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Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 09 Jun 2018, 07:39
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 09 Jun 2018, 10:22
by skanksta
Boxerbeetle wrote: 07 Jun 2018, 17:01
leejonesjnr wrote: 07 Jun 2018, 16:41 I am used to people complaining about PPVs now and realise that no matter what some people will always ‘steal’ via streams etc but a man that isn’t willing to pay to see this contest isn’t a boxing fan.
Does anyone here think that tickets to attend the show live should be free?
Wtf? Most of us already pay for Sky Sports + B0xnati0n purely for the boxing coverage - are we supposed to be happy that we have to shell out even more for this? Or do you think that all boxing should be on PPV, and us humble fans should just be grateful, despite no other sports in the UK even doing PPV?
This x2.
I pay a small fortune for Sky AND BN/BT Sport every month. I STILL have to watch adverts EVEN during fights - when you should be getting all the extra drama/atmosphere/betting clues from the corner work. Then we have to accept that the really big fights are PPV on top of this. I CAN accept paying again for (say) AJ vs Fury @ Wembley, Canelo vs GGG - the huge stadium events between absolute top P4P stars...
BUT NOT FOR WHYTE Vs PARKER !! :brick: :witzend:

This is a good fight, I wanna see it - I'm sure anyone that comes on this forum does, but its NOT PPV.
It just isn't.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 13 Jun 2018, 09:32
by Taansend
I see Joshua Buatsi is fighting Ricky Summers on this bill. Very good matchmaking.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 13 Jun 2018, 10:19
by ILikeBeer
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Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 13 Jun 2018, 10:23
by Taansend
ILikeBeer wrote: 13 Jun 2018, 10:19 Image
The bird on the right looks a bit like Christopher Lambert from Highlander

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Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 13 Jun 2018, 10:30
by chrisnew86
leejonesjnr wrote: 07 Jun 2018, 16:41 I am used to people complaining about PPVs now and realise that no matter what some people will always ‘steal’ via streams etc but a man that isn’t willing to pay to see this contest isn’t a boxing fan.
Does anyone here think that tickets to attend the show live should be free?
Bizarre, we already do pay for our sports subscriptions ?? This isn't even a mega money fight where you feel both fighters need paying millions upon millions for it to happen.

Complete joke of a PPV fight in my opinion, will I pay for it probably but I will feel a bit ripped considering Sky Sports isn't cheap what so ever and this is an extra

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 13 Jun 2018, 13:26
by magnus
Whyte vs Parker could have been a vaguely acceptable PPV with a strong undercard.

This is very poor so far.

The Benn and Buatsi fights are NextGen stuff (nothing wrong with that, if they were at York Hall on a Wednesday night).

I find it hard to get excited about any Katie Taylor fights.

Hearn said Brook's next opponent would be "somewhere inbetween Rabchenko and Hurd" - Cook is worse than Rabchenko (imo).


I'm not going to be rushing to throw a twenty at Eddie.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 13 Jun 2018, 14:37
by ElJefe
magnus wrote: 13 Jun 2018, 13:26 Whyte vs Parker could have been a vaguely acceptable PPV with a strong undercard.

This is very poor so far.

The Benn and Buatsi fights are NextGen stuff (nothing wrong with that, if they were at York Hall on a Wednesday night).

I find it hard to get excited about any Katie Taylor fights.

Hearn said Brook's next opponent would be "somewhere inbetween Rabchenko and Hurd" - Cook is worse than Rabchenko (imo).


I'm not going to be rushing to throw a twenty at Eddie.
Completely agree. Hearn always used to say the only events that will be PPV will be the ones that can't get put together without it. Whyte and Parker probably command decent money, but I'm not having that PPV is needed to put on the other fights. As you said, not saying that Buatsi/Summers and Benn/Peynaud won't be good fights, but PPV just isn't needed.

