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Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 19:37 This is a garbage fight!

I hope it’s a commercial disaster, resulting in empty seats for Madison Square Garden, coupled with DiBella Entertainment and GGG Promotions staging a loss-making event, as well as DAZN gaining no new subscribers for their service.

I feel that promoters and broadcasters should anticipate incurring financial losses whenever they lazily attempt to sell a substandard offering to their consumers.

What’s the purpose of this poll? To highlight the fact that this is a blatant mismatch?

Dibella will make money, dazn money. Lol

SenorPipino wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 15:57 Maybe that line will be on the promotional posters: HE CAN'T BE WORSE THAN WADE

Should he have fought fielding?

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 16:19 Was that written by a boxing fan? No way. Just a sick bastard letting his venomous steam out.

EO, take your pills. You can burst from your spite.

My spite is directed towards ESPN, DAZN and everyone else that have been complicit in these mismatches.

And let’s not forget that GGG is self-promoted and self-managed, which means he’s mainly responsible for this mismatch.

You’re clearly an intelligent guy, but you’re not a moron. Don’t pretend that GGG’s honour needs defending for this absurd mismatch.

Lots of other fighters have received venomous criticism for engaging in mismatches and rightly so. Just because you’re a GGG fan, don’t allow your fanaticism to compel you to become blindly and irrationally loyal.

Golovkin thoroughly deserves to receive criticism for engaging in this mismatch.

Seriously, don’t become a hypocrite by defending a man that commits similar crimes that you are eager to criticise other fighters for committing.

In this video interview with Fight Hub TV, Gennady Golovkin’s promoter Tom Loeffler discusses a number of topics including the announcement of Golovkin’s June 8th fight against Steve Rolls, and DAZN making a strong push for Canelo-GGG 3 in the fall. Check it out...

Loeffler on why Steve Rolls as an opponent:

“I went down a number of names. We were considering Brandon Adams first. It was a tough sell, only because GGG’s fought so many guys in the middleweight division, he beat Willie Monroe fairly easily, and Willie Monroe beat Brandon Adams. So that became a tough sell for us. I mean, it’s a great match up for Charlo.

“Charlo would be a great match up at some point for GGG but at this particular time, with the guys that were available, Steve made a lot of sense. DAZN was supportive of it because they want to expand their subscription base in Canada. Steve being undefeated, being on the national team — actually two-time national champion in Canada — you know, for this fight coming back to the Garden it made a lot of sense out of all the names that we were going through.”

On if he’s seen any video of Rolls before:

“I looked at his record, I saw some tape. Gennady said he wasn’t familiar with him but he checked him out and Steve is one of those guys that we know he’s coming to win...It’s a dangerous fight, nobody’s overlooking Steve, we have a lot of respect for him and his promoter Lou DiBella.

“Lou had actually called me a number of times before, trying to make this fight, so we know there was no hesitation when we finally engaged Lou in the negotiation for this fight...I think inside the ring you’re definitely gonna see some fireworks in the ring, June 8th.”

On fan dissatisfaction with their choice of opponent:

“Look, you know, a lot of fans, they wanna see GGG in the ring. You know, he’s sold out arenas against names that haven’t been that big and we expect on June 8th it’ll be the same thing. A lot of people just wanna see GGG back in the ring. This fight made the most sense, especially the first fight of this TV contract with DAZN on their platform, and hopefully it’ll lead to much bigger fights to which DAZN has made the financial investment in the sport of boxing. So the fans will definitely get their money’s worth for this fight...”

On if they’ve received assurances from DAZN that they’ll get a fight in the fall with Canelo should they both win their upcoming fights:

“Well, DAZN really aggressively pursued GGG. When Canelo signed with DAZN, their goal wasn’t — I mean it was to sign Canelo but really as part of that goal was to make the third fight with GGG. Once they signed Canelo, they really went after Gennady, as did many other platforms. That’s kinda where it started off that whole bidding process. And the goal for DAZN is to make the third fight with GGG.

“They made it clear on our side that the fastest path, the easiest path to making the Canelo fight was to sign with DAZN. That’s what GGG did. And they told us that they made it clear to Canelo apart of that big contract he signed includes a third fight with GGG...”

