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dagilechia wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:01

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:00

dagilechia wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 14:59

i can't wait when they will announce his opponent, it will probably make me laugh a lot

At this point it may make you throw up!

we will see... maybe they will surprise us and it will be someone at least decent

Who would accept a fight two weeks out (less) other than a complete stiff?

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:02

dagilechia wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:01

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:00
At this point it may make you throw up!

we will see... maybe they will surprise us and it will be someone at least decent

Who would accept a fight two weeks out (less) other than a complete stiff?

I can't understand why there is not an opponent yet. It's not like they had an opponent and he backed out.
They just haven't bothered to name one.
Bad promoting

tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:05

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:02

dagilechia wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:01
we will see... maybe they will surprise us and it will be someone at least decent

Who would accept a fight two weeks out (less) other than a complete stiff?

I can't understand why there is not an opponent yet. It's not like they had an opponent and he backed out.
They just haven't bothered to name one.
Bad promoting

Or waiting on potential AJ/Miller. Both of their respective opponents aren't named. Heck, even the April 13 Wembley card has nothing but AJ's name.

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:08

tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:05

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:02
Who would accept a fight two weeks out (less) other than a complete stiff?

I can't understand why there is not an opponent yet. It's not like they had an opponent and he backed out.
They just haven't bothered to name one.
Bad promoting

Or waiting on potential AJ/Miller. Both of their respective opponents aren't named. Heck, even the April 13 Wembley card has nothing but AJ's name.

But at least Aj isn't fighting for 3 months.
They can wait a month and at least his opponent will have 2 months to train.
Miller has 11 days and no opponent

tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:10

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:08

tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:05

I can't understand why there is not an opponent yet. It's not like they had an opponent and he backed out.
They just haven't bothered to name one.
Bad promoting

Or waiting on potential AJ/Miller. Both of their respective opponents aren't named. Heck, even the April 13 Wembley card has nothing but AJ's name.

But at least Aj isn't fighting for 3 months.
They can wait a month and at least his opponent will have 2 months to train.
Miller has 11 days and no opponent

It'll be another fight and still unanswered questions about Miller. He is really frustrating, yet he keeps his mouth moving.

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:02

dagilechia wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:01

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:00
At this point it may make you throw up!

we will see... maybe they will surprise us and it will be someone at least decent

Who would accept a fight two weeks out (less) other than a complete stiff?

nobody i guess.. Dimitrenko, Fedosov, Rudenko, maybe Helenius at best, those are probably the best possible names...but most likely the opponent will be far worse than them

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:12

tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:10

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:08
Or waiting on potential AJ/Miller. Both of their respective opponents aren't named. Heck, even the April 13 Wembley card has nothing but AJ's name.

But at least Aj isn't fighting for 3 months.
They can wait a month and at least his opponent will have 2 months to train.
Miller has 11 days and no opponent

It'll be another fight and still unanswered questions about Miller. He is really frustrating, yet he keeps his mouth moving.

Hearn is keeping his shiny 0 protected until he fights Joshua or Whyte

dagilechia wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:12

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:02

dagilechia wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:01
we will see... maybe they will surprise us and it will be someone at least decent

Who would accept a fight two weeks out (less) other than a complete stiff?

nobody i guess.. Dimitrenko, Fedosov, Rudenko, maybe Helenius at best, those are probably the best possible names...but most likely the opponent will be far worse than them

Too bad Sokolowski is scheduled already on Feb 15.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:13

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:12

tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:10

But at least Aj isn't fighting for 3 months.
They can wait a month and at least his opponent will have 2 months to train.
Miller has 11 days and no opponent

It'll be another fight and still unanswered questions about Miller. He is really frustrating, yet he keeps his mouth moving.

Hearn is keeping his shiny 0 protected until he fights Joshua or Whyte

It's ridiculous...everyone's protecting their 'position.' Thank God for Fury/Wilder and Whyte/Chisora, else there's really no competitive HW fight in top 10. Ortiz/Pulev would be interesting.

