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chuck9788 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:58

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 10:33

armageto wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 01:09 Not impressed with Castona honestly.

I completely disagree.

Castano has maximized his potential at LMW. The kid is the size of a LWW (67” reach, 5’7”) and he has made himself a career out of getting in there with much larger men, out boxing them, and out working them.

A draw was just last night but it was Castano who made that fight, and it was Castano who finished stronger against one of the most skilled boxers in the sport who also had a 2” height and 8” reach advantage.

Castano has excellent boxing skills, and huge heart. I am very impressed by him.

I agree with Ironbeard. The reach advantage for Lara was tremendous. Still, Castano was able to penetrate through Lara's tough defense and get some decent work done inside. I was actually hoping for a draw when the 3rd scorecard was being announced by Jimmy Lennon Jr.

armageto wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 14:33

chuck9788 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:58

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 10:33

armageto wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 01:09 Not impressed with Castona honestly.

I completely disagree.

Castano has maximized his potential at LMW. The kid is the size of a LWW (67” reach, 5’7”) and he has made himself a career out of getting in there with much larger men, out boxing them, and out working them.

A draw was just last night but it was Castano who made that fight, and it was Castano who finished stronger against one of the most skilled boxers in the sport who also had a 2” height and 8” reach advantage.

Castano has excellent boxing skills, and huge heart. I am very impressed by him.

I agree with Ironbeard. The reach advantage for Lara was tremendous. Still, Castano was able to penetrate through Lara's tough defense and get some decent work done inside. I was actually hoping for a draw when the 3rd scorecard was being announced by Jimmy Lennon Jr.

We just agree to disagree then. He was at some physical disadvantages, but on the other side of the coin, it was against an older Lara. Would he have the same success against the Lara of Paul Williams or Canelo? Will his style of coming forward and out working guys work against guys who do it better in Hurd/Munguia, who will both be even physically bigger than him compared to Lara?

I'm not saying the guy is garbage, just for an undefeated champ, with an AM's background, I expected more from him the first time seeing him. I don't recall him landing one shot that backed up his KO%. A lot of the night he was just throwing punches that were getting blocked or missed. I didn't care for his jab. He came back into the fight the last third of it against a Lara who lost a lot of tread on the tires. He's a work rate guy, which is fine. I just don't think he can beat the best guys in the division. I thought an older Lara beat him last night so a younger one would have definitely won. My first time seeing him and from what I heard on him, I just expected more from him, I guess.

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 14:56

armageto wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 14:33

chuck9788 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:58

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 10:33

armageto wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 01:09 Not impressed with Castona honestly.

I completely disagree.

Castano has maximized his potential at LMW. The kid is the size of a LWW (67” reach, 5’7”) and he has made himself a career out of getting in there with much larger men, out boxing them, and out working them.

A draw was just last night but it was Castano who made that fight, and it was Castano who finished stronger against one of the most skilled boxers in the sport who also had a 2” height and 8” reach advantage.

Castano has excellent boxing skills, and huge heart. I am very impressed by him.

I agree with Ironbeard. The reach advantage for Lara was tremendous. Still, Castano was able to penetrate through Lara's tough defense and get some decent work done inside. I was actually hoping for a draw when the 3rd scorecard was being announced by Jimmy Lennon Jr.

We just agree to disagree then. He was at some physical disadvantages, but on the other side of the coin, it was against an older Lara. Would he have the same success against the Lara of Paul Williams or Canelo? Will his style of coming forward and out working guys work against guys who do it better in Hurd/Munguia, who will both be even physically bigger than him compared to Lara?

I'm not saying the guy is garbage, just for an undefeated champ, with an AM's background, I expected more from him the first time seeing him. I don't recall him landing one shot that backed up his KO%. A lot of the night he was just throwing punches that were getting blocked or missed. I didn't care for his jab. He came back into the fight the last third of it against a Lara who lost a lot of tread on the tires. He's a work rate guy, which is fine. I just don't think he can beat the best guys in the division. I thought an older Lara beat him last night so a younger one would have definitely won. My first time seeing him and from what I heard on him, I just expected more from him, I guess.

