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Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 16:47
by oogiebe
Oiky wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 16:43 100% is a joke,and shameful

Yes abel is right...

I can only assume money has exchanged hands somewhere along the line
I'd like to see her house and auto.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 16:49
by Oiky
oogiebe wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 16:47 I'd like to see her house and auto.
:OhYes: :lol:

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 20:28
by Evander
Good match up, Jacobs is going to have to put in a career defining performance and have to rack up the rounds to win this one.
Canelo Alvarez is one of the most improved boxers technically in about the last 5 years for my money, I didn't think he would progress beyond that of a puncher with a cast iron chin, but today his boxing ability is now a force to be reckoned with.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 03:44
by Finkel
I read the judges were the same as for Canelo GGG II

https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/4/24/1 ... evada-dazn

Still it's shocking that Byrd was up for consideration.

Anyway, it's not like Jacobs has any chance of a decision.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 09:56
by SenorPipino
oogiebe wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 16:24 I'm so very much in Jacob's corner! I pray for a miracle!!! :bag: :box:
And Jacobs is definitely going to need a Miracle, Man!

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 09:58
by oogiebe
SenorPipino wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 09:56 And Jacobs is definitely going to need a Miracle, Man!
Probably. :lol:

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 10:12
by SenorPipino
Oiky wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 16:49 :OhYes: :lol:
She has been a respected boxing judge in Nevada since the 1990s. She has judged well over 400 bouts.

So it figures that she may actually be able to afford and enjoy a few of the finer things life offers, without gratuitous aspersions cast her way.

I'm still waiting for all those federal criminal indictments to be handed down against Nevada judges and promotions.

If the fans are privy to all this corruption, then surely law enforcement agencies must be aware too. :roll:

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 10:16
by tiny_acres
SenorPipino wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 10:12 She has been a respected boxing judge in Nevada since the 1990s. She has judged well over 400 bouts.

So it figures that she may actually be able to afford and enjoy a few of the finer things life offers, without gratuitous aspersions cast her way.

I'm still waiting for all those federal criminal indictments to be handed down against Nevada judges and promotions.

If the fans are privy to all this corruption, then surely law enforcement agencies must be aware too. :roll:
:lol: Conspiracy theories got to love them

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 16:10
by SenorPipino
tiny_acres wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 10:16 :lol: Conspiracy theories got to love them
I think it started with the JFK assassination. And Marilyn Monroe.

It hasn't stopped since.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 17:09
by boxing_rocks
SenorPipino wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 10:12 She has been a respected boxing judge in Nevada since the 1990s. She has judged well over 400 bouts.

So it figures that she may actually be able to afford and enjoy a few of the finer things life offers, without gratuitous aspersions cast her way.

I'm still waiting for all those federal criminal indictments to be handed down against Nevada judges and promotions.

If the fans are privy to all this corruption, then surely law enforcement agencies must be aware too. :roll:
Like law enforcement agencies are so successful against Mexican cartels.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 17:15
by SenorPipino
boxing_rocks wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 17:09 Like law enforcement agencies are so successful against Mexican cartels.
Equating boxing to the diabolical, worldwide evil caused by the cartels?

Now that's a real bleak, conspiracy outlook.

Although I bet El Chapo wishes that US LEA was as unsuccessful against cartels as you believe.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 19:03
by boxing_rocks
SenorPipino wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 17:15 Equating boxing to the diabolical, worldwide evil caused by the cartels?

Now that's a real bleak, conspiracy outlook.

Although I bet El Chapo wishes that US LEA was as unsuccessful against cartels as you believe.
You have doubts that sports betting is controlled by organized crime?

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 19:11
by oogiebe
boxing_rocks wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 19:03 You have doubts that sports betting is controlled by organized crime?
Wow! That WOULD be news! :lol:

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 03:06
by Best Coast
boxing_rocks wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 19:03 You have doubts that sports betting is controlled by organized crime?
Boxing today is MUCH less corrupt than it was in the 1950s.

https://www.ringtv.com/121813-think-box ... ed-to-50s/
Think boxing is corrupt? This is nothing compared to ’50s

If you’re among those whose patience for and loyalty to the sport are on life-support from all the seemingly dirty goings-on, consider the possibility that things could be worse. Really worse. It could be the 1950s again.

That’s right. The very era that many recall as one of the sport’s true “golden” ages was so brazenly filthy and infested with gangsters and other ne’er do wells that the Jan. 31, 1955 issue of Sports Illustrated concluded an investigative piece on the state of the sport’s with the sentence: “Boxing today is a national scandal.”

And this was the era of Rocky Marciano and Carmen Basilio, of Gene Fullmer and Willie Pep, of Ray Robinson and Jake LaMotta and Sandy Saddler.

