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getnada wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:40

tiny_acres wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:35

getnada wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:34

tiny_acres wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:31

ValMar wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:22

getnada wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:17 Anthony Joshua, by quite a significant margine in fact, all those super heavyweight olympic champions he KOed so early in his carreer already. All those beltholders and previous beltholders that don't even feel ashamed any more to duck him because he's that good. We have never witnissed anything like him in the history of the sport.

Are you serious ?

He's serious. Seriously fucktarded.

You're the Deontard here, not me.

It was a nice quiet 3 weeks without you posting. Why did you comeback?

Because reality should be faced, you can't keep ruining boxing as a sport forever with spreading lies. It's getting ruined so bad by people like you, that some people even started doubting whether Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson really were any good compared to average Europeans.

getnada wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:32

ValMar wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:22

getnada wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:17 Anthony Joshua, by quite a significant margine in fact, all those super heavyweight olympic champions he KOed so early in his carreer already. All those beltholders and previous beltholders that don't even feel ashamed any more to duck him because he's that good. We have never witnissed anything like him in the history of the sport.

Are you serious ?

Obviously. AJ absolutely schooled champions of the world and contenders for it, like Charles Martin, Breazeale, Molina and so forth. Even historical legends like Alexander Povetkin got KOed quite convincingly. Meanwhile everyone coming even remotely close, that are struggling to fight drugs addicts and fat whales don't even seem to feel ashamed at all to duck record breaking paydays from him because they are scared as hell and try to do everything they can to lie their way out of it, including cooperating with other boxers and boxing federations to act like they got a good excuse.

sturm vogel wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 12:04 I have seen all the heavyweight champions since the beginning of the sport. If we are to use the word "best" correctly, ought we not to mean "the man who is most likely to win against most of all the others"? The list is short, only the giants make it. Tyson Fury is the most skilled super heavy ever but not likely the best. Vitali Klitschko is likely the most difficult to beat so he has to be the best ever.

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 13:23

sturm vogel wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 12:04 I have seen all the heavyweight champions since the beginning of the sport. If we are to use the word "best" correctly, ought we not to mean "the man who is most likely to win against most of all the others"? The list is short, only the giants make it. Tyson Fury is the most skilled super heavy ever but not likely the best. Vitali Klitschko is likely the most difficult to beat so he has to be the best ever.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 13:28

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 13:23

sturm vogel wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 12:04 I have seen all the heavyweight champions since the beginning of the sport. If we are to use the word "best" correctly, ought we not to mean "the man who is most likely to win against most of all the others"? The list is short, only the giants make it. Tyson Fury is the most skilled super heavy ever but not likely the best. Vitali Klitschko is likely the most difficult to beat so he has to be the best ever.

Hard to imagine after reading that Joshua is the goat that someone would come with two guys he's definitely better then.

getnada wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:00

Duran1970 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 10:54

getnada wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:32

ValMar wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:22

getnada wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:17 Anthony Joshua, by quite a significant margine in fact, all those super heavyweight olympic champions he KOed so early in his carreer already. All those beltholders and previous beltholders that don't even feel ashamed any more to duck him because he's that good. We have never witnissed anything like him in the history of the sport.

Are you serious ?

Obviously. AJ absolutely schooled champions of the world and contenders for it, like Charles Martin, Breazeale, Molina and so forth. Even historical legends like Alexander Povetkin got KOed quite convincingly. Meanwhile everyone coming even remotely close, that are struggling to fight drugs addicts and fat whales don't even seem to feel ashamed at all to duck record breaking paydays from him because they are scared as hell and try to do everything they can to lie their way out of it, including cooperating with other boxers and boxing federations to act like they got a good excuse.

Povetkin a historical legend???