What happened to the huge money generated by the Joshua fights being re-invested into Saturday Fight Nights? How many world title fights have we had on normal Sky Sports this year? And by that I mean Matchroom shows in the UK, not the international content.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 14 Jun 2018, 07:36
by TheCobra
I've bought some crap PPVs in my time but I'm not gona lower myself to this one. That undercard looks cobbled together. Lazy from Hearn, he's getting complacent methinks.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 13:52
by Taansend

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 15:16
by Nightmare Roy
It'll probably sell out and do amazing numbers on PPV I follow Hearn/Matchroom on FB and if you read the comments it's like a cult "Thanks Eddie amazing value" "wow what a stacked card" etc etc, Thanking him for charging them a score after they allready pay £40 a month for sky sports. There are some real divs out there, for me it's a fcuking joke, I remember watching Eubank Benn and a host of other great fights for free on ITV.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 16:13
by KiwiRider
Nightmare Roy wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 15:16 It'll probably sell out and do amazing numbers on PPV I follow Hearn/Matchroom on FB and if you read the comments it's like a cult "Thanks Eddie amazing value" "wow what a stacked card" etc etc, Thanking him for charging them a score after they allready pay £40 a month for sky sports. There are some real divs out there, for me it's a fcuking joke, I remember watching Eubank Benn and a host of other great fights for free on ITV.
I get suspicious about Facebook comments relating to big business. Especially when they slavishly endorse things no real people would. Saying that, selling so many tickets already might contradict my views. We shall have to wait and see what the numbers are for the PPV.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 16:20
by Boxerbeetle
ElJefe wrote: 13 Jun 2018, 14:37
magnus wrote: 13 Jun 2018, 13:26 Whyte vs Parker could have been a vaguely acceptable PPV with a strong undercard.

This is very poor so far.

The Benn and Buatsi fights are NextGen stuff (nothing wrong with that, if they were at York Hall on a Wednesday night).

I find it hard to get excited about any Katie Taylor fights.

Hearn said Brook's next opponent would be "somewhere inbetween Rabchenko and Hurd" - Cook is worse than Rabchenko (imo).


I'm not going to be rushing to throw a twenty at Eddie.
Completely agree. Hearn always used to say the only events that will be PPV will be the ones that can't get put together without it. Whyte and Parker probably command decent money, but I'm not having that PPV is needed to put on the other fights. As you said, not saying that Buatsi/Summers and Benn/Peynaud won't be good fights, but PPV just isn't needed.

What happened to the huge money generated by the Joshua fights being re-invested into Saturday Fight Nights? How many world title fights have we had on normal Sky Sports this year? And by that I mean Matchroom shows in the UK, not the international content.
Cleverly-Bellew was the turning point for Hearn; it was the first PPV he put on that was frankly garbage and everyone knew it. There was zero need to make that PPV except greed. But people bought it, which opened the floodgates.

I even started a thread trying to arrange a mass boycott of Sky Sports because of it, but I think I only got about 2 replies :lol:

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 23 Jun 2018, 08:04
by Ruthless-RKO


Based on that poster above, it seems like a stacked card.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 23 Jun 2018, 08:05
by Ruthless-RKO
Was just looking at this thread from April > viewtopic.php?f=9&t=221112&hilit=parker

I think a lot of people still believe Parker will win this.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 03:54
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 04:19
by keithmoonhangover
ElJefe wrote: 13 Jun 2018, 14:37
magnus wrote: 13 Jun 2018, 13:26 Whyte vs Parker could have been a vaguely acceptable PPV with a strong undercard.

This is very poor so far.

The Benn and Buatsi fights are NextGen stuff (nothing wrong with that, if they were at York Hall on a Wednesday night).

I find it hard to get excited about any Katie Taylor fights.

Hearn said Brook's next opponent would be "somewhere inbetween Rabchenko and Hurd" - Cook is worse than Rabchenko (imo).