This was Archie Moore’s time and Kid Gavilan’s and Rocky Graziano’s and Ike Williams’. These are giants of the sport and the stars of the era. If there was a pound-for-pound list then, all would have been on it. Today, they are in the Hall of Fame.

But it also was the era of Blinky Palermo and Frankie Carbo and the Manager’s Guild and Jim Norris and the IBC. Put simply, organized crime controlled the fight game, particularly on the East coast. Period.

The cretins running things today have nothing on this crew.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 07:12
by Thomastearns
Big surprise, 'A side' Canelo gets the same judges that gave him GGGs belts last time round. A 3 round start in Vegas? Make it 6, because you have zero chance of edging the close ones. His career is littered with some of the strangest scoring ever seen in boxing. Chance? Human error? Correct judging or something more sinister, you decide.

Adalaide Byrd back in contention? Surely everyone deserves a second chance? Don't they?

Is Saul a drug cheat or was it really dodgy meat? What about those needle marks, acupuncturist got a bit overzealous, what do you think? Have to be careful what with all those Middle Eastern type punishments regularly handed out for PED failures in this life and death sport.

NSAC, good guys working in a challenging geographical location? Or just another Sin City front? Perhaps it's time to take peek at just how these big money Vegas fights are 'financed', if that's the right word.

Oscar and Mauricio, just two lovable rogues trying to make a clean living? I think a little chat with uncle Bob, after a small drink maybe could help answer some of these questions.

Until that great whistleblowing day arrives we just have to hope for a knockout. Unfortunately Danny doesn't seem to have the same power since his bout with the big C.

Oh well, maybe we can hope that Saul will get robbed by the judges this time, the law of averages and all that. And then the end of tribal conflict as world peace follows as obscene disparities in wealth become a thing of the past due to multinationals suddenly increasing the sharing of their profits amongst all their beleaguered employees

Hmm, is it really time for some more Serotonin pills. Silly me.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 08:18
by candyslim
I was surprised and interested listening to Eddie Hearn bigging up the officials as among the best around, and how he and Jacobs are entirely satisfied blah blah blah.

They probably won't even get to hear how confident Eddie is in their ability / integrity, so as much as I understand the psychological principle behind that, it's wasted if they don't hear that ahead of the event (doubtful if it has any effect even if they do)

Where does that leave Eddie if Jacobs is robbed as I'm confident he will be, unless Canelo wins on merit which of course is not unlikely? He's going to look a total idiot if he then complains about the scorecards isn't he? Better to have said nothing about it or said something neutral /non-commital I reckon.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 29 Apr 2019, 08:30
by BroughtonRulesRefuge
- Ah, watching the munchkins plotting a huge moan-in this week for Canelo and his judges tells me all is right with the universe.
:TU:

Should be a fun fight with Jacobs again forfeiting his IBF by skipping the same day weighin and the running from the little guy like he did with Golvkin so he can moan about the judging again.

Gonna be a YUGE youtube hit, YUUUGE I tell ya, so come ye one and come ye all for a moan-in not to be dismissed.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 29 Apr 2019, 09:15
by Onetimeonly
candyslim wrote: 28 Apr 2019, 08:18 I was surprised and interested listening to Eddie Hearn bigging up the officials as among the best around, and how he and Jacobs are entirely satisfied blah blah blah.

They probably won't even get to hear how confident Eddie is in their ability / integrity, so as much as I understand the psychological principle behind that, it's wasted if they don't hear that ahead of the event (doubtful if it has any effect even if they do)

Where does that leave Eddie if Jacobs is robbed as I'm confident he will be, unless Canelo wins on merit which of course is not unlikely? He's going to look a total idiot if he then complains about the scorecards isn't he? Better to have said nothing about it or said something neutral /non-commital I reckon.
Eddie is probably just happy to be the b side on another dazn disaster. Better than being the a side.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 29 Apr 2019, 11:52
by oogiebe
Day before Cinco de Mayo. I would love nothing more than to see a Jacobs win. He's fighting not only Canelo, but the Vegas judging machine.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 29 Apr 2019, 12:58
by candyslim
Onetimeonly wrote: 29 Apr 2019, 09:15 Eddie is probably just happy to be the b side on another dazn disaster. Better than being the a side.
I'm as baffled as you are by DAZN's business model but I assume they were prepared to lose enormous sums at least in the short term. If not then they were incredibly stupid but that surely can't be the answer.

You keep going on about it like you are hoping they do fail. I'd say just relax and enjoy your ten buck subscription while it's there to be enjoyed.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 29 Apr 2019, 14:00
by Onetimeonly
candyslim wrote: 29 Apr 2019, 12:58 I'm as baffled as you are by DAZN's business model but I assume they were prepared to lose enormous sums at least in the short term. If not then they were incredibly stupid but that surely can't be the answer.