On if DAZN can force Canelo to fight Golovkin:

“When you’re paying whatever the number is, $365 million, whatever that number is, I think DAZN has a lot of leverage to say who they want as part of that deal. So, you know, I can’t get into the details of their side. From our side they’ve made representations that that fight — if Canelo’s successful and if GGG’s successful — that they’ll do everything in their power to make sure that fight happens in the fall.”

On if Gennady is willing to fight Canelo a third time in Las Vegas considering the judging from the first two fights:

“Gennady love Vegas. We love Vegas. We love the MGM. We love the T-Mobile. We don’t love the judging, the scoring. Whether that’s a reflection of being in Vegas or not — when arguably you’ve won two fights in a row which a majority of the fans, a majority of the media thought Gennady won both those fights, at worst a draw in the second fight, and you only get one score out of six...there’s promoters out there based in Las Vegas that would call for an FBI investigation when you have one judge scoring 10 rounds to 2 for a fight that HBO scored 8 rounds to 4 for GGG...

“We’re not gonna dwell on those fights but the second fight with the 12th round clearly a GGG round and two of the judges scored it for Canelo. And that’s really what took Gennady’s titles away. If one of those judges scored it for GGG he’d still have all of his titles right now. So, you know, that makes [Vegas] a tough sell. Going back there naturally Gennady’s going to make the decision if it comes down to that, you know, where the fight would be...

“Again, there’s nothing against Las Vegas. We got the hand wrapping situation now straightened out with the commission. They’ve acknowledged that Abel was right the first time when he was protesting the hand wraps that Canelo was using and was being threatened to be thrown out of the locker room, which in the second fight they acknowledged that Abel was right, that there is a limited amount under their current rules...that they can put on, to apply on the hand wraps. So I’m not gonna say he’s not gonna go back to Vegas. Doing a third fight with Canelo in Vegas is probably challenging, but again, that’s Gennady’s decision, that’s up to Canelo and Golden Boy...”

..I've been wondering for quite a while who's in the driver's seat in the decision-making process: GGG or Loeffler...That interview above made it clear: it's DAZN..

If DAZN thinks I'm gonna shell out $20 for this trash they're sorely mistaken. I wouldn't even watch it for free.

Rolls is ranked #97 in the world. Nuff said.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 17:39 Should he have fought fielding?

Too big for Golovkin.

He would have made him melt down to 160.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 13:25 Too big for Golovkin.

He would have made him melt down to 160.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 17:39 Should he have fought fielding?

He should have picked between Khan, Liam Smith, Chavez Jr and Fielding.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 13:31 He should have picked between Khan, Liam Smith, Chavez Jr and Fielding.

Without his rudder, Abel Sanchez, I'd make Golovkin an underdog against all those guys.

He's falling apart at the seems.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 18:08 Without his rudder, Abel Sanchez, I'd make Golovkin an underdog against all those guys.

He's falling apart at the seems.

Very funny.

Sanchez didn’t really make Golovkin did he?

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boxing_rocks wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 18:24 Very funny.

You know it's not unusual for a fighter to fire his trainer as soon as he loses his first bout.

But it seems rather ungracious.

The trainer is good enough to lead his fighter to an unbeaten record for years, but takes the blame as soon as they finally lose.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 19:10 x

You know it's not unusual for a fighter to fire his trainer as soon as he loses his first bout.

But it seems rather ungracious.

The trainer is good enough to lead his fighter to an unbeaten record for years, but takes the blame as soon as they finally lose.

Not like it was his fault he lost. GGG could have easily won both bouts.

Former unified middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin took to social media and dropped a bombshell - the boxer has decided to part ways with longtime trainer Abel Sanchez.

"I would like to announce that I have made a major decision for myself and for my career. I want to build on what I have already achieved and continue to better myself. Therefore, I will not be training with Abel Sanchez. This was not an easy decision for me and it is not a reflection on Abel's professional abilities. He is a great trainer, a loyal trainer, and a Hall of Fame trainer," Golovkin stated.

"I will be announcing my new trainer at a later date. But today, I want to thank Abel for the lessons he taught me in boxing."

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 19:11 Not like it was his fault he lost. GGG could have easily won both bouts.

You'll have to discuss it with Golovkin as to his motives.

But I still feel he bristled when Sanchez told the Spanish media that Golovkin didn't deserve the second fight and didn't follow instruction.

