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Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 20:11
by dagilechia
jamamb wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 20:09 szpilka even though hes actually still a young hw is not reacting well to punches. his brain was fried by wilder and then the kownacki beating and this fight dont help either. i imagine well see him ktfo again
yeah his chin was better before, vs Jennings his chin was tougher but back then he was already doing this:

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and this

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Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 20:15
by dagilechia
the action in round 6 looks like the exact replica of what happened in Kownacki vs Szpilka when Szpilka went down for the first time

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 20:15
by TempleSlave
Damn. With a chin like this and complete lack of speed Wach should just have just walked forward and throw shitloads of punches.

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 20:20
by dagilechia
TempleSlave wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 20:15 Damn. With a chin like this and complete lack of speed Wach should just have just walked forward and throw shitloads of punches.
yes, i still can't believe that he didn't knocked Szpilka out in round 10 (if he threw and uppercut when Szpilka had his head down, Wach would brutally knock him out), or in round 6 when he had Szpilka in the corner. he should try more aggresively, i doubt that he was too tired. Wach called it a robbery, Szpilka says it should be scored 97-92 for him, i think there will be a rematch.

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 20:38
by TempleSlave
dagilechia wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 20:20
TempleSlave wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 20:15 Damn. With a chin like this and complete lack of speed Wach should just have just walked forward and throw shitloads of punches.
yes, i still can't believe that he didn't knocked Szpilka out in round 10, or in round 6 when he had Szpilka in the corner. he should try more aggresively, i doubt that he was too tired. Wach called it a robbery, Szpilka says it should be scored 97-92 for him, i think there will be a rematch.
Just watched the 10th (dzięki ;-) ) - can’t believe how stupid and unprofessional Szpilka is. He belongs to hooligans’ group fights somewhere deep in the woods, not in the boxing ring. He’s got a bit of talent but is getting absolutely nowhere with that brickhead mentality. I’ve heard his coach Gmitruk apparently lost his shït completely when he saw Szpilka’s antics :lol:

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 20:47
by dagilechia
TempleSlave wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 20:38
dagilechia wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 20:20
TempleSlave wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 20:15 Damn. With a chin like this and complete lack of speed Wach should just have just walked forward and throw shitloads of punches.
yes, i still can't believe that he didn't knocked Szpilka out in round 10, or in round 6 when he had Szpilka in the corner. he should try more aggresively, i doubt that he was too tired. Wach called it a robbery, Szpilka says it should be scored 97-92 for him, i think there will be a rematch.
Just watched the 10th (dzięki ;-) ) - can’t believe how stupid and unprofessional Szpilka is. He belongs to hooligans’ group fights somewhere deep in the woods, not in the boxing ring. He’s got a bit of talent but is getting absolutely nowhere with that brickhead mentality. I’ve heard his coach Gmitruk apparently lost his shït completely when he saw Szpilka’s antics :lol:
:TU:

yeah, i have never seen Gmitruk as angry as after round 6, he was very angry also after round 10.

Szpilka doesn't belongs to hooligan groups anymore. Szpilka comes from Wieliczka, which is a small town near Kraków, and he was a fan of football team called Wisła Kraków. but Wisła Kraków fans that belong to the hooligan group called ''Wisła Sharks'' published some years ago a statement in which they stated that Szpilka must be treated like an enemy, like a fan of Cracovia, and that they will ''hunt'' for him in Kraków (Kraków is the only city in Poland where football hooligans use machetes, knifes etc and generally Sharks are rather a drug dealing gang than football hooligans) - it's because Szpilka had contacts and friends in other groups of fans (including the main rival of Wisła Kraków, Cracovia, Wisła's hooligans group is called ''Wisła Sharks'' while Cracovia's hooligans group is called ''Anty-Wisła'', that says a lot. Wisła fans often call Cracovia fans ''the Jews'' and the other Cracovia band is called ''Jude Gang'') and Szpilka had to make a choice - the Sharks or his friends in other groups. Szpilka choosed to break contacts with the Wisła Sharks. Since then, as far as i know he doesn't show up in Kraków (except when he fought Adamek), and he 2 days ago, when a media training before the Wach-Szpilka fight took place in Kraków, he didn't show up as well.

Those are the Wisła Sharks:

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and there are dozens of small, unrelated groups in Krakow like this one

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Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 20:49
by dagilechia


Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 21:24
by dagilechia
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Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 21:34
by dagilechia

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 04:55
by DrDuke
Szpilka looked better overall, cause he was outworking slow Wach. Szpilka's chin almost spoiled it again, but Wach was too sluggish and didn't have enough power to finish rocked, exhausted Szpilka, who had his hands down.

