Joshua wants to fight Ortiz !

[Tony1244]

Please do.

I read what candyslim wrote above. Before I scrolled down I had a bet with myself that candy earned a

I lost the bet. It was a

[Onetimeonly]

Believe whatever you like. I've explained my attitude to Wilder many times and I've always been consistent.

You have, consistently irrational and biased.

[Onetimeonly]

I read what candyslim wrote above. Before I scrolled down I had a bet with myself that candy earned a

I lost the bet. It was a

I appreciate someone taking the time to tell me they're going to ignore me.

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Ortiz was at peak fitness when he knew about the Wilder bout 12 weeks prior to their fight-date, since he had only just competed and finished a training camp.

I admit I'm only speculating. It's pretty bad form though for a top rated fighter to be so far out of shape that 6 weeks isn't enough time to get fit, with no weight limit to hit. There's somewhere in the ballpark of $5mil on offer. Ortiz hasn't earned that much over the past 10 years, all fights combined, and won't be in line for anything close to that much for the rest of his career, unless he can get himself a mandatory position for Joshua.

Makes me wonder if there isn't some other reason. Again, it's speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if Haymon is blocking it, so as not to strengthen Joshua's position in future Wilder negotiations, should he win impressively (not suggesting he would).

It's all disappointing, whatever the reason. At least Joshua vs Hunter is still a better fight than Fury vs Schwarz.

[ValMar]

I admit I'm only speculating. It's pretty bad form though for a top rated fighter to be so far out of shape that 6 weeks isn't enough time to get fit, with no weight limit to hit. There's somewhere in the ballpark of $5mil on offer. Ortiz hasn't earned that much over the past 10 years, all fights combined, and won't be in line for anything close to that much for the rest of his career, unless he can get himself a mandatory position for Joshua.

Makes me wonder if there isn't some other reason. Again, it's speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if Haymon is blocking it, so as not to strengthen Joshua's position in future Wilder negotiations, should he win impressively (not suggesting he would).

It's all disappointing, whatever the reason. At least Joshua vs Hunter is still a better fight than Fury vs Schwarz.

I admit you might be right. So, it will be Hunter, likely (and unfortunately).............

[candyslim]

Oh dear I seem to have stepped on a few corns.

[boxing_rocks]

I admit I'm only speculating. It's pretty bad form though for a top rated fighter to be so far out of shape that 6 weeks isn't enough time to get fit, with no weight limit to hit. There's somewhere in the ballpark of $5mil on offer. Ortiz hasn't earned that much over the past 10 years, all fights combined, and won't be in line for anything close to that much for the rest of his career, unless he can get himself a mandatory position for Joshua.

Makes me wonder if there isn't some other reason. Again, it's speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if Haymon is blocking it, so as not to strengthen Joshua's position in future Wilder negotiations, should he win impressively (not suggesting he would).

It's all disappointing, whatever the reason. At least Joshua vs Hunter is still a better fight than Fury vs Schwarz.