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There are loads of controversies,it must be declared a NC

dagilechia wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 13:25 There are loads of controversies,it must be declared a NC

If the "Heavenly justice" exists, it will be a NC.

Boxrec doesnt say that this fight had wbo at stake (previously they did but now they dont)

There is zero chance this is getting changed, may as well buck up and stop crying about it.

But it seems that wbo belt was not oficially at stake - so Briedis could not win it in this fight. That the belt wasnt at stake is a scandal - if they will change it now it will be another scandal.

dagilechia wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 16:50 But it seems that wbo belt was not oficially at stake - so Briedis could not win it in this fight. That the belt wasnt at stake is a scandal - if they will change it now it will be another scandal.

You really need to stop.

oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 16:55 You really need to stop.

To stop what?

dagilechia wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 17:05 To stop what?

Stop posting on this fight. Let's move on.

It's not my fault that organization of this fight and officiating were so amateur-ish and controversial

dagilechia wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 17:08 It's not my fault that organization of this fight and officiating were so amateur-ish and controversial

You've made your points very clear. The ref lost control of the fight. I agree with that. Just getting redundant.

dagilechia wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 16:50 But it seems that wbo belt was not oficially at stake - so Briedis could not win it in this fight. That the belt wasnt at stake is a scandal - if they will change it now it will be another scandal.

They won't change it.

I didn't see it clearly when I was watching the fight, but here it is very clear

ya it was clearly an awful job by bryd, though i really like that first kd from briedis

But hold on - the elbow was immediately preceded by Glowacki viciously rabbit punching Briedis! That's why Briedis said he was getting back at him in the post fight interview. Here's the full fight:

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Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑19 Jun 2019, 00:36 I didn't see it clearly when I was watching the fight, but here it is very clear

That video highlighted more rule infringements than myself and the media pundits picked up on during the broadcast.

OMFG! The referee did a terrible job and Mairis Briedis should have been disqualified!

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑19 Jun 2019, 00:58 But hold on - the elbow was immediately preceded by Glowacki viciously rabbit punching Briedis! That's why Briedis said he was getting back at him in the post fight interview.

What's the point you're trying to make? Are you suggesting that fouls due to retaliation should excused and considered outside the scope of the rules?

Glowacki’s rabbit punch may have possibly been accidental (or at least they occur often enough to only receive a warning) and wasn’t seen by the ref, but Briedis’ intentionally thrown elbow was definitely witnessed by Robert Byrd.

Briedis might be a better fighter than Glowacki, but that’s irrelevant, since Mairis blatantly committed multiple fouls that should (under normal circumstances) warrant a DQ.

Glowacki rabbit punch barely landed, at the same time Briedis was holding his hand and made a dodge.. Anyway this punch landed with little power and almost on neck

Glowacki made his entrance first, without a belt

dagilechia wrote: ↑19 Jun 2019, 05:17 Glowacki rabbit punch barely landed, at the same time Briedis was holding his hand and made a dodge.. Anyway this punch landed with little power and almost on neck

Barely landed my ass. It landed full force, and there was a good bit of distance to get pretty much full power onto the shot. Or at least as much power as one can muster in a clinch.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Jun 2019, 04:36 That video highlighted more rule infringements than myself and the media pundits picked up on during the broadcast.

OMFG! The referee did a terrible job and Mairis Briedis should have been disqualified!

What's the point you're trying to make? Are you suggesting that fouls due to retaliation should excused and considered outside the scope of the rules?

Glowacki’s rabbit punch may have possibly been accidental (or at least they occur often enough to only receive a warning) and wasn’t seen by the ref, but Briedis’ intentionally thrown elbow was definitely witnessed by Robert Byrd.

Briedis might be a better fighter than Glowacki, but that’s irrelevant, since Mairis blatantly committed multiple fouls that should (under normal circumstances) warrant a DQ.

Breidis had a point deducted immediately for the Elbow. That was punishment enough.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Jun 2019, 05:50 Breidis had a point deducted immediately for the Elbow. That was punishment enough.

An accidental, but reckless, blow to the head with the elbow, where there was no clear injury or harm caused, should either be a strong warning or a single points’ deduction

However, when a fighter intentionally commits such a severe foul due to venomous anger, which results in their opponent being harmed for a prolonged period of time, then this should either be a two-point deduction or even a disqualification.

If the Glowacki-Briedis fight was staged in the UK, then under BBBofC rules, this probably would have resulted in Mairis being disqualified.

And it’s not surprising to see many UK media pundits claiming that Briedis should have been DQ’d and they were also shocked about Glowacki not being given time to recover.

You could argue that Briedis’ foul against Glowacki was far worse than the foul that Kash Ali committed against David Price.

That being said, Mairis Briedis was literally fighting in his hometown of Riga, which meant that one infringement alone would never have resulted in him being disqualified.

But the cumulative amount of fouls that he himself and his team committed, surely meant that he deserved to be disqualified:

• Throwing an intentional elbow to the face, which was seen by the ref
• Mairis’ own rabbit punch to Glowacki’s head, which led to the first knockdown
• Mairis’ trainer standing on the ring apron at the time of the Briedis rabbit punch that knocked down Glowacki
• Briedis clearly hearing the bell, but continued punching anyway, which led to Glowacki being decked for the second time nine seconds after the round had ended, with his own trainer stood inside the ring right next to him at the time of the incident (with both actions considered illegal)
• Briedis admitting during post-fight interviews to intentionally fighting dirty and that his deliberate Muay Thai elbow strike that was thrown out of sheer anger
• He also clearly admitted to hearing the bell, but continued punching anyway and then laughed about his own actions

I'm pretty sure that everything I've written above is true, especially the bullet-pointed issues.

I mean, how much of a free pass do you want this guy to receive? At what point do you personally choose to draw the line and say “enough’s enough, he needs to be DQ'd”?

I am not 100% sure but after the fight Briedis wasnt announced the "new WBO champion"

dagilechia wrote: ↑19 Jun 2019, 07:26 I am not 100% sure but after the fight Briedis wasnt announced the "new WBO champion"

The WBO have since confirmed that Briedis is their new champion, but the WBC withdrew their sanctioning of the fight due to a disagreement over the officials, after learning who those officials were.

I can’t imagine Briedis being allowed to retain ownership of the WBO belt, having the win being allowed to remain on his record and also proceeding straight to the finals of the WBSS. I suspect the outcome of the bout will eventually be overturned to become a no-contest with Mairis being forced to engage in an immediate rematch against Glowacki, perhaps on neutral soil.

Briedis (and his team, too) crossed the red line, absolutely. He had to be DQ-ed. Period !