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That "marinating" strategy has backfired so many times... I guess Wilder, Fury and Joshua are so dominant and above the rest that it doesnt seem too risky but Id hate it if someone gets upset in the meantime.

Rob3_142 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 05:46

gregregegg wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 20:11 Just being unrealistically optimistic what if, Wilder fights whyte, Breazeal Fights parker, and fury fights ortiz. I can live with that.

I don't really understand the excitement around Fury v Parker. Parker has demonstrated that he is nothing more than a B level fighter, and whenever he steps up he gets beat fairly comfortably.

Whyte really would be the much better fight.

for one i didnt want fury vs parker. i wanted parker vs brez. but as for parker stepping up and losing therefor being B levle, mabey he is B levle but , he lost a close fight (but definatly lost) agains the number 1 heavyweight, that was kinda ruined by a terrible ref. then his only other loss is vs whyte, witch a headclash knockdown is realy the only reason he lost, and he still managed to come back and dominate round 12.
but people see two losses and right him off, but yea realy, he didnt get hurt once vs AJ and arguably would of won the fight without that headclash vs whyte (you can never know how it realy would of gone down, but he definatly wasnt convincingly beat.)
Im very confident parker loses to fury, usyk, and AJ. but every other heavyweight he is in with a redhot chance.

Like I said before, ignore me if I upset you. You're the one that initiated this exchange and again you're upset. Blame me if you like, but you're doing it to yourself. None of this bothers me one iota.

Onekrazyrican wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:13 That "marinating" strategy has backfired so many times... I guess Wilder, Fury and Joshua are so dominant and above the rest that it doesnt seem too risky but Id hate it if someone gets upset in the meantime.

This is why I can't wait for the prospects to develop. Guys like Makhmudov; Ajagba; Dubois; Hrgovic; et al, have the potential to challenge any of the big three, given they develop properly and maintain their high rate of success. This situation has certainly soured me mostly to AJ and Fury and to a lesser extent, Wilder.

I don't put anyone on 'ignore' however big an asshole they are. You don't upset me that's another example of your extreme arrogance. I do find your abrasive and unpleasant approach quite bewildering though. I suppose I shouldn't - the Internet is crawling with trolls after all.

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:32 I don't put anyone on 'ignore' however big an asshole they are. You don't upset me that's another example of your extreme arrogance. I do find your abrasive and unpleasant approach quite bewildering though. I suppose I shouldn't - the Internet is crawling with trolls after all.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:38

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:32 I don't put anyone on 'ignore' however big an asshole they are. You don't upset me that's another example of your extreme arrogance. I do find your abrasive and unpleasant approach quite bewildering though. I suppose I shouldn't - the Internet is crawling with trolls after all.

...and there you have it...

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:45

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:38

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:32 I don't put anyone on 'ignore' however big an asshole they are. You don't upset me that's another example of your extreme arrogance. I do find your abrasive and unpleasant approach quite bewildering though. I suppose I shouldn't - the Internet is crawling with trolls after all.

...and there you have it...

Onekrazyrican wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:13 That "marinating" strategy has backfired so many times... I guess Wilder, Fury and Joshua are so dominant and above the rest that it doesnt seem too risky but Id hate it if someone gets upset in the meantime.

Probably wouldn't matter all that much.

Pacquiao was knocked cold by Marquez at the end of 2012.

About 2 1/2 years later, he and Mayweather staged a FOTC, the richest, most viewed PPV bout in boxing history.

An upset defeat won't derail anything. Most fans have very short memories.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:47

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:45

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:38

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:32 I don't put anyone on 'ignore' however big an asshole they are. You don't upset me that's another example of your extreme arrogance. I do find your abrasive and unpleasant approach quite bewildering though. I suppose I shouldn't - the Internet is crawling with trolls after all.

...and there you have it...

it appears to me that you may have narcolepsy.

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:53

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:47

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:45

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:38

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:32 I don't put anyone on 'ignore' however big an asshole they are. You don't upset me that's another example of your extreme arrogance. I do find your abrasive and unpleasant approach quite bewildering though. I suppose I shouldn't - the Internet is crawling with trolls after all.

...and there you have it...

it appears to me that you may have narcolepsy.

Soon as the division gets momentum and interest again now it seems it's gonna be put in neutral....

Duran1970 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 20:51 Soon as the division gets momentum and interest again now it seems it's gonna be put in neutral....