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 07:53
by TempleSlave
dagilechia wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 20:47
TempleSlave wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 20:38
dagilechia wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 20:20

yes, i still can't believe that he didn't knocked Szpilka out in round 10, or in round 6 when he had Szpilka in the corner. he should try more aggresively, i doubt that he was too tired. Wach called it a robbery, Szpilka says it should be scored 97-92 for him, i think there will be a rematch.
Just watched the 10th (dzięki ;-) ) - can’t believe how stupid and unprofessional Szpilka is. He belongs to hooligans’ group fights somewhere deep in the woods, not in the boxing ring. He’s got a bit of talent but is getting absolutely nowhere with that brickhead mentality. I’ve heard his coach Gmitruk apparently lost his shït completely when he saw Szpilka’s antics :lol:
:TU:

yeah, i have never seen Gmitruk as angry as after round 6, he was very angry also after round 10.

Szpilka doesn't belongs to hooligan groups anymore. Szpilka comes from Wieliczka, which is a small town near Kraków, and he was a fan of football team called Wisła Kraków. but Wisła Kraków fans that belong to the hooligan group called ''Wisła Sharks'' published some years ago a statement in which they stated that Szpilka must be treated like an enemy, like a fan of Cracovia, and that they will ''hunt'' for him in Kraków (Kraków is the only city in Poland where football hooligans use machetes, knifes etc and generally Sharks are rather a drug dealing gang than football hooligans) - it's because Szpilka had contacts and friends in other groups of fans (including the main rival of Wisła Kraków, Cracovia, Wisła's hooligans group is called ''Wisła Sharks'' while Cracovia's hooligans group is called ''Anty-Wisła'', that says a lot. Wisła fans often call Cracovia fans ''the Jews'' and the other Cracovia band is called ''Jude Gang'') and Szpilka had to make a choice - the Sharks or his friends in other groups. Szpilka choosed to break contacts with the Wisła Sharks. Since then, as far as i know he doesn't show up in Kraków (except when he fought Adamek), and he 2 days ago, when a media training before the Wach-Szpilka fight took place in Kraków, he didn't show up as well.

Those are the Wisła Sharks:

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and there are dozens of small, unrelated groups in Krakow like this one

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Wonder how many of these gentlemen were present in the arena.

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 10:47
by dagilechia
TempleSlave wrote: 11 Nov 2018, 07:53
dagilechia wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 20:47
TempleSlave wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 20:38
Just watched the 10th (dzięki ;-) ) - can’t believe how stupid and unprofessional Szpilka is. He belongs to hooligans’ group fights somewhere deep in the woods, not in the boxing ring. He’s got a bit of talent but is getting absolutely nowhere with that brickhead mentality. I’ve heard his coach Gmitruk apparently lost his shït completely when he saw Szpilka’s antics :lol:
:TU:

yeah, i have never seen Gmitruk as angry as after round 6, he was very angry also after round 10.

Szpilka doesn't belongs to hooligan groups anymore. Szpilka comes from Wieliczka, which is a small town near Kraków, and he was a fan of football team called Wisła Kraków. but Wisła Kraków fans that belong to the hooligan group called ''Wisła Sharks'' published some years ago a statement in which they stated that Szpilka must be treated like an enemy, like a fan of Cracovia, and that they will ''hunt'' for him in Kraków (Kraków is the only city in Poland where football hooligans use machetes, knifes etc and generally Sharks are rather a drug dealing gang than football hooligans) - it's because Szpilka had contacts and friends in other groups of fans (including the main rival of Wisła Kraków, Cracovia, Wisła's hooligans group is called ''Wisła Sharks'' while Cracovia's hooligans group is called ''Anty-Wisła'', that says a lot. Wisła fans often call Cracovia fans ''the Jews'' and the other Cracovia band is called ''Jude Gang'') and Szpilka had to make a choice - the Sharks or his friends in other groups. Szpilka choosed to break contacts with the Wisła Sharks. Since then, as far as i know he doesn't show up in Kraków (except when he fought Adamek), and he 2 days ago, when a media training before the Wach-Szpilka fight took place in Kraków, he didn't show up as well.

