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Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 21:38
by Susej_SOG
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 21:31 So am I to understand you are a formerly banned poster that has returned?
Nooo!

Im a boxing fan from México.

And I did not say anything bad about Usyk, i like him, and he fought with the best in his division but you need to understand the reality, cruiserweight is a weak división, and their champions are not good fighters B class , being generous

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 21:40
by gilgamesh
So you're telling me this is your view of the Cruiserweight division regardless of the fighters who happen to be occupying the division at any given time. You take no note of individual ability, but merely paint the Cruiserweights with a broad brush as B level fighters at all times?

Fact is every weight class has good eras, and bad eras of fighters within it. It comes in waves. Right now the Cruiserweight tide is high.

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 21:44
by Onetimeonly
When did tr sign melindo? Sure it wasn't just one fight?

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 21:45
by Susej_SOG
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 21:40 So you're telling me this is your view of the Cruiserweight division regardless of the fighters who happen to be occupying the division at any given time. You take no note of individual ability, but merely paint the Cruiserweights with a broad brush as B level fighters at all times?

Fact is every weight class has good eras, and bad eras of fighters within it. It comes in waves. Right now the Cruiserweight tide is high.
Nope.

For example, Gassiev, i see a guy that fights in a slow motion, that does not have good defense and that never fought with a good rival.

Dorticos? Probably the weakest cuban champion in recent years, with a bad defense too. Something strange in fighters from Cuba

Glowacki and Huck are not good boxers, does not have skills, great power, great stamina or aggressive style with heart.

Nothing special.

Bellew? Some good skills, but nothing great, normal power, mediocre chin, terrible stamina.

If this is a Golden age to cruiserweight, well, that say all..

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 21:47
by Susej_SOG
Onetimeonly wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 21:44 When did tr sign melindo? Sure it wasn't just one fight?
They were co-promoters of Melindo, with ALAS Promotions.

Arum was very interested in Melindo before and after the Estrada fight, of fact, Arum supports a lot the young talent from Filipinas.

The point was that he was the A side vs Estrada in that fight in China

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 21:47
by jamamb
Onetimeonly wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 21:44 When did tr sign melindo? Sure it wasn't just one fight?
cant find anything about melindo being a top rank fighter and his involvment with them seems limited to being on those arum shows that estrada himself was on

its hardly as if top rank wont openly push guys they do sign and are hot about , but i really doubt they cared much about melindo. china was huge on him apparently though, mustve been those good looks :lol:

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 21:52
by Susej_SOG
jamamb wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 21:47 cant find anything about melindo being a top rank fighter and his involvment with them seems limited to being on those arum shows that estrada himself was on

its hardly as if top rank wont openly push guys they do sign and are hot about , but i really doubt they cared much about melindo. china was huge on him apparently though, mustve been those good looks :lol:
Yeah, thats the reason why Melindo fought in Top Rank cards before Estrada...

Melindo fought in that card of Viloria vs Estrada.

Andy Ruiz too, but yeah, it was a coincidence, just that...

Lol

And he has the crowd to his favor and the support of Arum in the fight vs Estrada

Just that.

A Smart guy can understand this.

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 21:54
by Susej_SOG
jamamb wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 21:47 cant find anything about melindo being a top rank fighter and his involvment with them seems limited to being on those arum shows that estrada himself was on
Estrada was the #1 in wbo rankings thatsthe reason why he fought vs Viloria.

Melindo fought in shows of Arum before the fight vs Estrada .

Lucky boy...

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 21:56
by gilgamesh
Susej_SOG wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 21:52 Yeah, thats the reason why Melindo fought in Top Rank cards before Estrada...

Melindo fought in that card of Viloria vs Estrada.

Andy Ruiz too, but yeah, it was a coincidence, just that...

Lol

And he has the crowd to his favor and the support of Arum in the fight vs Estrada

Just that.

A Smart guy can understand this.
So you're saying you don't get it then?

Walk right in...sit right down...Gil is gonna make you the fool :OhYes:

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 21:56
by lazboy
Was the Jamaican Mike McCallum living/training in The USA? If not, he’d be a candidate.

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:01
by victor-romeo
Azumah Nelson, Glen Johnson, Harold Brazier?

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:02
by Susej_SOG
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 21:56 So you're saying you don't get it then?