I'm not going to be rushing to throw a twenty at Eddie.
Completely agree. Hearn always used to say the only events that will be PPV will be the ones that can't get put together without it.
There is no way in the world that this card could be put on without it.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 04:20
by 3132DW
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Jun 2018, 08:04

Based on that poster above, it seems like a stacked card.
Anthony Fowler and Buglioni also fighting on the card - Buglioni in an 8 rounder.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 04:23
by Boxerbeetle
keithmoonhangover wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 04:19
ElJefe wrote: 13 Jun 2018, 14:37
magnus wrote: 13 Jun 2018, 13:26 Whyte vs Parker could have been a vaguely acceptable PPV with a strong undercard.

This is very poor so far.

The Benn and Buatsi fights are NextGen stuff (nothing wrong with that, if they were at York Hall on a Wednesday night).

I find it hard to get excited about any Katie Taylor fights.

Hearn said Brook's next opponent would be "somewhere inbetween Rabchenko and Hurd" - Cook is worse than Rabchenko (imo).


I'm not going to be rushing to throw a twenty at Eddie.
Completely agree. Hearn always used to say the only events that will be PPV will be the ones that can't get put together without it.
There is no way in the world that this card could be put on without it.
Exactly the same false argument used for Cleverly-Bellew 2 - ‘stack’ the card and then claim PPV is the only option. Completely disingenuous. The fights should simply be spread over 2 or 3 regular Saturday fight nights (which Hearn seems to be struggling to put on as it is).

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 04:28
by keithmoonhangover
Boxerbeetle wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 04:23
keithmoonhangover wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 04:19
ElJefe wrote: 13 Jun 2018, 14:37

Completely agree. Hearn always used to say the only events that will be PPV will be the ones that can't get put together without it.
There is no way in the world that this card could be put on without it.
Exactly the same false argument used for Cleverly-Bellew 2 - ‘stack’ the card and then claim PPV is the only option. Completely disingenuous. The fights should simply be spread over 2 or 3 regular Saturday fight nights (which Hearn seems to be struggling to put on as it is).
It's not a false argument, it's a fact. Did you pay for Clev-Bellew 2?

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 04:50
by Boxerbeetle
keithmoonhangover wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 04:28
Boxerbeetle wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 04:23
keithmoonhangover wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 04:19

There is no way in the world that this card could be put on without it.
Exactly the same false argument used for Cleverly-Bellew 2 - ‘stack’ the card and then claim PPV is the only option. Completely disingenuous. The fights should simply be spread over 2 or 3 regular Saturday fight nights (which Hearn seems to be struggling to put on as it is).
It's not a false argument, it's a fact. Did you pay for Clev-Bellew 2?
No, I streamed it. I’ve bought plenty of PPVs over the years, but there was no chance of me buying that cynical cash-grab.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 06:10
by mickey1975
Why not separate the card over a few regular nights. Dillian-Parker is a good fight, but ppv? Amazing.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 06:32
by KiwiRider
Meh, I'm gonna get the PPV. I've paid for lesser cards. I like at least 3 of the fights, an I've paid to watch 2 good ones on a card in the past.
You'se poms stop yer whining eh?
Ya might end up getting a reputation for it :lol:

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 07:07
by coneye
Hearn keeps saying these fights tke mega money , so need to be ppv , Yet he still says you got to build these fighters up ,, Mmmm m thinks if he stops pissing in earholes and telling them there worth millions , then they may acept 1-200, 000 dollars instead of demanding millions ,

Thre really not that good , some will buy it , I certainly would'nt

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker - 28 July 2018

Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 08:41
by keirw
KiwiRider wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 06:32 Meh, I'm gonna get the PPV. I've paid for lesser cards. I like at least 3 of the fights, an I've paid to watch 2 good ones on a card in the past.
You'se poms stop yer whining eh?
Ya might end up getting a reputation for it :lol:
We prefer to think of it as moaning, rather than whining.