You keep going on about it like you are hoping they do fail. I'd say just relax and enjoy your ten buck subscription while it's there to be enjoyed.
No, they are failing. I'm a boxing fan, why would I want it to fail? I'm quite relaxed, perhaps you would understand better if you lived here. Boxing isn't a top 10 sport and they most certainly didn't expect to have less subscriptions then they would charging $80 for canelo/Jacobs. I think it's ego. Hearn is a great promoter and they're offering a product we've never had. Americans just don't care about boxing. I did the same with Pbc. There is a stupidity involved too. My main concern is Eddie sinking everything into an impossible situation in the States and ruing the good cards he was putting on in the UK. This is already happening. Maybe you're too nonchalant. We'll see.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 29 Apr 2019, 14:29
by candyslim
Maybe Hearn has totally misread the market and is just putting a brave face on it. Let's face it, it's not his money getting spunked up the wall. At the end of the day he's still got the UK if he hasn't totally screwed his relationship with Adam Smith and Sky.

As a Brit it really saddens me to think of the home of boxing turning it's back on the sport. It's not that I don't believe you, I just desperately wanted to believe Eddie could reproduce his UK magic and turn the clock back. Seeing how even US hardcore boxing fans (currently outnumbering the apostles but only just :D ) regard him with disdain and mistrust he's probably got a tougher task than Ghandi. :verysad:

Actually Ghandi was ultimately successful , make that G.A. Custer.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 29 Apr 2019, 14:35
by Onetimeonly
Definitely harder than ghandi. Fox prime time opened with Danny Garcia vs Robert Guerrero and it got smashed in the ratings by figure skating. Larry Holmes wasn't popular and 46 million people watched him fight shavers. Probably about a quarter of the population. No way that many have heard of Joshua or wilder much less seen them fight. It's long dead here.

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 29 Apr 2019, 14:36
by Ruthless-RKO
Sadam Ali vs. Anthony Young this Saturday on Canelo-Jacobs card

his Saturday night at The T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, welterweight, Anthony “Juice” Young will finally get the chance on the world stage to prove he is among the top fighters in the division when he takes on Sadam Ali (27-2, 14 KO’s) on the undercard of the Canelo Alvarez – Daniel Jacobs middleweight unification card live on DAZN.

Young of Atlantic City has been a professional for eight-years as he has compiled a respectable mark of 20-2 with seven knockouts, but Saturday will be his first fight on the world stage and outside of the East Coast when he takes on the the 2008 Olympian and former super welterweight champion.

“Training camp has been good. I just fought om March 23rd ( A 6th round stoppage over Juan Rodriguez Jr), so I just took a couple days off and went right back in the gym. I have had a solid six-week camp for this fight,” said Young.

Young feels that he has been overlooked as this is the 1st major opponent that he has faced in his career.

“All that I have ever wanted was an opportunity. This was presented to us, and we jumped on it. I have fought the bulk of my career at home in Atlantic City. I feel there is more pressure in that. I won’t feel any pressure on Saturday. I just know that after Saturday, the whole boxing world will know who I am.”

A win over the well-known Ali is just what Young has been clamoring for, and the 31 year-old popular Jersey Shore based fighter has had his eye on Ali for a long time.

“I have been following Ali for a long time. My goal was to make the Olympic team, and he got on the team in 2008. He’s a great fighter. He is an Olympian, who defeated a legend in Miguel Cotto to become a world champion. I think he was over-matched in terms of size when they put him in with Munguia. He is a world class fighter, but so am I. Saturday, the world will see that. A win will put me on the world stage, and will show that I am a player in the welterweight division. I want to fight everybody. I just want to thank everyone on my team, and I am dedicating this fight to Leavander Johnson and his father Bill. Leavander was the last Atlantic City fighter to get to this stage and Saturday, I will do everyone proud.”

Long-time manager Rich Masini of Masini Boxing Management has carefully but aggressively moved his welterweight prospect, young for eight- years . “I believe Anthony is more then ready for this fight, and will be victorious. Every fighter dreams of the getting the opportunity to change their lives and career. We have a great team with trainer’s Raul “Chino” Rivas, Reggie Lloyd, Rashiem Jefferson and cutman Nick Rosario. Also Anthony’s dad who has helped me navigate his career. His team has always been a pleasure to work with and his father Teany is a big part of our team. His family is also a big part of our team, and they are great people. They will have a strong showing to support him in Vegas,” says Masini

Re: Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

Posted: 29 Apr 2019, 15:03
by candyslim
Onetimeonly wrote: 29 Apr 2019, 14:35 Definitely harder than ghandi. Fox prime time opened with Danny Garcia vs Robert Guerrero and it got smashed in the ratings by figure skating. Larry Holmes wasn't popular and 46 million people watched him fight shavers. Probably about a quarter of the population. No way that many have heard of Joshua or wilder much less seen them fight. It's long dead here.
Nice one Wlad :verysad: