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gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 19:06

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 18:51 Gotta think he means Floyd's TUEs

It'd be nice if somebody would post something in a language I can f*cking understand. The f*ck are TUE's now?

Noob

gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 18:45

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 12:59

Too bad Hopkins pulled out of the fight. Joe clearly beat nard, he literally bent him over. He was on the verge of quitting.

You mean they were in talks to fight in early 2002 or something?

They had an agreement, Hopkins bailed and I think his next fight was hakkar. I don't remember all the details, most likely an HBO/Showtime thing but it was all but on and nard pulled out. Joe would have always been an issue for him, so would Dawson. They both broke him.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 21:16

gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 18:45

You mean they were in talks to fight in early 2002 or something?

They had an agreement, Hopkins bailed and I think his next fight was hakkar. I don't remember all the details, most likely an HBO/Showtime thing but it was all but on and nard pulled out. Joe would have always been an issue for him, so would Dawson. They both broke him.

I recalled him not being able to work out deals with Roy Jones or James Toney in the 2002/2003 period, but I never recalled hearing talks of him fighting Joe Calzaghe back then.

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 19:08

gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 19:06

It'd be nice if somebody would post something in a language I can f*cking understand. The f*ck are TUE's now?

Therapeutic Use Exemption.

I never heard about that.

My good friend Michael Fafera sparred 6 rounds with BJS at Wincobank and said he was a great guy. Mike took his pal with him and he also said he was great. No attitude at all.

Just make sure you're not some rando on the street for Bill to film and humiliate for some juvenile laughs. Or for his kid to nut you.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Aug 2019, 16:59 Just make sure you're not some rando on the street for Bill to film and humiliate for some juvenile laughs

No, Mike and his pal aren’t crack addict prostitutes.

Ya that's all Bill's been up to and no one else got caught in it

I guess the prostitute had no balls for little Bill to bash after

Got to say Canelo tops the list ,, with the no rehydration , Canelo weight bullshit ,,, Seconded by Hatton , with his man of the people bollocks ,, and drug fucked , alchahol induced binges ,, also shown the loyalty of a snake with his original trainer , , falls out with his trainer then his father and mother , and its everyone else's fault ,

Was never that impressed with his win over Kosta either , , a guy who had'nt fought in a couple of years , coming in with a recurring shoulder injury , , and had to fight the referee has well , History will prove me wrong but facts are , Hatton built his legacy on the fact Kosta was well finished before his fight , not on beating a great in form boxer

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑05 Aug 2019, 03:47 I never really took to Pacquiao for some reason, not to the extent his career deserved anyway

It's the South Park Mr Mackey head which puts me off him.

I never liked Alan Minter, I thought he was really unpleasant. All that racist nonsense before the Hagler fight. Bit him on the bum, though! Chairs on heads, NF crowd, what an ar3e!

Before you point out the title of the thread, I had a book when I was a kid called "Britains Favourite Sportspeople 1980" and he was in that. So someone loved him.

coneye wrote: ↑28 Aug 2019, 18:17 Got to say Canelo tops the list ,, with the no rehydration , Canelo weight bullshit ,,, Seconded by Hatton , with his man of the people bollocks ,, and drug fucked , alchahol induced binges ,, also shown the loyalty of a snake with his original trainer , , falls out with his trainer then his father and mother , and its everyone else's fault ,

Was never that impressed with his win over Kosta either , , a guy who had'nt fought in a couple of years , coming in with a recurring shoulder injury , , and had to fight the referee has well , History will prove me wrong but facts are , Hatton built his legacy on the fact Kosta was well finished before his fight , not on beating a great in form boxer

I thought KT done over sharmba Mitchell convincingly just before the Hatton fight. My memory must be blurred.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2019, 09:59

coneye wrote: ↑28 Aug 2019, 18:17 Got to say Canelo tops the list ,, with the no rehydration , Canelo weight bullshit ,,, Seconded by Hatton , with his man of the people bollocks ,, and drug fucked , alchahol induced binges ,, also shown the loyalty of a snake with his original trainer , , falls out with his trainer then his father and mother , and its everyone else's fault ,

Was never that impressed with his win over Kosta either , , a guy who had'nt fought in a couple of years , coming in with a recurring shoulder injury , , and had to fight the referee has well , History will prove me wrong but facts are , Hatton built his legacy on the fact Kosta was well finished before his fight , not on beating a great in form boxer

I thought KT done over sharmba Mitchell convincingly just before the Hatton fight. My memory must be blurred.

Yeah he did, put him over about 5 times before stopping him in the 3rd.

Shhhh wrote: ↑30 Aug 2019, 10:08 Don’t like Hatton anymore aftrrr his gimp mask stuff

I never liked from the beginning.

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑08 Aug 2019, 11:27Yes sure some hide that vicious streak with a fake smile outside the ring, Ali just didn’t bother.