Walk right in...sit right down...Gil is gonna make you the fool :OhYes:
I understand this, is your friend that is debating me that Estrada was the A side in China in a show of Arum, against a fighter that was co-promoted by Arum, and, another fact: they tried to fu.ck Estrada in the fight vs Viloria (a judge gave the fight to Viloria when he was almost K.Od).

But well .

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:05
by jamamb
melindo (btw who was also mandatory) wasnt promoted by top rank any more then estrada was, but i hear all of china was crazy about milan though :lol:

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:06
by gilgamesh
Are you referring to jamamb? I'm aware of him a poster, but I don't know that I'd consider him a friend exactly. I'd think he'd say the same.

This is more about me perceiving you as a douche, and approaching my interactions with you as such :lol:

You can redeem yourself at a later time of course, but your posts here...NOT YOUR NIGHT

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:07
by jamamb
hey sus, you said you have a youtube channel , can you give boxrec a shoutout and get all your followers discussing what they think about this thread, i mean since you have this channel why not :yay:

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:12
by oogiebe
Who is this Susie-Q and what is he blathering about?

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:14
by gilgamesh
Let me bring you up to speed...Acosta is better than Breidis....I eat Ketchup on Steak....Chocolate Milk goes good with Peanut Butter and Jelly...I have a Youtube page....Cruiserweights are not has been as good as other weights...

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:19
by Susej_SOG
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 22:14 Let me bring you up to speed...Acosta is better than Breidis....I eat Ketchup on Steak....Chocolate Milk goes good with Peanut Butter and Jelly...I have a Youtube page....Cruiserweights are not has been as good as other weights...
are facts.

Best wins of Breidis are Mike Pérez, and guys from Bosnia and Letonia. He has 35 years old, Acosta is a monster talking about power punch, he is younger and he will be champion sooner or later.

And yeah, all the world knows that cruiserweight is a very weak division.

Ah, and you are saying in another thread that Pacquiao hits hardest than a big welterweight like Keith Thurman

Lol

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:22
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 22:14 Let me bring you up to speed...Acosta is better than Breidis....I eat Ketchup on Steak....Chocolate Milk goes good with Peanut Butter and Jelly...I have a Youtube page....Cruiserweights are not has been as good as other weights...
Truly Fascinating. One question. Do you really eat ketchup on steak?

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:23
by oogiebe
Susej_SOG wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 22:19 are facts.

Best wins of Breidis are Mike Pérez, and guys from Bosnia and Letonia. He has 35 years old, Acosta is a monster talking about power punch, he is younger and he will be champion sooner or later.

And yeah, all the world knows that cruiserweight is a very weak division.

Ah, and you are saying in another thread that Pacquiao hits hardest than a big welterweight like Keith Thurman

Lol
Why are you here?

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:23
by jamamb
oogiebe wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 22:22 Truly Fascinating. One question. Do you really eat ketchup on steak?
tbh id say ketchup on steak can be good, but it depends on the steak and how much ketchup. best way would be to have a side of it ready just in case

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:25
by gilgamesh
oogiebe wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 22:22 Truly Fascinating. One question. Do you really eat ketchup on steak?
No. Hence the joke. It's kinda a 5 year old thing to do. Similar to his arguments.

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:26
by jamamb
disagree, id say theres nothing inherently childish about it,

like as well, lets say your steak is really lacking flavor for whatevver reason, maybe missed the spices, can a bit of ketchy not help with that?

im not saying lather every slab with the red stuff, but having it prepared just in case is wise

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:27
by Susej_SOG
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 22:25 No. Hence the joke. It's kinda a 5 year old thing to do. As is his arguments.
Your arguments were "Huck was too good because he had like 50 title defenses", yeah, Narváez did the same and he is not on a top-20 of the 112, and never was near of a top-30.

But well, im talking about boxing with a guy that thinks Pacquiao (40 years old version) hits harder than Thurman that probably will be fighting in 154 next year

Re: Best road warrior resume of all time?

Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:28
by gilgamesh
jamamb wrote: 22 Jun 2019, 22:26 disagree, id say theres nothing inherently childish about it,

like as well, lets say your steak is really lacking flavor for whatevver reason, maybe missed the spices, can a bit of ketchy not help with that?

im not saying lather every slab with the red stuff, but having it prepared just in case is wise
I mean it's just a taste thing. Doesn't make you a bad person to like Ketchup on steak, I just can't for the life of me imagine why anybody would :lol:

If I had a steak that was so sh*tty I thought it could be made better with Ketchup, I wouldn't eat it.