia.

It would be nice chance of pace if Joshua needed to win without the active help from the referee and judges.

I hope that the fight still happens... Would be number 1 and number 2 heavies fighting each other

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 08:06

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 07:32

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 06:28
Wait, aren't you contradicting yourself? In one thread you are saying that AJ has zero power, in another one you are saying he will brutally KO Povetkin, who wasn't stopped even by a huge puncher like Wladimir Klitschko. And you are predicting that KO of Povetkin will be so brutal that he will leave the ring on the stretcher. So, does it mean that Povetkin's chin is made of glass?

And at first he was saying that Joshua is unlikely to stop Povetkin. He's a somewhat convincing troll, it's time to ignore him.

I never claimed Joshua is unlikely to stop Povetkin. I asked a question based on facts.

That's exactly what you claimed, in this thread.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 6#p4888516

Here, I'll even help you out.

Anthony Joshua isn't knocking out Alexander Povetkin. Unless the fight is stopped on cuts or on a premature stoppage (like against Carlos Takam).

It's more likely Povetkin stops Joshua due to Joshua gassing, rather than Joshua knocking out Povetkin. Otherwise, the most likely outcome is that this fight lasts the distance as it did against Parker and should've against Takam. And Parker didn't come to survive. Parker landed plenty of punches, especially to the body. Whilst Joshua was holding incessantly.

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 09:02

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 08:06

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 07:32
And at first he was saying that Joshua is unlikely to stop Povetkin. He's a somewhat convincing troll, it's time to ignore him.

I never claimed Joshua is unlikely to stop Povetkin. I asked a question based on facts.

That's exactly what you claimed, in this thread.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 6#p4888516

Here, I'll even help you out.

Anthony Joshua isn't knocking out Alexander Povetkin. Unless the fight is stopped on cuts or on a premature stoppage (like against Carlos Takam).

It's more likely Povetkin stops Joshua due to Joshua gassing, rather than Joshua knocking out Povetkin. Otherwise, the most likely outcome is that this fight lasts the distance as it did against Parker and should've against Takam. And Parker didn't come to survive. Parker landed plenty of punches, especially to the body. Whilst Joshua was holding incessantly.

This guys is a troll of the highest levels.

Here is his quote from THIS thread:

Deontay Wilder is going to totally butcher Anthony Joshua. It'd be close to a mismatch! Wilder is a GENUINE knockout artist with GENUINE knockout power, unlike Anthony Joshua. He is able to put his opponents to sleep and into a state of unconsciousness unlike Anthony Joshua. Joshua is practically a feather fisted girl, if compared to Wilder when it comes to punching power.

And here is his recent quote from Boxing Forum 24 in the thread named "How will AJ handle Wilder's windmills?":

Like how Johan Duhaupas did. He took all of Wilder's overrated windmills like they were nothing whilst also walking right through them at times.

Duhaupas exposed Wilder's power as overrated, along with his other boxing abilities. Duhaupas out-boxed, out-jabbed and at times, outclassed Wilder. The fight was dead even at the time of the premature stoppage.

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 09:44

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 09:02

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 08:06

I never claimed Joshua is unlikely to stop Povetkin. I asked a question based on facts.

That's exactly what you claimed, in this thread.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 6#p4888516

Here, I'll even help you out.

Anthony Joshua isn't knocking out Alexander Povetkin. Unless the fight is stopped on cuts or on a premature stoppage (like against Carlos Takam).

It's more likely Povetkin stops Joshua due to Joshua gassing, rather than Joshua knocking out Povetkin. Otherwise, the most likely outcome is that this fight lasts the distance as it did against Parker and should've against Takam. And Parker didn't come to survive. Parker landed plenty of punches, especially to the body. Whilst Joshua was holding incessantly.

This guys is a troll of the highest levels.

Here is his quote from THIS thread:

Deontay Wilder is going to totally butcher Anthony Joshua. It'd be close to a mismatch! Wilder is a GENUINE knockout artist with GENUINE knockout power, unlike Anthony Joshua. He is able to put his opponents to sleep and into a state of unconsciousness unlike Anthony Joshua. Joshua is practically a feather fisted girl, if compared to Wilder when it comes to punching power.

And here is his recent quote from Boxing Forum 24 in the thread named "How will AJ handle Wilder's windmills?":

Like how Johan Duhaupas did. He took all of Wilder's overrated windmills like they were nothing whilst also walking right through them at times.

Duhaupas exposed Wilder's power as overrated, along with his other boxing abilities. Duhaupas out-boxed, out-jabbed and at times, outclassed Wilder. The fight was dead even at the time of the premature stoppage.

I guess this is some people's idea of fun. Either that or the guy has a split personality!

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 09:02

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 08:06

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 07:32
And at first he was saying that Joshua is unlikely to stop Povetkin. He's a somewhat convincing troll, it's time to ignore him.

I never claimed Joshua is unlikely to stop Povetkin. I asked a question based on facts.

That's exactly what you claimed, in this thread.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 6#p4888516

Here, I'll even help you out.

Anthony Joshua isn't knocking out Alexander Povetkin. Unless the fight is stopped on cuts or on a premature stoppage (like against Carlos Takam).

It's more likely Povetkin stops Joshua due to Joshua gassing, rather than Joshua knocking out Povetkin. Otherwise, the most likely outcome is that this fight lasts the distance as it did against Parker and should've against Takam. And Parker didn't come to survive. Parker landed plenty of punches, especially to the body. Whilst Joshua was holding incessantly.

Fair enough! I changed my prediction since then. Having thought about it properly, I genuinely don't think any boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 inches would be favorite to beat or would have much of a chance at beating modern elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury, Wladimir Klitschko and Vitali Klitschko. The only exceptions are short heavyweights who are naturally +240 pounds themselves in terms of functional weight and not unhealthy weight.

