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Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 04 Jul 2019, 18:32
by oogiebe
marvelous marv wrote: ↑04 Jul 2019, 18:27
Why not take an easy interim fight to work on a few things like sometime before December.
Ego.
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 04 Jul 2019, 18:32
by jamamb
ego waffles?
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 04 Jul 2019, 19:51
by coneye
oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Jul 2019, 18:32
marvelous marv wrote: ↑04 Jul 2019, 18:27
Why not take an easy interim fight to work on a few things like sometime before December.
Ego.
Not so sure its ego , more a sence of urgency to get the belts back , before Ruiz starts losing them
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 04 Jul 2019, 20:15
by oogiebe
coneye wrote: ↑04 Jul 2019, 19:51
Not so sure its ego , more a sence of urgency to get the belts back , before Ruiz starts losing them
He won't get them back.
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 04 Jul 2019, 23:59
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Jul 2019, 20:15
coneye wrote: ↑04 Jul 2019, 19:51
Not so sure its ego , more a sence of urgency to get the belts back , before Ruiz starts losing them
He won't get them back.
Yes he will. An interim fight sure as hell wouldn't change anything except for losing his rematch clause and the terms that came with it.
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 05 Jul 2019, 00:02
by Onetimeonly
marvelous marv wrote: ↑04 Jul 2019, 18:27
Why not take an easy interim fight to work on a few things like sometime before December.
That would cost him tens of millions.
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 05 Jul 2019, 00:15
by SenorPipino
Taking an easy interim fight would make it look like Joshua needs to go back to school to work the bugs out.
Suddenly the former unbeaten heavyweight champion becomes just another work in progress.
Tell Joshua that it's best that he works on his weaknesses before tackling Ruiz again, and his fragile confidence might completely melt away.
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 05 Jul 2019, 02:08
by Ilya Muromets
oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Jul 2019, 20:15
coneye wrote: ↑04 Jul 2019, 19:51
Not so sure its ego , more a sence of urgency to get the belts back , before Ruiz starts losing them
He won't get them back.
I don't think he'll get it back either and I don't think Ruiz will keep it for long either.
What happened to all the threads on here about "is joshua the greatest heavyweight of all time?"
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 05 Jul 2019, 03:26
by Luckybattles
If Ruiz gets past AJ I think he will hold the belts for a long time because he will be a cash cow. A Mexican heavyweight champ to many and probably a great white hope to others. He will be matched carefully by Harmon to ensure big profits. AJ and Wilder both feasted on guys that could probably not walk and chew gum at the same time. Ruiz will also feast on that level of opposition
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 05 Jul 2019, 04:17
by bigjack
oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Jul 2019, 20:15
coneye wrote: ↑04 Jul 2019, 19:51
Not so sure its ego , more a sence of urgency to get the belts back , before Ruiz starts losing them
He won't get them back.
Not from Ruiz anyway
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 05 Jul 2019, 07:08
by Enlightened-One
It seems that AJ’s game-plan for the Ruiz Jr. rematch is to constantly walk backwards in straight lines, throwing jabs, whilst refraining from moving his damn head! (just kidding)

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On a serious note though, Joshua’s training montage videos that he keeps posting via various social media platforms has a distinct lack of proof that he’s learning to move around the ring laterally or using effective head movement when throwing his combos.
AJ always seems to be moving in straight lines, standing straight-up, with his head remaining stationary, hence the reason why Andy Ruiz Jr. describes him as the robot.
Also, his elbows are being held far too high for my liking, because his torso is like a tree trunk, tailor-made for short stocky lumberjacks that are eager to chop him down gradually with body-shots in order to fell that tree.
Anthony Joshua is a very muscular guy, arguably carrying far too much muscle mass, so if his plan is to stick and move (as suggested by this video), whilst keeping Ruiz Jr. at arm’s length (at the end of his jab), then he’s going to have to do some serious work on his cardio!
To be honest, perhaps I’m being overly-critical and reading too much in snippets of training montage videos that probably don’t reflect the entirety of AJ’s training regimen.

Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 05 Jul 2019, 07:25
by Bard of Boxrec
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Jul 2019, 07:08
It seems that AJ’s game-plan for the Ruiz Jr. rematch is to constantly walk backwards in straight lines, throwing jabs, whilst refraining from moving his damn head! (just kidding)

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On a serious note though, Joshua’s training montage videos that he keeps posting via various social media platforms has a distinct lack of proof that he’s learning to move around the ring laterally or using effective head movement when throwing his combos.
AJ always seems to be moving in straight lines, standing straight-up, with his head remaining stationary, hence the reason why Andy Ruiz Jr. describes him as the robot.
Also, his elbows are being held far too high for my liking, because his torso is like a tree trunk, tailor-made for short stocky lumberjacks that are eager to chop him down gradually with body-shots in order to fell that tree.
Anthony Joshua is a very muscular guy, arguably carrying far too much muscle mass, so if his plan is to stick and move (as suggested by this video), whilst keeping Ruiz Jr. at arm’s length (at the end of his jab), then he’s going to have to do some serious work on his cardio!
To be honest, perhaps I’m being overly-critical and reading too much in snippets of training montage videos that probably don’t reflect the entirety of AJ’s training regimen.
Your bibles are a waste of energy. Joshua will just come into the rematch fighting smarter and pick off Ruiz on the way to a comfortable decision or late stoppage. That’s all there is to it

Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 05 Jul 2019, 07:41
by Enlightened-One
Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑05 Jul 2019, 07:25Joshua will just come into the rematch fighting smarter and pick off Ruiz on the way to a comfortable decision or late stoppage. That’s all there is to it
Unless something catastrophic happened to the Brit shortly before June 1st that could explain the reason for AJ’s defeat, which I seriously doubt, then the Ruiz Jr. rematch is going to be a really difficult fight for Anthony Joshua.
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 05 Jul 2019, 09:01
by greg
..among other things mentioned here and elsewhere, I believe AJ wasn't psychologically prepared to box outside of his comfort zone..to be on the safe side, Hearn should pay Ruiz extra and make sure Joshua keeps boxing in Britain..as a boxing fan though, I'll be POSITIVELY surprised if Hearn allows AJ to make a rematch in the States/Mexico...
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 05 Jul 2019, 10:20
by oogiebe
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑05 Jul 2019, 02:08
oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Jul 2019, 20:15
He won't get them back.
I don't think he'll get it back either and I don't think Ruiz will keep it for long either.
What happened to all the threads on here about "is joshua the greatest heavyweight of all time?"
LOL!

Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 05 Jul 2019, 10:21
by SenorPipino
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑05 Jul 2019, 02:08
oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Jul 2019, 20:15
He won't get them back.
I don't think he'll get it back either and I don't think Ruiz will keep it for long either.
What happened to all the threads on here about "is joshua the greatest heavyweight of all time?"
Those threads have gone the same route as Kalan.
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 05 Jul 2019, 20:37
by Finkel
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Jul 2019, 07:08
It seems that AJ’s game-plan for the Ruiz Jr. rematch is to constantly walk backwards in straight lines, throwing jabs, whilst refraining from moving his damn head! (just kidding)

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That guy isn't even trying to hit AJ with the towel.
No fornicating point if you are afraid to him with the thing.
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 07 Jul 2019, 20:28
by coneye
Normaly you would'nt take notice of , video's released , but i watch that and think ,,,,,what the ,,,, IF thats the sort of training there doing , some one wants to take Josh to one side and say , What the hell you doing , Just can't see what running backwards on a treadmill is gonna do for his footwork EXCEPT get him in the habit of running backwards in a straight line . Gets no benefit from that at all , he does'nt have the time to train like that , he should be practicing his moving to the side , back on angles , pivoting ,, ect . If he does 10 minuites of that rubbish its another hour to get him out of the bad habit he just developed .
A good coach DOES'NT allow his boxer to get in bad habits ,,, whats the towel buisness were there flies around he wanted to swat AFTER Aj threw his one jab , while once again , you could count when it was coming ,, he trains like a robot , that why he fights like a robot
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 05:38
by Bard of Boxrec
Folks with all this criticism of Joshua after the event are like those people who bought bitcoin at $15,000 and panic sold at $6,000

Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 07:51
by Enlightened-One
Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑08 Jul 2019, 05:38
Folks with all this criticism of Joshua after the event are like those people who bought bitcoin at $15,000 and panic sold at $6,000
This is a false statement. AJ’s ponderous footwork (i.e. inability to cut the ring off) and also his perceived lack of head-movement have been discussed at length many times by this forum for several years.
I can cite many examples of my own posts where I discussed Anthony Joshua’s perceived flaws years prior to his June 1st loss to Andy Ruiz Jr.
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 08:45
by Bard of Boxrec
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑08 Jul 2019, 07:51
Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑08 Jul 2019, 05:38
Folks with all this criticism of Joshua after the event are like those people who bought bitcoin at $15,000 and panic sold at $6,000
This is a false statement. AJ’s ponderous footwork (i.e. inability to cut the ring off) and also his perceived lack of head-movement have been discussed at length many times by this forum for several years.
I can cite many examples of my own posts where I discussed Anthony Joshua’s perceived flaws years prior to his June 1st loss to Andy Ruiz Jr.
No need to recall attention to your prior novels droning on about nothing, thank you. I sure you won’t be anyway once Joshua gets back to the top

Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 09:30
by Enlightened-One
Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑08 Jul 2019, 08:45
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑08 Jul 2019, 07:51
This is a false statement. AJ’s ponderous footwork (i.e. inability to cut the ring off) and also his perceived lack of head-movement have been discussed at length many times by this forum for several years.
I can cite many examples of my own posts where I discussed Anthony Joshua’s perceived flaws years prior to his June 1st loss to Andy Ruiz Jr.
No need to recall attention to your prior novels droning on about nothing, thank you. I sure you won’t be anyway once Joshua gets back to the top
Regardless of whether or not AJ eventually avenges his loss to Andy Ruiz Jr., that won’t detract from the fact that, like all world-rated heavyweights, he has flaws.
You shouldn’t pretend that many forum members are professing wisdom built on the foundation of hindsight, because this is nothing but pure nonsense!
Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 09:52
by Bard of Boxrec
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑08 Jul 2019, 09:30
Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑08 Jul 2019, 08:45
No need to recall attention to your prior novels droning on about nothing, thank you. I sure you won’t be anyway once Joshua gets back to the top
Regardless of whether or not AJ eventually avenges his loss to Andy Ruiz Jr., that won’t detract from the fact that, like all world-rated heavyweights, he has flaws.
You shouldn’t pretend that many forum members are professing wisdom built on the foundation of hindsight, because this is nothing but pure nonsense!
Many forum members are professing wisdom built on the foundation of hindsight

Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 09:55
by Heretic
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Jul 2019, 07:08
It seems that AJ’s game-plan for the Ruiz Jr. rematch is to constantly walk backwards in straight lines, throwing jabs, whilst refraining from moving his damn head! (just kidding)

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Now he also knows what to do if Ruiz tries to hit him with towel

Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH
Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 09:58
by Heretic
Heretic wrote: ↑08 Jul 2019, 09:55
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Jul 2019, 07:08
It seems that AJ’s game-plan for the Ruiz Jr. rematch is to constantly walk backwards in straight lines, throwing jabs, whilst refraining from moving his damn head! (just kidding)

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Now he also knows what to do if Ruiz tries to hit him with towel
On a more serious note you can see what they are trying to work on. Even on this exercise AJ leaves the left hand low after throwing jab.