Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
-
Wake up call
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 1178
- Joined: 10 Feb 2008, 11:10
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Many of the names listed aren't really journeymen.
William Warburton beating Jason Welborn is one I would consider a real journeyman upset. In fact, Warburton beating anyone would be considered a journeyman winning a fight he wasn't supposed to.
William Warburton beating Jason Welborn is one I would consider a real journeyman upset. In fact, Warburton beating anyone would be considered a journeyman winning a fight he wasn't supposed to.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Good shout.Wake up call wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 07:55 Many of the names listed aren't really journeymen.
William Warburton beating Jason Welborn is one I would consider a real journeyman upset. In fact, Warburton beating anyone would be considered a journeyman winning a fight he wasn't supposed to.
A lot of these are just upsets - not WTF ?
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Kevin McBride vs Tyson. Obviously Tyson was well done by the point but I still don't think many expected McBride to finish him off.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Billy Backus taking the title from Jose Napoles
Cookie Wallace beat Scott LeDoux, Johnny Boudreaux and amateur star Nick Wells. Cookie was the quintessential trial horse.
Cookie Wallace beat Scott LeDoux, Johnny Boudreaux and amateur star Nick Wells. Cookie was the quintessential trial horse.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Will warburton and nathan hardy are the two best away fighters on the circuit
...i wonder how far will could go if he was afforded a propa camp etc
...i wonder how far will could go if he was afforded a propa camp etc
-
Old bones Ian
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 11787
- Joined: 13 Jul 2004, 07:33
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Good to know mate, Carlo was the type of boxer who never gave anyone an easy nightCoco wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 05:16I was there that night, Carlo is a pal of mine too, great win for him, proper hard case but proper nice guy too.Old bones Ian wrote: ↑13 Jan 2019, 16:19 Carlo Colarusso Vs Glenn Catley , although Colarusso wouldn’t of called himself a journeyman, he was 10-8 at the time and Catley was 7-0.
The win earned Colarusso a British title shot, he was stopped by Neville Brown after giving the champion a tough night.
Also Sugar Gibiliru was 12-27-7 when he got a shot at the British Superfeather title against class boxer Robert Dickie, but Gibiliru upset the odds to win in a big upset.
-
Matt Teague
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 318
- Joined: 16 Aug 2004, 16:19
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Jon Thaxton winning against Paul scrap iron Ryan (brutal KO)
Then losing to Emanuel Augustus
Then losing to Emanuel Augustus
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
While everyone keeps naming specific examples I gotta say my answer was the most accurate.
A Journeyman is NEVER supposed to beat the name fighter. NEVER. Every single time it's ever happened it was an upset, and spoiled the Promoters intended plans.
A Journeyman is NEVER supposed to beat the name fighter. NEVER. Every single time it's ever happened it was an upset, and spoiled the Promoters intended plans.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Anthony Campbell v Philip N'Dou
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
No it wasn't, because that wasn't what was posed. The OP was clearly asking people to share examples of where journeymen upset the fighter expected to win.
-
jameswilson
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 13360
- Joined: 08 Jan 2004, 18:01
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Not sure if he’s been mentioned but I’ve just seen that Brett Fidoe is on a 4 fight win streak.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Blaine Logsdon was 21-18-2 (according to Boxrec) when he beat Slobodan Kacar who was having his second fight since losing his IBF light-heavyweight title and unbeaten record to Bobby Czyz.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Another big shock was late sub Shane mcphilbin upsetting Leon williams for the British cruiser weight title nobody gave Shane a chance in this one
-
rubberneck
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 379
- Joined: 19 Oct 2003, 08:28
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
I remember watching a card on Eurosport 21 years ago(!!)
Jamie Mckeever (4-0-0)vs John T Kelly (20-23-6).
Kelly outpointed Mckeever handily and had him down once and rocking on several occasions. Kelly only had 1 ko win on his record.
Jamie Mckeever (4-0-0)vs John T Kelly (20-23-6).
Kelly outpointed Mckeever handily and had him down once and rocking on several occasions. Kelly only had 1 ko win on his record.
-
Controversial
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 9152
- Joined: 13 Jul 2002, 18:29
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Maurice Harris (18-12-2) upsetting the odds by knocking out unbeaten prospect Siarhei Liakhovich (16-0)
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Jimmy Vincent stopping David Walker, who was 15-0-1 at the time.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Great choice. I’d even forgotten that one.Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 07:13 Mark Wills against Greg Page--twice!
Bigfoot over Tim Witherspoon.
Jesse Ferguson over Obed Sullivan.
Remember when Alex Garcia turned down million dollar paydays vs Foreman and Bowe, feeling he wasn't 'ready', then got whacked for a grand versus Mike Dixon?
Garing Lane then did it again to Garcia!
-
Tuan_Jim
- Heavyweight

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
He also upset Jimmy Thunder with a crushing face-down knockout, and nearly upset Larry Holmes a fight later. A handy fighter for a few years.Controversial wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 02:05 Maurice Harris (18-12-2) upsetting the odds by knocking out unbeaten prospect Siarhei Liakhovich (16-0)
-
Tuan_Jim
- Heavyweight

Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Yeah, people go straight to the Mercer fight with Ferguson. Sullivan was a wonderful late stage performance from the Boogieman. Sullivan was in the top 10 at the time. I keep meaning to put my copy on Youtube, as the one that's up there is horrible quality.Autobarn wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 11:08Great choice. I’d even forgotten that one.Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 07:13 Mark Wills against Greg Page--twice!
Bigfoot over Tim Witherspoon.
Jesse Ferguson over Obed Sullivan.
Remember when Alex Garcia turned down million dollar paydays vs Foreman and Bowe, feeling he wasn't 'ready', then got whacked for a grand versus Mike Dixon?
Garing Lane then did it again to Garcia!
Ferguson also destroyed Samson Pouha and Bobby Harris in upsets.
-
Controversial
- Heavyweight

- Posts: 9152
- Joined: 13 Jul 2002, 18:29
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Indeed, although to be fair Holmes was 48Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 11:26He also upset Jimmy Thunder with a crushing face-down knockout, and nearly upset Larry Holmes a fight later. A handy fighter for a few years.Controversial wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 02:05 Maurice Harris (18-12-2) upsetting the odds by knocking out unbeaten prospect Siarhei Liakhovich (16-0)
Harris also took the 0 from touted amateur turned pro David Izon who was 18-0, Harris was 5-6-2 at that point.
.
Last edited by Controversial on 17 Jan 2019, 02:07, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Fights journeymen were not supposed to win.
Najib Daho over Pat Cowdell was a big one. Daho not a journeyman but not considered to be at that level.