There's no room for short / small heavyweights like Alexander Povetkin anymore at the elite level of the current / modern heavyweight division. They're better off competing at cruiser weight or light heavyweight divisions. Whilst leaving the super heavyweights to fight among each other.

Just my honest opinion!

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 09:44

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 09:02

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 08:06

I never claimed Joshua is unlikely to stop Povetkin. I asked a question based on facts.

That's exactly what you claimed, in this thread.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 6#p4888516

Here, I'll even help you out.

Anthony Joshua isn't knocking out Alexander Povetkin. Unless the fight is stopped on cuts or on a premature stoppage (like against Carlos Takam).

It's more likely Povetkin stops Joshua due to Joshua gassing, rather than Joshua knocking out Povetkin. Otherwise, the most likely outcome is that this fight lasts the distance as it did against Parker and should've against Takam. And Parker didn't come to survive. Parker landed plenty of punches, especially to the body. Whilst Joshua was holding incessantly.

This guys is a troll of the highest levels.

Here is his quote from THIS thread:

Deontay Wilder is going to totally butcher Anthony Joshua. It'd be close to a mismatch! Wilder is a GENUINE knockout artist with GENUINE knockout power, unlike Anthony Joshua. He is able to put his opponents to sleep and into a state of unconsciousness unlike Anthony Joshua. Joshua is practically a feather fisted girl, if compared to Wilder when it comes to punching power.

And here is his recent quote from Boxing Forum 24 in the thread named "How will AJ handle Wilder's windmills?":

Like how Johan Duhaupas did. He took all of Wilder's overrated windmills like they were nothing whilst also walking right through them at times.

Duhaupas exposed Wilder's power as overrated, along with his other boxing abilities. Duhaupas out-boxed, out-jabbed and at times, outclassed Wilder. The fight was dead even at the time of the premature stoppage.

Wilder's power is overrated. No doubt! But it's still far greater than Anthony Joshua's and is still far more legitimate than Anthony Joshua's.

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 10:27

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 09:02

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 08:06

I never claimed Joshua is unlikely to stop Povetkin. I asked a question based on facts.

That's exactly what you claimed, in this thread.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 6#p4888516

Here, I'll even help you out.

Anthony Joshua isn't knocking out Alexander Povetkin. Unless the fight is stopped on cuts or on a premature stoppage (like against Carlos Takam).

It's more likely Povetkin stops Joshua due to Joshua gassing, rather than Joshua knocking out Povetkin. Otherwise, the most likely outcome is that this fight lasts the distance as it did against Parker and should've against Takam. And Parker didn't come to survive. Parker landed plenty of punches, especially to the body. Whilst Joshua was holding incessantly.

Fair enough! I changed my prediction since then. Having thought about it properly, I genuinely don't think any boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 inches would be favorite to beat or would have much of a chance at beating modern elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury, Wladimir Klitschko and Vitali Klitschko. The only exceptions are short heavyweights who are naturally +240 pounds themselves in terms of functional weight and not unhealthy weight.

There's no room for short / small heavyweights like Alexander Povetkin anymore at the elite level of the current / modern heavyweight division. They're better off competing at cruiser weight or light heavyweight divisions. Whilst leaving the super heavyweights to fight among each other.

Just my honest opinion!

You changed your opinion totally since the post you put up 3 hours earlier

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 10:52

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 10:27

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 09:02

That's exactly what you claimed, in this thread.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 6#p4888516

Here, I'll even help you out.

Fair enough! I changed my prediction since then. Having thought about it properly, I genuinely don't think any boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 inches would be favorite to beat or would have much of a chance at beating modern elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury, Wladimir Klitschko and Vitali Klitschko. The only exceptions are short heavyweights who are naturally +240 pounds themselves in terms of functional weight and not unhealthy weight.

There's no room for short / small heavyweights like Alexander Povetkin anymore at the elite level of the current / modern heavyweight division. They're better off competing at cruiser weight or light heavyweight divisions. Whilst leaving the super heavyweights to fight among each other.

Just my honest opinion!

You changed your opinion totally since the post you put up 3 hours earlier

That post you quoted of mine was weeks age.

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 10:59

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 10:52

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 10:27

Fair enough! I changed my prediction since then. Having thought about it properly, I genuinely don't think any boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 inches would be favorite to beat or would have much of a chance at beating modern elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury, Wladimir Klitschko and Vitali Klitschko. The only exceptions are short heavyweights who are naturally +240 pounds themselves in terms of functional weight and not unhealthy weight.

There's no room for short / small heavyweights like Alexander Povetkin anymore at the elite level of the current / modern heavyweight division. They're better off competing at cruiser weight or light heavyweight divisions. Whilst leaving the super heavyweights to fight among each other.

Just my honest opinion!

You changed your opinion totally since the post you put up 3 hours earlier

That post you quoted of mine was weeks age.

Yes, you presented your opinion that Joshua wouldn't be able to stop Povetkin in the morning, then by the early afternoon you were of the persuasion that Joshua would brutally annihilate Povetkin

Although it was April 1 so more fool me?

I think it would be a poor show if they lost any purse bids and then vacated the belt as I'm sure any bid that topped Hearns bid would be pretty good money as he won't bid low as he wants to keep his guy at home.

If the money is good enough to win the purse bid then a champion should be willing to go away from home to retain his belts. That's how great champions are made and remembered. Most of the greats fought away from home at some point or another.

Why doesn't anyone discuss the fact that Joshua hasn't fought outside England yet? I find that interesting, considering he's a WORLD champion. Just a point.