Maybe Sanchez thought that Golovkin would never get wind of those Spanish comments.

Golovkin has recently fired his managers, resulting in a lawsuit, got rid of his promoter (K2) and has now it seem he’s stopped using the services of Abel Sanchez.

Even though Tom Loeffler is still involved with GGG, he is no longer responsible for making promotional decisions.

These are interesting developments. I’d be curious to see what has occurred behind the scenes to cause such widespread changes.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 19:15 You'll have to discuss it with Golovkin as to his motives.

But I still feel he bristled when Sanchez told the Spanish media that Golovkin didn't deserve the second fight and didn't follow instruction.

Maybe Sanchez thought that Golovkin would never get wind of those Spanish comments.

It boggles the mind that one's trainer would say those things. I'd have canned him the moment I got wind of it.

Sanchez had a different take on the split, claiming that Golovkin - upon signing his huge deal with DAZN - presented him with a cut in pay - and the veteran trainer rejected GGG's new payment proposal.

“As of today I will no longer be working with Gennady Golovkin. After a great 9-year run, records set and equaled, developing a Hall of Fame career and making it possible to sign a six-fight, $100 million contract with DAZN, he proposed and insisted on an insulting new trainer compensation schedule," Sanchez said in a statement to Yahoo Sports.

"My dignity and honor does not allow me to be screwed like that. It’s unfortunate being greedy, being ungrateful and no ethics, honor or integrity will end this relationship.”

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 19:17 Sanchez had a different take on the split, claiming that Golovkin - upon signing his huge deal with DAZN - presented him with a cut in pay - and the veteran trainer rejected GGG's new payment proposal.

“As of today I will no longer be working with Gennady Golovkin. After a great 9-year run, records set and equaled, developing a Hall of Fame career and making it possible to sign a six-fight, $100 million contract with DAZN, he proposed and insisted on an insulting new trainer compensation schedule," Sanchez said in a statement to Yahoo Sports.

"My dignity and honor does not allow me to be screwed like that. It’s unfortunate being greedy, being ungrateful and no ethics, honor or integrity will end this relationship.”

Poor Abel...his pvssy hurts.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 19:17 Sanchez had a different take on the split, claiming that Golovkin - upon signing his huge deal with DAZN - presented him with a cut in pay - and the veteran trainer rejected GGG's new payment proposal.

“As of today I will no longer be working with Gennady Golovkin. After a great 9-year run, records set and equaled, developing a Hall of Fame career and making it possible to sign a six-fight, $100 million contract with DAZN, he proposed and insisted on an insulting new trainer compensation schedule," Sanchez said in a statement to Yahoo Sports.

"My dignity and honor does not allow me to be screwed like that. It’s unfortunate being greedy, being ungrateful and no ethics, honor or integrity will end this relationship.”

Amazing.

I called him Greedy Golovkin when he tried to extort Golden Boy for additional money as the negotiation deadline neared for fight 2.

Now even Sanchez agrees with me. He sounds very very pissed off.

Golovkin is not the noble warrior so many of you believe him to be. He's a true mercenary.

Beneath that grinning, happy go lucky facade is just another ruthless businessman.

Nothing amazing. When it is acceptable to pay 10% of a 2-million purse to a trainer, it becomes way too high with a 30-million purse, especially when you feel that the trainer doesn't give you anything new.

You support Canelo's unwillingness to give a higher share to his opponent, but blame Golovkin for doing a similar thing.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 19:45 Nothing amazing. When it is acceptable to pay 10% of a 2-million purse to a trainer, it becomes way too high with a 30-million purse, especially when you feel that the trainer doesn't give you anything new.

You support Canelo's unwillingness to give a higher share to his opponent, but blame Golovkin for doing a similar thing.

I just said he wasn't the noble creature that he wants his fan base to believe he is.

I have no problem with Golovkin trying to get all he can. But just admit that money is a priority. Not just legacy, big fights and championships.

The naive always believed him.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 20:03 I just said he wasn't the noble creature that he wants his fan base to believe he is.

I have no problem with Golovkin trying to get all he can. But just admit that money is a priority. Not just legacy, big fights and championships.

The naive always believed him.

Money is definitely a priority now. Having encountered the dirty Vegas business and having been robbed of his dreams, Golovkin became the same as most in the business.