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bennie wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 05:25

Old bones Ian wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 02:23 Although not a title shot John L Gardner vs Michael Dokes was pretty brutal.

Gardner was actually given a chance against Dokes because the American, though unbeaten, went through a spell in his career when he looked a bit 'iffy'. He was held to a draw by the cagey Ossie Ocasio and struggled to outscore the face-first Tex Cobb before suddenly hitting hard, stopping Ocasio quickly in a rematch and also blowing away Lynn Ball. Hindsight tells us that Dokes had matured and was coming into his own but hindsight comes after the event.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑13 Apr 2019, 03:14 Another one of our "Golden age of British boxing" brutally exposed.
There will be no-one left soon to headline Sky's domestic bills.

ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑13 Apr 2019, 07:16 Khans next up on a hiding to nothing.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑13 Apr 2019, 03:14 Another one of our "Golden age of British boxing" brutally exposed.
There will be no-one left soon to headline Sky's domestic bills.

handsofstone wrote: ↑13 Apr 2019, 08:21 This is world championship level boxing so its a very high risk of being beat up or KO'd, boxers know the risks and most of them want to test themselves against the best, why else box professionally?? Sure Crolla came up short and it was a mismatch but that says more about the level Lomachenko operates at, he's a true one off and there's probably only a handful of Lightweights on the planet who can blow away Crolla like that, Crolla's in good company and in the vast majority of people who will be swept aside from Lomachenko, should every other fighter in the divison just hang them up because they've no chance of beating the greatest boxer to ever lace up the gloves?(IMO)

As for the criticism Hearn is receiving, he's a promoter who's got his guy the ultimate fight, I'm sure Crolla and the other guys with winning/competitive mentalities will be forever in his debt and grateful for the opportunity to be great

Better fighters than Crolla have been stopped earlier by far worse fighters than Lomachenko, people get stopped early all the time, were they all mismatches too? Ive seen guys winning fights taking far more punishment than Crolla did last night

We all knew Lomachenko was gonna be too good for Crolla but I personally think if you think Hearn should never have offered this fight to Crolla then your probably of a different mindset from a top athlete or competitor, the risk would far outweigh the reward for the naysayers

As for Crolla being mandatory, he's far from the worst mandatory there's ever been, infact I imagine 70% of the worst match ups in boxing come from disgraceful mandates, the WBA have moved Connor Benn into the top 5 or 6, not only has he not got 1 respectable win on his record but he hadn't fought and he's moved up the rankings twice, if he sits tight then I'm sure the WBA will make him mandatory for the title, the WBO and IBF are just as bad, if there gonna allow any Tom, Dick or Harry fight for their International/Intercontinental trinkets then they shouldn't allow the winner an automatic top 15 ranking

dr_devious wrote: ↑20 Dec 2018, 13:25 The two Bruno-Tyson fights come close to this, especially the second one

skanksta wrote: ↑13 Apr 2019, 15:33 "ya" and if any boxer is thinking of signing for Matchroom and they say,
"I know you've lost 6 times already - including twice at British level - but I can get you a big 6 figures to headline against a superstar in Los Angeles..."
I think they'd be a lot of sacrificial lambs wanting to jump on that altar !

keirw wrote: ↑13 Apr 2019, 08:35 I'm not sure Hearn ever planned for Crolla to face Loma, I imagine he expected Loma to vacate to fight a bigger opponent and was looking to put Crolla in place to pick up the vacant belt.

Once it became apparent Loma wasn't going to vacate he had to pretend that this was his plan all along, he even makes out that he got one over on Arum.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 06:35 He did plan for it. He was begging for purse bids. He wanted Crolla to earn a nice pay check.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 11:44 No, he wanted Loma here so he could go ppv like GGG-Brook!