BoxRec

jamamb wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:35 apologies for the self published novel btw

Dill has been acting the whiney part. Regardless of the events surrounding this.

maybe, but looking at the facts, ill support a whiney mopey guy whose clearly been screwed before and clearly the most deserving of all guys yet to fight for a title, over the wbc and there awesome attorneys

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:36 IBF rules dictated that Whyte would have only received a 25% purse split.

Check for yourself. Google is a wonderful tool.

I’m knocking them out of the ballpark today.

So? He wants to be a world champion doesnt he? He's had opportunities to get a shot but turned them down due to greed. End of story. No pity.

jamamb wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:39 maybe, but looking at the facts, ill support a whiney mopey guy whose clearly been screwed before and clearly the most deserving of all guys yet to fight for a title, over the wbc and there awesome attorneys

I can respect that. I just can't stand either side and just want the media fight to end. I'm sick of hearing about it.

Nondescript wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:40 So? He wants to be a world champion doesnt he? He's had opportunities to get a shot but turned them down due to greed. End of story. No pity.

just curious, when team ortiz called 7m a low ball after saying theyd fight for next to nothing, what makes you think he actually wouldve taken that whyte fight

jamamb wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:45 just curious, when team ortiz called 7m a low ball after saying theyd fight for next to nothing, what makes you think he actually wouldve taken that whyte fight

Are you talking about for Ortiz for fight Joshua at short notice?

Nondescript wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:46 Are you talking about for Ortiz for fight Joshua at short notice?

Fighters train all the time. 365 days of the year.

Ortiz used the same short-notice excuse against Whyte also.

On a side note, Ortiz tested positive for PED’s on two separate occasions.

Perhaps it didn’t fit with his cycle?

Nondescript wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:46 Are you talking about for Ortiz for fight Joshua at short notice?

a huge sum for a guy who he said and beat his chest and tweeteted that hed fight for nothing. and then initially claimed in the media they got lowballed and team aj werent serious. lol but then we know they lied about the offer, that they lied about fighting for nothing, and that louis didnt want it nearly as bad as he claimed in the media

how do you trust a guy like thats word? why do his tweets makes you think he actually is just as simple as 'ya, ill take the fight no matter what'

my point being, i dont know why its so clear at all that whyte-ortiz not happening must be due to whyte, whereas it is totally clear whyte was treated unfairly in other wyas

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:47 Fighters train all the time. 365 days of the year.

Ortiz used the same short-notice excuse against Whyte also.

On a side note, Ortiz tested positive for PED’s on two separate occasions.

Perhaps it didn’t fit with his cycle?

Interesting that you didnt answer my question on my reply to your post. Doesnt fit the narrative that you're trying to push though huh.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:47 Fighters train all the time. 365 days of the year.

No they don't. That's complete nonsense

jamamb wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:49 a huge sum for a guy who he said and beat his chest and tweeteted that hed fight for nothing. and then initially claimed in the media they got lowballed and team aj werent serious

how do you trust a guy like thats word? why do his tweets makes you think he actually is just as simple as 'ya, ill take the fight no matter what'

my point being, i dont know why its so clear at all that whyte-ortiz not happening must be due to whyte, whereas it is totally clear whyte was treated unfairly in other wyas

Im not even specifically talking about Ortiz though. Just that Whyte has had chances to fight for a world title or a guaranteed shot but turned them down because he wasnt happy with the money on offer. However when Ortiz has done the same thing, its said that he's ducking.

Nondescript wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:49 Interesting that you didnt answer my question on my reply to your post. Doesnt fit the narrative that you're trying to push though huh.

What question?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:52 What question?

Go back and read the post.

Nondescript wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:52 Im not even specifically talking about Ortiz though. Just that Whyte has had chances to fight for a world title or a guaranteed shot but turned them down because he wasnt happy with the money on offer. However when Ortiz has done the same thing, its said that he's ducking.

You’re conveniently omitting the fact he was low-balles preposterously.

Is Pulev and Miller worth millions more than Dillian Whyte?