Fair assessment.

It played out pretty much the way I expected. I mentioned prior to the fight that his power is not representative of his ko %. At this level it is not special, being nothing more than cumulative.

I agree that a younger Lara would likely have clearly outpointed him, and that Hurd and Charlo will likely defeat him. However, I am impressed with his boxing skills, having watched five or six of his fights. He controls distance for his diminutive size with excellent footwork and elusive head movement.

He maximizes his gifts and skill. He is one of the very best boxers to come out of Argentina. It is too bad that he cannot drop down to welter and face fighters more his own size. I would love to see him v Porter, Danny and some of the others.

That said, he is no easy out at 154 given his excellent skills and solid chin.

armageto wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 15:05

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 14:56

armageto wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 14:33

chuck9788 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:58

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 10:33

armageto wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 01:09 Not impressed with Castona honestly.

I completely disagree.

Castano has maximized his potential at LMW. The kid is the size of a LWW (67” reach, 5’7”) and he has made himself a career out of getting in there with much larger men, out boxing them, and out working them.

A draw was just last night but it was Castano who made that fight, and it was Castano who finished stronger against one of the most skilled boxers in the sport who also had a 2” height and 8” reach advantage.

Castano has excellent boxing skills, and huge heart. I am very impressed by him.

I agree with Ironbeard. The reach advantage for Lara was tremendous. Still, Castano was able to penetrate through Lara's tough defense and get some decent work done inside. I was actually hoping for a draw when the 3rd scorecard was being announced by Jimmy Lennon Jr.

We just agree to disagree then. He was at some physical disadvantages, but on the other side of the coin, it was against an older Lara. Would he have the same success against the Lara of Paul Williams or Canelo? Will his style of coming forward and out working guys work against guys who do it better in Hurd/Munguia, who will both be even physically bigger than him compared to Lara?

I'm not saying the guy is garbage, just for an undefeated champ, with an AM's background, I expected more from him the first time seeing him. I don't recall him landing one shot that backed up his KO%. A lot of the night he was just throwing punches that were getting blocked or missed. I didn't care for his jab. He came back into the fight the last third of it against a Lara who lost a lot of tread on the tires. He's a work rate guy, which is fine. I just don't think he can beat the best guys in the division. I thought an older Lara beat him last night so a younger one would have definitely won. My first time seeing him and from what I heard on him, I just expected more from him, I guess.

Fair assessment.

It played out pretty much the way I expected. I mentioned prior to the fight that his power is not representative of his ko %. At this level it is not special, being nothing more than cumulative.

I agree that a younger Lara would likely have clearly outpointed him, and that Hurd and Charlo will likely defeat him. However, I am impressed with his boxing skills, having watched five or six of his fights. He controls distance for his diminutive size with excellent footwork and elusive head movement.

He maximizes his gifts and skill. He is one of the very best boxers to come out of Argentina. It is too bad that he cannot drop down to welter and face fighters more his own size. I would love to see him v Porter, Danny and some of the others.

That said, he is no easy out at 154 given his excellent skills and solid chin.

I guess I have to see more of him as well. You've seen a few of his fights so had a better idea on him going in. I've watched less fights in the last couple of years since I stopped betting. Was debating on getting back into it, or doing that Showtime pick'em game, both should have me actively watching more foreign to the states and obscure fighters more. Plus all these streaming apps really give you an extra look at fighters you normally wouldn't get a chance to see.

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 15:18

armageto wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 15:05

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 14:56

armageto wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 14:33

chuck9788 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:58

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 10:33

armageto wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 01:09 Not impressed with Castona honestly.

I completely disagree.

