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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 04:24
by Terry Dooley
TheLeprechaun wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 02:43
Terry Dooley wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 06:54 I'm going for Fury on points. Wilder will overthink it, try to box early and get out-boxed.
If fury has his way the fight will be 10 times more boring than his fight with Wlad, which went down as the worst heavyweight title fight in history. Absolutely dismal to watch. For the sake of the sport I hope wilder cleans him out and I'm pretty sure he will.
Most would go for winning ugly over losing in spectacular fashion. Wilder could be a perfect foil for Fury in the build-up if Fury plays it right. I agree, it could be almost an exact replica of the Klitschko fight both in and out of the ring, but the main thing for both is getting the win and securing a rematch. In theory Fury-Wilder could leave Joshua in danger as he will have to tread water for a year, and that is always a danger in boxing in general and this division in particular.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 05:24
by TheLeprechaun
Terry Dooley wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 04:24
TheLeprechaun wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 02:43
Terry Dooley wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 06:54 I'm going for Fury on points. Wilder will overthink it, try to box early and get out-boxed.
If fury has his way the fight will be 10 times more boring than his fight with Wlad, which went down as the worst heavyweight title fight in history. Absolutely dismal to watch. For the sake of the sport I hope wilder cleans him out and I'm pretty sure he will.
Most would go for winning ugly over losing in spectacular fashion. Wilder could be a perfect foil for Fury in the build-up if Fury plays it right. I agree, it could be almost an exact replica of the Klitschko fight both in and out of the ring, but the main thing for both is getting the win and securing a rematch. In theory Fury-Wilder could leave Joshua in danger as he will have to tread water for a year, and that is always a danger in boxing in general and this division in particular.
I'm not an accountant or family member of fury's. I would rather see exciting fights than seeing him stinking out a joint for 12 rounds then acting the hard man after the fight. You'd think he starched wlad inside a round the way he goes on. In fact he put on one of he most boring displays and I would have been delighted if he lost, as I was was lewis and holyfield drew their first fight. At least you can say lewis was robbed there. Fury was fortunate to get the fight in Germany with a display like that after all his behaviour and talk pre fight.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 05:35
by Ezzard
I think Wilder will win despite losing every round in which he doesn't score a knockdown.

The more success Wilder's opponents have the more liekly they are to get KO'd. Be great to see Fury win. But both guys bring something to the sport.

Having tipped Wilder to win it's easy to imagine Fury sneaking over the finish line and winning the fight.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 05:41
by Terry Dooley
TheLeprechaun wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 05:24
Terry Dooley wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 04:24
TheLeprechaun wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 02:43

If fury has his way the fight will be 10 times more boring than his fight with Wlad, which went down as the worst heavyweight title fight in history. Absolutely dismal to watch. For the sake of the sport I hope wilder cleans him out and I'm pretty sure he will.
Most would go for winning ugly over losing in spectacular fashion. Wilder could be a perfect foil for Fury in the build-up if Fury plays it right. I agree, it could be almost an exact replica of the Klitschko fight both in and out of the ring, but the main thing for both is getting the win and securing a rematch. In theory Fury-Wilder could leave Joshua in danger as he will have to tread water for a year, and that is always a danger in boxing in general and this division in particular.
I'm not an accountant or family member of fury's. I would rather see exciting fights than seeing him stinking out a joint for 12 rounds then acting the hard man after the fight. You'd think he starched wlad inside a round the way he goes on. In fact he put on one of he most boring displays and I would have been delighted if he lost, as I was was lewis and holyfield drew their first fight. At least you can say lewis was robbed there. Fury was fortunate to get the fight in Germany with a display like that after all his behaviour and talk pre fight.
It was arguably his pre-fight talk and behaviour that contributed to the win. Klitschko was totally out-played by Fury.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 10:54
by mickey1975
I know loads of lads who drink with Tyson whenever Issac Lowe fights and they say he hardly mentions boxing.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 25 Aug 2018, 05:18
by fanman
fury is the the better boxer for piling up points. but how sharp is he now? wilder must be at his peak, and would be a danger at any point. i think fury can outbox him, as we have seen lesser boxers do so at times. but will have to maintain maximum focus for 12, as he did against vlad.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 30 Aug 2018, 05:26
by Ruthless-RKO
Fury has said he's signed the contract.


Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 05:40
by Ruthless-RKO
Tyson Fury has no US boxing licence ahead of Deontay Wilder fight

Tyson Fury is not yet licensed to box in New York or Las Vegas, despite his plan to challenge Deontay Wilder, Sky Sports can reveal.

Fury, the former world heavyweight champion, would need to have an application for a licence accepted before he could fight in those states - a process which has yet to start.