If you think these guys are bigger (commercially) than a multiple time PPV start like Dillian Whyte, then you’re a fückïng moron!

The rematch between top British heavyweights Whyte and Joshua was initially on the cards for next weekend before the Body Snatcher turned down the offer of the rematch when they couldn't agree on a deal.

Speaking on the BBC documentary 'Fighting to be Champ' Whyte revealed that he had only been offered £4 million for the big fight - nearly a quarter of what was offered to Tyson Fury.

https://www.givemesport.com/1466122-dil ... -than-fury

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:55 You’re conveniently omitting the fact he was low-balles preposterously.

Is Pulev and Miller worth millions more than Dillian Whyte?

If you think these guys are bigger (commercially) than a multiple time PPV start like Dillian Whyte, then you’re a fückïng moron!

Miller would generate way more interest in the US than Whyte. Pulev is a bore.

Nondescript wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:54 Go back and read the post.

I already addressed whatever you wrote. If you thought I didn’t, then please prove otherwise.

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:56 Miller would generate way more interest in the US than Whyte. Pulev is a bore.

AJ-Miller in the UK is much bigger than AJ-Miller in the US.

Miller is anonymous in the US.

Please argue otherwise.

It would be rather comical to see you attempt to provide evidence justifying Miller’s superior commercial worth than Whyte’s.

Please argue with me on this!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:55 You’re conveniently omitting the fact he was low-balles preposterously.

Is Pulev and Miller worth millions more than Dillian Whyte?

If you think these guys are bigger (commercially) than a multiple time PPV start like Dillian Whyte, then you’re a fückïng moron!

Where did i say that either Pulev or Miller were worth millions more than Whyte? Dont put words in someones mouth.

Its not about that though, its about this narrative you're pushing of Whyte being this poor guy that just wont get given an opportunity. The fact is, he's had opportunities but has turned them down because he wasnt happy with the money on offer.

Nondescript wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:56 The rematch between top British heavyweights Whyte and Joshua was initially on the cards for next weekend before the Body Snatcher turned down the offer of the rematch when they couldn't agree on a deal.

Speaking on the BBC documentary 'Fighting to be Champ' Whyte revealed that he had only been offered £4 million for the big fight - nearly a quarter of what was offered to Tyson Fury.

https://www.givemesport.com/1466122-dil ... -than-fury

Your article actually supports my stance about Miller being paid far more than Whyte.

Are you a masochist? Do you enjoy self-harm?

Nondescript wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:59 Where did i say that either Pulev or Miller were worth millions more than Whyte? Dont put words in someones mouth.

Its not about that though, its about this narrative you're pushing of Whyte being this poor guy that just wont get given an opportunity. The fact is, he's had opportunities but has turned them down because he wasnt happy with the money on offer.

We’re not talking about the amateurs. Whyte has earned the right to refuse to be exploited.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 13:58 AJ-Miller in the UK is much bigger than AJ-Miller in the US.

Miller is anonymous in the US.

Please argue otherwise.

It would be rather comical to see you attempt to provide evidence justifying Miller’s superior commercial worth than Whyte’s.

Please argue with me on this!

You come back with AJ-Miller, but we were talking about Whyte. I said Miller is a better draw in the US than Whyte. You're hilarious!

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 14:01 You come back with AJ-Miller, but we were talking about Whyte. I said Miller is a better draw in the US than Whyte. You're hilarious!

Typo. AJ-Whyte (UK) > AJ-Miller (US)

Miller’s popularity = zero

Is that hilarious or have I silenced you?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 14:03 Typo. AJ-Whyte (UK) > AJ-Miller (US)

Miller’s popularity = zero

That's an exaggeration. Miller is more known in the states. The UK is another story. Boxing is way more popular in the UK.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jun 2019, 14:00 Your article actually supports my stance about Miller being paid far more than Whyte.

Are you a masochist? Do you enjoy self-harm?

Do you put effort into being annoying, or does it just come naturally to you?

A fighters commerical value is only as much as someone is willing to pay, DAZN didnt give a shit about Whyte in the US. They wanted an american fighter hence why Miller was picked, Do keep up.