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:14

dagilechia wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:12

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:02
Who would accept a fight two weeks out (less) other than a complete stiff?

nobody i guess.. Dimitrenko, Fedosov, Rudenko, maybe Helenius at best, those are probably the best possible names...but most likely the opponent will be far worse than them

Too bad Sokolowski is scheduled already on Feb 15.

Ha! His opponent will be probably worse than Kamil Sokołowski, that's funny and sad at once

dagilechia wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:18

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:14

dagilechia wrote: ↑08 Jan 2019, 15:12

nobody i guess.. Dimitrenko, Fedosov, Rudenko, maybe Helenius at best, those are probably the best possible names...but most likely the opponent will be far worse than them

Too bad Sokolowski is scheduled already on Feb 15.

Ha! His opponent will be probably worse than Kamil Sokołowski, that's funny and sad at once

Voting will last until the end of 17.01.2019

at this point the list looks like this:

1. Anthony Joshua - 400 points (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2. Tyson Fury - 350 points (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
3. Deontay Wilder - 311 points (4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 5, 3)
4. Alexander Povetkin - 270 points (3, 6, 7, 5, 5, 6, 5, 4, 3, 4)
5. Dillian Whyte - 268 points (8, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 7, 4, 5)
6. Luis Ortiz - 251 points (5, 5, 4, 6, 6, 5, 6, 5, 7, 6)
7. Jarrell Miller - 212 points (7, 7, 6, 8, 8, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
8. Kubrat Pulev - 206 points (6, 9, 9, 7, 7, 8, 8, 6, 10, 7)
9. Joseph Parker - 190 points (9, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 6, 9)
10. Dominic Breazeale - 139 points (11, 12, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10, -, 9, 10)
11. Bryant Jennings - 121 points (13, 15, 12, 13, 14, 12, 13, 10, 15, 13)
12. Adam Kownacki - 113 points (10, 10, -, 11, 12, 11, 11, -, 13, 11)
13. Dereck Chisora - 105 points (14, 11, 14, 14, -, 15, 14, 12, 11, 15)
14. Filip Hrgović - 82 points (12, 14, 11, 15, -, -, 15, 14, 12, -)
15. Agit Kabayel - 73 points (-, -, 13, 12, -, 13, 12, 13, -, 14)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
16. Hughie Fury - 30 points (-, -, 15, -, 15, -, -, 15, -, -)
17. Michael Hunter - 26 points (15, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -)
17. Marco Huck - 26 points (-, 13, -, -, -, -, -, 11, -, -)
19. Christian Hammer - 24 points (-, -, -, -, -, 14, -, -, -, 12)
20. Joe Joyce - 23 points (-, -, -, -, 13, -, -, -, 14, -)

dagilechia wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 07:25 Voting will last until the end of 17.01.2019

at this point the list this:

1. Anthony Joshua - 400 points (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2. Tyson Fury - 350 points (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
3. Deontay Wilder - 311 points (4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 5, 3)
4. Alexander Povetkin - 270 points (3, 6, 7, 5, 5, 6, 5, 4, 3, 4)
5. Dillian Whyte - 268 points (8, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 7, 4, 5)
6. Luis Ortiz - 251 points (5, 5, 4, 6, 6, 5, 6, 5, 7, 6)
7. Jarrell Miller - 212 points (7, 7, 6, 8, 8, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
8. Kubrat Pulev - 206 points (6, 9, 9, 7, 7, 8, 8, 6, 10, 7)
9. Joseph Parker - 190 points (9, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 6, 9)
10. Dominic Breazeale - 139 points (11, 12, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10, -, 9, 10)
11. Bryant Jennings - 121 points (13, 15, 12, 13, 14, 12, 13, 10, 15, 13)
12. Adam Kownacki - 113 points (10, 10, -, 11, 12, 11, 11, -, 13, 11)
13. Dereck Chisora - 105 points (14, 11, 14, 14, -, 15, 14, 12, 11, 15)
14. Filip Hrgović - 82 points (12, 14, 11, 15, -, -, 15, 14, 12, -)
15. Agit Kabayel - 73 points (-, -, 13, 12, -, 13, 12, 13, -, 14)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
16. Hughie Fury - 30 points (-, -, 15, -, 15, -, -, 15, -, -)
17. Michael Hunter - 26 points (15, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -)
17. Marco Huck - 26 points (-, 13, -, -, -, -, -, 11, -, -)
19. Christian Hammer - 24 points (-, -, -, -, -, 14, -, -, -, 12)
20. Joe Joyce - 23 points (-, -, -, -, 13, -, -, -, 14, -)

Oooooo...pretty!