Fury and WBC champion Wilder signalled their intention to meet in a grandstand bout this year but, at the moment, no date or location has been confirmed.

The consensus is that they would collide in Wilder's home country, the United States, because the fight would be a voluntary defence of his belt.

But the Nevada State Athletic Commission and New York State Athletic Commission, responsible for the two likeliest locations, have confirmed to Sky Sports that Fury has not applied for a licence.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 11:13
by Ruthless-RKO
allegedly Lets Rip At Sky Sports Boxing In 4 Point Statement

"As of today, Povetkin is not cleared by the local commission to box yet in the UK for the AJ [Joshua] PPV in 3 weeks time," Warren stated.

allegedly has stated that Anthony Joshua's next opponent - Povetkin - has yet to be granted a license in the UK.

"All 3 boxers will get licenses but this type of journalism is embarrassing, lazy, unprofessional and so poor it verges on being funny."

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 11:39
by keithmoonhangover
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 11:13 allegedly Lets Rip At Sky Sports Boxing In 4 Point Statement

"As of today, Povetkin is not cleared by the local commission to box yet in the UK for the AJ [Joshua] PPV in 3 weeks time," Warren stated.

allegedly has stated that Anthony Joshua's next opponent - Povetkin - has yet to be granted a license in the UK.

"All 3 boxers will get licenses but this type of journalism is embarrassing, lazy, unprofessional and so poor it verges on being funny."
Fwank's on his period because it ain't the done deal he said it was.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 12:18
by Ruthless-RKO
keithmoonhangover wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 11:39
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 11:13 allegedly Lets Rip At Sky Sports Boxing In 4 Point Statement

"As of today, Povetkin is not cleared by the local commission to box yet in the UK for the AJ [Joshua] PPV in 3 weeks time," Warren stated.

allegedly has stated that Anthony Joshua's next opponent - Povetkin - has yet to be granted a license in the UK.

"All 3 boxers will get licenses but this type of journalism is embarrassing, lazy, unprofessional and so poor it verges on being funny."
Fwank's on his period because it ain't the done deal he said it was.
But he's right though.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 12:25
by keithmoonhangover
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 12:18
keithmoonhangover wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 11:39
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 11:13 allegedly Lets Rip At Sky Sports Boxing In 4 Point Statement

"As of today, Povetkin is not cleared by the local commission to box yet in the UK for the AJ [Joshua] PPV in 3 weeks time," Warren stated.

allegedly has stated that Anthony Joshua's next opponent - Povetkin - has yet to be granted a license in the UK.

"All 3 boxers will get licenses but this type of journalism is embarrassing, lazy, unprofessional and so poor it verges on being funny."
Fwank's on his period because it ain't the done deal he said it was.
But he's right though.
I agree mate, but it ain't fake news, SKY are just stating a fact.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 12:29
by Ruthless-RKO
keithmoonhangover wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 12:25
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 12:18
keithmoonhangover wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 11:39

Fwank's on his period because it ain't the done deal he said it was.
But he's right though.
I agree mate, but it ain't fake news, SKY are just stating a fact.
Yeh, they state the New York and Nevada commissions told them. What we don't know is if Sky had asked them in the first place.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 14:41
by punchers chance
I don't understand why this fight has not been confirmed when both UK and US broadcasters issued press releases saying "It's On" two weeks ago.

Anyone know what the problem is?

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 16:20
by keithmoonhangover
punchers chance wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 14:41 I don't understand why this fight has not been confirmed when both UK and US broadcasters issued press releases saying "It's On" two weeks ago.

Anyone know what the problem is?
Date and venue still not in place. Fury's cousin told me that he is having disagreements with MTK.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 16:29
by Counter-puncher
keithmoonhangover wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 16:20
punchers chance wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 14:41 I don't understand why this fight has not been confirmed when both UK and US broadcasters issued press releases saying "It's On" two weeks ago.

Anyone know what the problem is?
Date and venue still not in place. Fury's cousin told me that he is having disagreements with MTK.
Oh to be a fly on the wall of those negotiations

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 20:26
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 22:52
by jamamb
well even weeks ago fury and warren were saying stuff like its been super easy to make and is pretty much done--i think fury even said its all done--and yet warren admits they dont even have a location yet? and thats after he said it would be announced last week, which it wasnt, meaning his word was incorrect

i mean, surely its understandable why some ppl would still be questioning whether it will happen this year. how often do we get fights officially announced be networks with 0 date or venue even weeks after the announcement?

clearly, this fights a bit unconvential

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 23:18
by Grilling Machine
If it happens, it happens. None of us has the right to demand every last detail, just the right to hope it all comes through.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 01 Sep 2018, 03:23
by maverick23
jamamb wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 22:52 well even weeks ago fury and warren were saying stuff like its been super easy to make and is pretty much done--i think fury even said its all done--and yet warren admits they dont even have a location yet? and thats after he said it would be announced last week, which it wasnt, meaning his word was incorrect

i mean, surely its understandable why some ppl would still be questioning whether it will happen this year. how often do we get fights officially announced be networks with 0 date or venue even weeks after the announcement?

clearly, this fights a bit unconvential
It’s one of the things that frustrates me with FW. He backs himself into a corner and it looks quite amateur after saying it was on and that it would be announced the following week that we still haven’t heard anything.