Absolutely, I think there has actually never been such a high skilled heavyweight as he is.
He won pretty much everything you can win as a boxer, both as a pro, as well as an amateur.
Some cowards in the sport even ran away scared of him in the ring and did everything they could and can to avoid fighting him because he's so far supreme above themself. Also note that he did it at the highest weightclass there exist, despite he's absolutely not that tall himself and neither does he have long range, it's purely his skills, speed, intelligence, stamina, efford and name it that let him come this far. All Americans he ever faced have lost badly against him and many other Americans simply avoided him because they were so cowardish. Till this day!

Duran1970 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 16:18

getnada wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:00

Duran1970 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 10:54

getnada wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:32

ValMar wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:22

getnada wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 12:17 Anthony Joshua, by quite a significant margine in fact, all those super heavyweight olympic champions he KOed so early in his carreer already. All those beltholders and previous beltholders that don't even feel ashamed any more to duck him because he's that good. We have never witnissed anything like him in the history of the sport.

Are you serious ?

Obviously. AJ absolutely schooled champions of the world and contenders for it, like Charles Martin, Breazeale, Molina and so forth. Even historical legends like Alexander Povetkin got KOed quite convincingly. Meanwhile everyone coming even remotely close, that are struggling to fight drugs addicts and fat whales don't even seem to feel ashamed at all to duck record breaking paydays from him because they are scared as hell and try to do everything they can to lie their way out of it, including cooperating with other boxers and boxing federations to act like they got a good excuse.

Povetkin a historical legend???

Absolutely, I think there has actually never been such a high skilled heavyweight as he is.
He won pretty much everything you can win as a boxer, both as a pro, as well as an amateur.
Some cowards in the sport even ran away scared of him in the ring and did everything they could and can to avoid fighting him because he's so far supreme above themself. Also note that he did it at the highest weightclass there exist, despite he's absolutely not that tall himself and neither does he have long range, it's purely his skills, speed, intelligence, stamina, efford and name it that let him come this far. All Americans he ever faced have lost badly against him and many other Americans simply avoided him because they were so cowardish. Till this day!

Povetkin a historical legend???

candyslim wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 16:38 Not just "best" but also "you have ever seen".

Clearly that is different from asking who was the best of all the heavyweights but does "you have ever seen" mean you were present in the auditorium, or does it include "seeing the fighter on TV" or if so how about old films, does that count?

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 16:53 Ali was past it when I started. Gotta go Holmes followed closely by evander.

ValMar wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 16:24 This could be a little bit strange, but I have not any dilemma - Teofilo Stevenson.
What about you ?
Fidel Castro had changed the history of boxing, forbiding Cubans to compete at pro-boxing. Sad, really sad !

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 10:18

ValMar wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 16:24 This could be a little bit strange, but I have not any dilemma - Teofilo Stevenson.
What about you ?
Fidel Castro had changed the history of boxing, forbiding Cubans to compete at pro-boxing. Sad, really sad !

Teofilo Stevenson always wanted to fight M. Ali but the Cuban government would not allow it. He was convinced that he could beat Ali. Stevenson fought the Russian heavy Igor Vysotsky twice. Vysotsky beat him both times. This is why the so called world champions in the US and UK before the 1990's were really only US-UK champions, not world champions. They never fought any eastern Europeans or Russians or Cubans. Cubans are still not allowed to turn pro, but there are many Cuban ex pats now.

The best heavy I ever saw was Vitali Klitschko. Rocky Marciano #2.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 10:59 Marciano was the hardest hitting man on earth.

He would have swallowed and regurgitated cruiserweights.

As always, too much silly obsession with weight by modern fans. Talent, toughness. That's what counts.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 10:59 Marciano was the hardest hitting man on earth.

He would have swallowed and regurgitated cruiserweights.

As always, too much silly obsession with weight by modern fans. Talent, toughness. That's what counts.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 10:59 Marciano was the hardest hitting man on earth.

He would have swallowed and regurgitated cruiserweights.

As always, too much silly obsession with weight by modern fans. Talent, toughness. That's what counts.