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 10:22

dagilechia wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 07:25 Voting will last until the end of 17.01.2019

at this point the list this:

1. Anthony Joshua - 400 points (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2. Tyson Fury - 350 points (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
3. Deontay Wilder - 311 points (4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 5, 3)
4. Alexander Povetkin - 270 points (3, 6, 7, 5, 5, 6, 5, 4, 3, 4)
5. Dillian Whyte - 268 points (8, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 7, 4, 5)
6. Luis Ortiz - 251 points (5, 5, 4, 6, 6, 5, 6, 5, 7, 6)
7. Jarrell Miller - 212 points (7, 7, 6, 8, 8, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
8. Kubrat Pulev - 206 points (6, 9, 9, 7, 7, 8, 8, 6, 10, 7)
9. Joseph Parker - 190 points (9, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 6, 9)
10. Dominic Breazeale - 139 points (11, 12, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10, -, 9, 10)
11. Bryant Jennings - 121 points (13, 15, 12, 13, 14, 12, 13, 10, 15, 13)
12. Adam Kownacki - 113 points (10, 10, -, 11, 12, 11, 11, -, 13, 11)
13. Dereck Chisora - 105 points (14, 11, 14, 14, -, 15, 14, 12, 11, 15)
14. Filip Hrgović - 82 points (12, 14, 11, 15, -, -, 15, 14, 12, -)
15. Agit Kabayel - 73 points (-, -, 13, 12, -, 13, 12, 13, -, 14)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
16. Hughie Fury - 30 points (-, -, 15, -, 15, -, -, 15, -, -)
17. Michael Hunter - 26 points (15, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -)
17. Marco Huck - 26 points (-, 13, -, -, -, -, -, 11, -, -)
19. Christian Hammer - 24 points (-, -, -, -, -, 14, -, -, -, 12)
20. Joe Joyce - 23 points (-, -, -, -, 13, -, -, -, 14, -)

Oooooo...pretty!

yeah, now it looks much better, i decided to make it visually more appealing

dagilechia wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 10:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 10:22

dagilechia wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 07:25 Voting will last until the end of 17.01.2019

at this point the list this:

1. Anthony Joshua - 400 points (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2. Tyson Fury - 350 points (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
3. Deontay Wilder - 311 points (4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 5, 3)
4. Alexander Povetkin - 270 points (3, 6, 7, 5, 5, 6, 5, 4, 3, 4)
5. Dillian Whyte - 268 points (8, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 7, 4, 5)
6. Luis Ortiz - 251 points (5, 5, 4, 6, 6, 5, 6, 5, 7, 6)
7. Jarrell Miller - 212 points (7, 7, 6, 8, 8, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
8. Kubrat Pulev - 206 points (6, 9, 9, 7, 7, 8, 8, 6, 10, 7)
9. Joseph Parker - 190 points (9, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 6, 9)
10. Dominic Breazeale - 139 points (11, 12, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10, -, 9, 10)
11. Bryant Jennings - 121 points (13, 15, 12, 13, 14, 12, 13, 10, 15, 13)
12. Adam Kownacki - 113 points (10, 10, -, 11, 12, 11, 11, -, 13, 11)
13. Dereck Chisora - 105 points (14, 11, 14, 14, -, 15, 14, 12, 11, 15)
14. Filip Hrgović - 82 points (12, 14, 11, 15, -, -, 15, 14, 12, -)
15. Agit Kabayel - 73 points (-, -, 13, 12, -, 13, 12, 13, -, 14)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
16. Hughie Fury - 30 points (-, -, 15, -, 15, -, -, 15, -, -)
17. Michael Hunter - 26 points (15, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -)
17. Marco Huck - 26 points (-, 13, -, -, -, -, -, 11, -, -)
19. Christian Hammer - 24 points (-, -, -, -, -, 14, -, -, -, 12)
20. Joe Joyce - 23 points (-, -, -, -, 13, -, -, -, 14, -)

Oooooo...pretty!

yeah, now it looks much better, i decided to make it visually more appealing

I'd say you succeeded.

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 10:26

dagilechia wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 10:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 10:22
Oooooo...pretty!

yeah, now it looks much better, i decided to make it visually more appealing

I'd say you succeeded.

1. Joshua
2. Fury
3. Wilder
4. Whyte
5. Povetkin
6. Ortiz
7. Pulev
8. Parker
9. Miller
10. Breazeale
11. Jennings
12. Kownacki
13. Chisora
14. Hammer
15. Kabayel

Its tough because i think someone like Joe Joyce (unranked) would beat 10-15
Povetkin and Ortiz are about even and you could easily switch a few of them around or drop the lower rankers completely

Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 13:35 1. Joshua
2. Fury
3. Wilder
4. Whyte
5. Povetkin
6. Ortiz
7. Pulev
8. Parker
9. Miller
10. Breazeale
11. Jennings
12. Kownacki
13. Chisora
14. Hammer
15. Kabayel

Its tough because i think someone like Joe Joyce (unranked) would beat 10-15
Povetkin and Ortiz are about even and you could easily switch a few of them around or drop the lower rankers completely

If that's how you feel about Joyce, put him in, by all means!

so we have 11 votes now, this is the current ranking:

1. Anthony Joshua - 440 points (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1) -
2. Tyson Fury - 385 points (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2) -
3. Deontay Wilder - 343 points (4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 5, 3, 3) -
4. Dillian Whyte - 297 points (8, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 7, 4, 5, 4) +1
5. Alexander Povetkin - 296 points (3, 6, 7, 5, 5, 6, 5, 4, 3, 4, 5) -1
6. Luis Ortiz - 275 points (5, 5, 4, 6, 6, 5, 6, 5, 7, 6, 6) -
7. Jarrell Miller - 230 points (7, 7, 6, 8, 8, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 9) -
8. Kubrat Pulev - 228 points (6, 9, 9, 7, 7, 8, 8, 6, 10, 7, 7) -
9. Joseph Parker - 210 points (9, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 6, 9, 8) -
10. Dominic Breazeale - 155 points (11, 12, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10, -, 9, 10, 10) -
11. Bryant Jennings - 135 points (13, 15, 12, 13, 14, 12, 13, 10, 15, 13, 11) -
12. Adam Kownacki - 126 points (10, 10, -, 11, 12, 11, 11, -, 13, 11, 12) -
13. Dereck Chisora - 117 points (14, 11, 14, 14, -, 15, 14, 12, 11, 15, 13) -
14. Agit Kabayel - 83 points (-, -, 13, 12, -, 13, 12, 13, -, 14, 15) +1
15. Filip Hrgović - 82 points (12, 14, 11, 15, -, -, 15, 14, 12, -, -) -1
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16. Christian Hammer - 35 points (-, -, -, -, -, 14, -, -, -, 12, 14) +3
17. Hughie Fury - 30 points (-, -, 15, -, 15, -, -, 15, -, -, -) -1
18. Michael Hunter - 26 points (15, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -, -) -1
18. Marco Huck - 26 points (-, 13, -, -, -, -, -, 11, -, -, -) -1
20. Joe Joyce - 23 points (-, -, -, -, 13, -, -, -, 14, -, -) -

1. Joshua 2. Wilder 3. Fury 4. Whyte 5. Ortiz 6. Povetkin 7. Parker 8. Pulev 9. Hrgovic 10. Miller 11. Hunter 12. Jennings 13. Breazeale 14. Joyce 15. Kabayel