Patterson was legit, and Forrest seemed decent enough. Julian Jackson; Woods and Johnson; loads of top-level guys...

BigGar wrote: ↑08 Aug 2019, 14:34Wish we'd seen hopkins v Calzaghe when Hopkins was far active during rounds. I'm a calzaghe fan but don't think he'd have beaten the Hopkins that beat Trinidad.

If you rewatch the Mitchell fight from 2003, Calzaghe mentioned Hopkins in the post-fight interview. That would've been five years earlier.

Filed under Collins-Jones.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2019, 09:59

coneye wrote: ↑28 Aug 2019, 18:17 Got to say Canelo tops the list ,, with the no rehydration , Canelo weight bullshit ,,, Seconded by Hatton , with his man of the people bollocks ,, and drug fucked , alchahol induced binges ,, also shown the loyalty of a snake with his original trainer , , falls out with his trainer then his father and mother , and its everyone else's fault ,

Was never that impressed with his win over Kosta either , , a guy who had'nt fought in a couple of years , coming in with a recurring shoulder injury , , and had to fight the referee has well , History will prove me wrong but facts are , Hatton built his legacy on the fact Kosta was well finished before his fight , not on beating a great in form boxer

I thought KT done over sharmba Mitchell convincingly just before the Hatton fight. My memory must be blurred.

No your memories not blurred he blasted him away , thats why i did'nt count that one , it was just Kosta belting him out there easy , was'nt really even a proper tune up after the time out and especielly with the shoulder never fully recovered , For most it was a great BRITISH win , for me , it was getting an old fighter at the right time ,after a lenghty lay off , with a recurring injury ,, then having a ref who idolized Hatton let him get away with blue murder and i will go has far as to say even styfling Kosta's fight with the blatant ignoring the rule book , but only in Hattons favor , Kosta had 2 opponents that night , Hatton the man of the people , and the ref , Hattons right hand man

coneye wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 02:46

Steveh583 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2019, 09:59
I thought KT done over sharmba Mitchell convincingly just before the Hatton fight. My memory must be blurred.

No your memories not blurred he blasted him away , thats why i did'nt count that one , it was just Kosta belting him out there easy , was'nt really even a proper tune up after the time out and especielly with the shoulder never fully recovered , For most it was a great BRITISH win , for me , it was getting an old fighter at the right time ,after a lenghty lay off , with a recurring injury ,, then having a ref who idolized Hatton let him get away with blue murder and i will go has far as to say even styfling Kosta's fight with the blatant ignoring the rule book , but only in Hattons favor , Kosta had 2 opponents that night , Hatton the man of the people , and the ref , Hattons right hand man

Agree with most of that, but will say that a) Hatton wasn't the only one bending the rules. KT wasn't being squeaky clean in there. And b) KT was still VERY capable. It was an iconic moment and a good night, but in hindsight, not the victory Ricky likes to believe it was. But still a great win.

Bellew.

He is a weapon.

Not sure he was loved but he was so average and i didnt like him one bit. Usyk smashing him was beautiful.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 08:46

coneye wrote: ↑31 Aug 2019, 02:46

No your memories not blurred he blasted him away , thats why i did'nt count that one , it was just Kosta belting him out there easy , was'nt really even a proper tune up after the time out and especielly with the shoulder never fully recovered , For most it was a great BRITISH win , for me , it was getting an old fighter at the right time ,after a lenghty lay off , with a recurring injury ,, then having a ref who idolized Hatton let him get away with blue murder and i will go has far as to say even styfling Kosta's fight with the blatant ignoring the rule book , but only in Hattons favor , Kosta had 2 opponents that night , Hatton the man of the people , and the ref , Hattons right hand man

Agree with most of that, but will say that a) Hatton wasn't the only one bending the rules. KT wasn't being squeaky clean in there. And b) KT was still VERY capable. It was an iconic moment and a good night, but in hindsight, not the victory Ricky likes to believe it was. But still a great win.

Kosta was trying to bend the rules , BACK , but being pulled up whenever he gave back what he was recieving , has far has english / british fans go , Hatton will probably always be revered for that performance , but myself as an englishman living in Aust and a BIG BIG FAN of Kosta , ever since seeing him live at the world championships , i just can't give Hatton the big Kudo's that most gave him , after that fight he really did'nt set the world on fire and go on to beat really good fighters , he had a lot of help in the Kosta fight ,, but heh Kosta quit , and for that Hatton has to claim some Kudo's , just that i think Kosta was finished he knew it his corner knew it so he took the loss made the money and lived happilly ever after , . Still did'nt make Hatton great

Tszuyu beating Forrest in the Worlds was one of the best boxing displays I have ever seen amateur or pro. It's the Aussie Tv version that's up on YouTube the Aussie commentators were going nuts for Tszuyu (rightly so)

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