I sure hope not. Maybe we'll get Fury/Parker and Wilder/Breazeale. Now we're hearing Usyk in talks to fight Povetkin. Could be heating up in another way, that's all.

No offence to those matchups but those fights don't interest me at all

I know what you mean. I'd rate Breazeale's chances no higher than 35% and Parker's not much better (40%max).

I guess that's fair enough, they can't all be 50/50 but if you're not excited then you're not excited.

I don't understand, why Fury's team decided not to do it immediately. It could have been an easy grab of the belt.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:50

Onekrazyrican wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 12:13 That "marinating" strategy has backfired so many times... I guess Wilder, Fury and Joshua are so dominant and above the rest that it doesnt seem too risky but Id hate it if someone gets upset in the meantime.

Probably wouldn't matter all that much.

Pacquiao was knocked cold by Marquez at the end of 2012.

About 2 1/2 years later, he and Mayweather staged a FOTC, the richest, most viewed PPV bout in boxing history.

An upset defeat won't derail anything. Most fans have very short memories.

True that but imagine if they had faced each other in 2011. Right after Floyd had beat Mosley and Pac had beat Margarito. Perception is a big thing. Back then I wasn't as sure about what would happen as I was after watching Manny chase Alguieri and Mosley around like a puppy for 12 rounds. Manny was looking as such a destructive force back then I wouldnt have dared to bet a dime on that fight. 2015 was a different story, made a couple of bucks off it but I would have paid to experience the hype of that fight in 2011

Another one that comes to mind is Gamboa vs Juanma. Back in 2009-2010 they were two former Olympians in a collision course. I remember thinking that fight would just be about whoever landed first. Arum wanted to let it marinate and it got overcooked.

I agree a loss shouldnt mean a fighter gets written off but sometimes it just shows you stuff about them that changes the forecast.

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 20:53

Duran1970 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 20:51 Soon as the division gets momentum and interest again now it seems it's gonna be put in neutral....

I sure hope not. Maybe we'll get Fury/Parker and Wilder/Breazeale. Now we're hearing Usyk in talks to fight Povetkin. Could be heating up in another way, that's all.

Not so bad.................

i guess fury is doing a mayweather type deal to rake in as much cash as possible. the network want to build to a bigger ppv and not risk it all straight away.
80 mil over 6 fights so i guess fury's handlers are pacing themselves.
it does contradict only fighting the best though. there is really no point fighting anyone other than the big 2, and a loss is always possible.
it doesn't make good sense, fury-wilder is unfinished business.

At least these two have already fought. The so called "World Champion" hasn't fought either of them.

sturm vogel wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 20:42 At least these two have already fought. The so called "World Champion" hasn't fought either of them.

Come on now, imagine the stick Joshua would have got, for taking on Fury at that point of his come back. Let's be real here, everyone thought this was way too soon, and it was seen as a soft touch for Wilder.

He(arn) offered them both a hell of a lot more money than either had earned before but they preferred to fight each other (or at least Wilder did ).

Their choice of course but it's hardly Joshua's fault he hasn't fought them. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink. Hopefully the Fury deal and Wilder in talks with DAZN brings the unification closer,

Yeah I'm with Slim on this one.

It is not for the want of trying. Joshua has been barking about Wilder for long enough now, from what I can tell it is the Wilder side which has backed away from that conversation.

Fury was not part of the conversation before he fought Wilder. Credit to Fury for performing as he did, but prior to that he was not part of the heavyweight landscape.

And let us remember here, Joshua has 4 of the heavyweight belts. It should be Wilder and Fury doing all the talking to get Joshua in the ring, not the other way round.

Frankly all three are looking to get 'interim' matches before facing one another. Only Joshua, who holds the majority of the belts, of late seemed more willing to mix it up. I hope one, two or all three lose before that happens, just to make it more interesting.

Finkel wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 03:03

sturm vogel wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 20:42 At least these two have already fought. The so called "World Champion" hasn't fought either of them.

Come on now, imagine the stick Joshua would have got, for taking on Fury at that point of his come back. Let's be real here, everyone thought this was way too soon, and it was seen as a soft touch for Wilder.

Some may, but not all, I for one have maintained since before his fight with Wlad that he's the most skilled heavy today. I thought he could box Joshua on his third fight back. I don't know if he's the best, but whatever Fury is, I think we can agree he's a different kind of heavyweight than any out there.