Those are the Wisła Sharks:

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and there are dozens of small, unrelated groups in Krakow like this one

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Wonder how many of these gentlemen were present in the arena.
not many probably (if any of them) because they had their football match at the same day in Kraków. also they have a lot of problems with law due to drug dealing, as well as their friends from other team (Ruch Chorzów - Psycho Fans) a lot of their bosses, important persons got convicted, one of the Wisła Sharks bosses got caught in Italy (European arrest warrant) due to drug dealing stuff as well. This guy was famous already back in the 1998 when after the game Wisła Kraków vs AC Parma he threw a knife at Italian player Dino Baggio, the knife landed on Baggio's head.

Btw Szpilka was never an important member of the Sharks. he was rather like a private in Army. so i don't think that they care about him much unless if he goes to Kraków.

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 16:02
by adislav123
Herd of retarded roided up dickheads🤮

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 18:02
by Rob3_142
I just watched the fight, without knowing the outcome, and with no sound (mostly because I can't speak Polish), and I awarded the win to Szpilka. It would have been wider had it not been for the knockdown in the 10th.

Overall Szpilka was much more active and effective. I do to some degree like him as a fighter. Like he's technically quite good, his head movement and feet are very good, and he throws some nice body/head combos. Unfortunately, his punches don't have much pop, and he's a suspect chin. Those two things mean you won't go very far in this division, and his timing is not good enough to beat the top guys on points.

Would like to see him maybe take on the EBU, but I would expect him to lose.

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 18:43
by dagilechia
the problem with his head movement is that he doesnt make any move with his head when he gets hit, no amortization effect.

Kabayel vs Szpilka? why not, i can see Szpilka winning that, he would be an underdog though.

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 17:18
by Mexi-Box
dagilechia wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 20:11
jamamb wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 20:09 szpilka even though hes actually still a young hw is not reacting well to punches. his brain was fried by wilder and then the kownacki beating and this fight dont help either. i imagine well see him ktfo again
yeah his chin was better before, vs Jennings his chin was tougher but back then he was already doing this:
His chin was always supsect. The man was dropped hard by Mollo and getting stopped by featherfisted Jennings is also bad.

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 17:55
by Lackeos
Hard to believe Szpilka could pull out an official decision against Wach. I guess his reign as a gatekeeper still has plenty of life left.

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 13 Nov 2018, 04:00
by candyslim
I thought he looked in very good shape which is a hell of a lot more than I could say for Wach. His punch resistance is a worry though.

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 13 Nov 2018, 07:27
by dagilechia
in next fight Szpilka will probably face Eric Molina

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 13 Nov 2018, 10:43
by TempleSlave
Lackeos wrote: 12 Nov 2018, 17:55 Hard to believe Szpilka could pull out an official decision against Wach. I guess his reign as a gatekeeper still has plenty of life left.
Was hardly a surprise for me. After all he had survived 8 rounds vs Wilder without looking too bad before getting KOed so I was pretty sure he could decision much slower and less aggressive Wach. Plus skill wise he’s a class above. Plus he’s got a top class coach with him now.

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 13 Nov 2018, 19:46
by dagilechia
1.800.000 people viewed this fight on tv

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 14 Nov 2018, 06:13
by Ruthless-RKO
dagilechia wrote: 13 Nov 2018, 19:46 1.800.000 people viewed this fight on tv
Was it a free channel?

What’s Poland’s population?

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 14 Nov 2018, 10:39
by dagilechia
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Nov 2018, 06:13
dagilechia wrote: 13 Nov 2018, 19:46 1.800.000 people viewed this fight on tv
Was it a free channel?

What’s Poland’s population?
yes it was on TVP1 which is the biggest public tv channel in Poland, it was also for free on their website. there are two big promotional groups in Poland, one is tied with the public tv TVP (TVP Sport and TVP1, the latter shows only the biggest world's and Polish fights like AJ's fights, Szpilka Wach and Polish fighters at WBSS) and other group is tied with the biggest private tv channel Polsat (Polsat Sport, Polsat Sport Fight, Polsat),

Population of Poland is ~38.000.000. for comparison, it's almost 9x less than Usa, a bit less than a half of Germany's population, about the same population as California or Canada.

the 1,8mln is a good number, but still boxing is a bit on decrease in Poland i think, the record of 8.193.000 viewers of Golota-Adamek fight will be probably never beaten.

Re: Artur Szpilka vs. Mariusz Wach - November 10, 2018

Posted: 15 Nov 2018, 07:39
by Rob3_142
dagilechia wrote: 13 Nov 2018, 07:27 in next fight Szpilka will probably face Eric Molina
Nothing wrong with that. It's either step up and get splattered, or make for some entertaining fights with other C level fighters.