They could have built up the fight just as well in Belfast without announcing ‘It’s On’!

Eddie has a lot of faults but we he announces a fight (like with AJ v Klitschko) it has actually been signed.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 01 Sep 2018, 03:54
by Andrew
maverick23 wrote: 01 Sep 2018, 03:23
jamamb wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 22:52 well even weeks ago fury and warren were saying stuff like its been super easy to make and is pretty much done--i think fury even said its all done--and yet warren admits they dont even have a location yet? and thats after he said it would be announced last week, which it wasnt, meaning his word was incorrect

i mean, surely its understandable why some ppl would still be questioning whether it will happen this year. how often do we get fights officially announced be networks with 0 date or venue even weeks after the announcement?

clearly, this fights a bit unconvential
It’s one of the things that frustrates me with FW. He backs himself into a corner and it looks quite amateur after saying it was on and that it would be announced the following week that we still haven’t heard anything.

They could have built up the fight just as well in Belfast without announcing ‘It’s On’!

Eddie has a lot of faults but we he announces a fight (like with AJ v Klitschko) it has actually been signed.
I'm sure Hearn announced the date and venue for that the day after the Molina fight. That was when Wlad was ringside and they faced off.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 01 Sep 2018, 03:55
by Andrew
It's still poor both networks have said ITS ON with no date and venue. Just wait for it then announce.

If the date and venue is done then just put a press release or a tweet out. It's not rocket science.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 01 Sep 2018, 04:09
by lillywhite14
Counter-puncher wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 16:29
keithmoonhangover wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 16:20
punchers chance wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 14:41 I don't understand why this fight has not been confirmed when both UK and US broadcasters issued press releases saying "It's On" two weeks ago.

Anyone know what the problem is?
Date and venue still not in place. Fury's cousin told me that he is having disagreements with MTK.
Oh to be a fly on the wall of those negotiations
Fury swatting Irish drug dealers all over the place with a bit of luck!

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 01 Sep 2018, 04:37
by maverick23
Naandrew wrote: 01 Sep 2018, 03:54
maverick23 wrote: 01 Sep 2018, 03:23
jamamb wrote: 31 Aug 2018, 22:52 well even weeks ago fury and warren were saying stuff like its been super easy to make and is pretty much done--i think fury even said its all done--and yet warren admits they dont even have a location yet? and thats after he said it would be announced last week, which it wasnt, meaning his word was incorrect

i mean, surely its understandable why some ppl would still be questioning whether it will happen this year. how often do we get fights officially announced be networks with 0 date or venue even weeks after the announcement?

clearly, this fights a bit unconvential
It’s one of the things that frustrates me with FW. He backs himself into a corner and it looks quite amateur after saying it was on and that it would be announced the following week that we still haven’t heard anything.

They could have built up the fight just as well in Belfast without announcing ‘It’s On’!

Eddie has a lot of faults but we he announces a fight (like with AJ v Klitschko) it has actually been signed.
I'm sure Hearn announced the date and venue for that the day after the Molina fight. That was when Wlad was ringside and they faced off.
He announced the date and venue in the ring after the fight when Klitschko came in to the ring.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - TBC

Posted: 03 Sep 2018, 02:36
by Andrew
maverick23 wrote: 01 Sep 2018, 04:37
Naandrew wrote: 01 Sep 2018, 03:54
maverick23 wrote: 01 Sep 2018, 03:23

It’s one of the things that frustrates me with FW. He backs himself into a corner and it looks quite amateur after saying it was on and that it would be announced the following week that we still haven’t heard anything.

They could have built up the fight just as well in Belfast without announcing ‘It’s On’!

Eddie has a lot of faults but we he announces a fight (like with AJ v Klitschko) it has actually been signed.
I'm sure Hearn announced the date and venue for that the day after the Molina fight. That was when Wlad was ringside and they faced off.
He announced the date and venue in the ring after the fight when Klitschko came in to the ring.
:TU: can't remember exactly thought it may have been the Monday after the fight.

That's how it should be done.

If there's nothing this week I would start to be concerned.