Castano has maximized his potential at LMW. The kid is the size of a LWW (67” reach, 5’7”) and he has made himself a career out of getting in there with much larger men, out boxing them, and out working them.

A draw was just last night but it was Castano who made that fight, and it was Castano who finished stronger against one of the most skilled boxers in the sport who also had a 2” height and 8” reach advantage.

Castano has excellent boxing skills, and huge heart. I am very impressed by him.

I agree with Ironbeard. The reach advantage for Lara was tremendous. Still, Castano was able to penetrate through Lara's tough defense and get some decent work done inside. I was actually hoping for a draw when the 3rd scorecard was being announced by Jimmy Lennon Jr.

We just agree to disagree then. He was at some physical disadvantages, but on the other side of the coin, it was against an older Lara. Would he have the same success against the Lara of Paul Williams or Canelo? Will his style of coming forward and out working guys work against guys who do it better in Hurd/Munguia, who will both be even physically bigger than him compared to Lara?

I'm not saying the guy is garbage, just for an undefeated champ, with an AM's background, I expected more from him the first time seeing him. I don't recall him landing one shot that backed up his KO%. A lot of the night he was just throwing punches that were getting blocked or missed. I didn't care for his jab. He came back into the fight the last third of it against a Lara who lost a lot of tread on the tires. He's a work rate guy, which is fine. I just don't think he can beat the best guys in the division. I thought an older Lara beat him last night so a younger one would have definitely won. My first time seeing him and from what I heard on him, I just expected more from him, I guess.

Fair assessment.

It played out pretty much the way I expected. I mentioned prior to the fight that his power is not representative of his ko %. At this level it is not special, being nothing more than cumulative.

I agree that a younger Lara would likely have clearly outpointed him, and that Hurd and Charlo will likely defeat him. However, I am impressed with his boxing skills, having watched five or six of his fights. He controls distance for his diminutive size with excellent footwork and elusive head movement.

He maximizes his gifts and skill. He is one of the very best boxers to come out of Argentina. It is too bad that he cannot drop down to welter and face fighters more his own size. I would love to see him v Porter, Danny and some of the others.

That said, he is no easy out at 154 given his excellent skills and solid chin.

I guess I have to see more of him as well. You've seen a few of his fights so had a better idea on him going in. I've watched less fights in the last couple of years since I stopped betting. Was debating on getting back into it, or doing that Showtime pick'em game, both should have me actively watching more foreign to the states and obscure fighters more. Plus all these streaming apps really give you an extra look at fighters you normally wouldn't get a chance to see.

I pick up a lot of fights of the more obscure up and comers on Russia TV and Youtube. But the best place to keep up on what’s going on is on The Beast’s site.

Duran1970 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 16:23 I thought Castano edged it..but no problem with draw obviously.. typical Lara fight...close as hell

jamamb wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 22:56 all 3 judges gave castano the last 3

ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 17:03 Rewatching now.

Rd1= L
Rd2=c
Rd 3 =c
Rd 4=c

Castanos D is excellent.

Rd 5= l

But every round is close and I think C may have stole that one late.

Rd 6= c

But another very close one.

Castano is really good at stealing rounds.

Rd7= L

But Castano flurried late to make it close again.

Rd8 = L

But the kid flurries very late again to make it close. Lara landed nicest shot of fight so far that round.

Rd 9= C

Lara landed a good left early but Castano came on strong especially to body to shade it.

Rd10 = L

Still close but clear by way of cleaner shots.

Rd 11 = C

Close but clear for Castano on body work.

Rd 12 = L

Clearest round for me.

Draw. Last night I shaded Castano but I did not pay as close attention.

Lara has only himself to blame. He should have done more early. Castano’s footwork and defense is very good.

Best Coast wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 03:05

EJA wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 01:20 Castaño robbed

Not really...he took too many rounds off, for whatever reason. If he had sustained the body attack that he used in the 11th & 12th rounds (and a few other rounds) he could have won it. But he didnt...