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 13:36

Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 13:35 1. Joshua
2. Fury
3. Wilder
4. Whyte
5. Povetkin
6. Ortiz
7. Pulev
8. Parker
9. Miller
10. Breazeale
11. Jennings
12. Kownacki
13. Chisora
14. Hammer
15. Kabayel

Its tough because i think someone like Joe Joyce (unranked) would beat 10-15
Povetkin and Ortiz are about even and you could easily switch a few of them around or drop the lower rankers completely

If that's how you feel about Joyce, put him in, by all means!

who beats who for me is one of the factors but not the only one. if it was the only factor for me i would already rank Hrgović 7-9, i would rank Usyk in top 5 despite the fact that he never fought at HW.

thanks for next vote, so we have 12 votes now, the voting will last until the end of 17.01.2019, this is the current ranking:

1. Anthony Joshua - 480 points (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1) -
2. Tyson Fury - 417 points (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3) -
3. Deontay Wilder - 378 points (4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 5, 3, 3, 2) -
4. Dillian Whyte - 326 points (8, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 7, 4, 5, 4, 4) -
5. Alexander Povetkin - 320 points (3, 6, 7, 5, 5, 6, 5, 4, 3, 4, 5, 6) -
6. Luis Ortiz - 301 points (5, 5, 4, 6, 6, 5, 6, 5, 7, 6, 6, 5) -
7. Kubrat Pulev - 248 points (6, 9, 9, 7, 7, 8, 8, 6, 10, 7, 7, 8) +1
8. Jarrell Miller - 246 points (7, 7, 6, 8, 8, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 9, 10) -1
9. Joseph Parker - 232 points (9, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 6, 9, 8, 7) -
10. Dominic Breazeale - 167 points (11, 12, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10, -, 9, 10, 10, 13) -
11. Bryant Jennings - 148 points (13, 15, 12, 13, 14, 12, 13, 10, 15, 13, 11, 12) -
12. Adam Kownacki - 126 points (10, 10, -, 11, 12, 11, 11, -, 13, 11, 12, -) -
13. Dereck Chisora - 117 points (14, 11, 14, 14, -, 15, 14, 12, 11, 15, 13, -) -
14. Filip Hrgović - 100 points (12, 14, 11, 15, -, -, 15, 14, 12, -, -, 9) +1
15. Agit Kabayel - 93 points (-, -, 13, 12, -, 13, 12, 13, -, 14, 15, 15) -1
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16. Michael Hunter - 40 points (15, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -, -, 11) +2
17. Christian Hammer - 35 points (-, -, -, -, -, 14, -, -, -, 12, 14, -) -1
18. Joe Joyce - 34 points (-, -, -, -, 13, -, -, -, 14, -, -, 14) +2
19. Hughie Fury - 30 points (-, -, 15, -, 15, -, -, 15, -, -, -, -) -2
20. Marco Huck - 26 points (-, 13, -, -, -, -, -, 11, -, -, -, -) -2

Well done folks.

It's turned into a decent and well balanced list. Not an awful lot to argue about there.

Far better than any of the lists that are produced by any of the alphabet bodies.

ewenhay wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 18:11 Well done folks.

It's turned into a decent and well balanced list. Not an awful lot to argue about there.

Far better than any of the lists that are produced by any of the alphabet bodies.

i agree, you can make your vote as well, it would be nice i want as much votes as possible, this ranking will be updated after every meaningful fight on different rules, this voting is just to determine the first BoxRec's forum TOP 15 after the reactivation of ranking.

dagilechia wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 18:24

ewenhay wrote: ↑10 Jan 2019, 18:11 Well done folks.

It's turned into a decent and well balanced list. Not an awful lot to argue about there.

Far better than any of the lists that are produced by any of the alphabet bodies.

i agree, you can make your vote as well, it would be nice i want as much votes as possible, this ranking will be updated after every meaningful fight on different rules, this voting is just to determine the first BoxRec's forum TOP 15 after the reactivation of ranking.

I'm pretty clear about my top 9 or 10. After that it's all of a bit of a much for muchness