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dagilechia wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 16:17

Shhhh wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 15:55

He leaves himself very open and is not difficult to hit

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I've watched the Sęk fight too and yeah Yarde is too open, raw and lacks in his skillset and experience are evident, visible. I don't say he's bad, Just imo evidently not the top 5 or even top 10 skill wise, he has some pop in his punches but for now i cant see him being a threat for Kovalyov as he is clearly limited. He has top potential maybe but for now i am in the "its too early for such a step up" camp. Kovalyov is an offensive monster, much better technically, much better jab, his power is at worst comparable to Yarde's, the Russian is not great in defensive aspects but imo Yarde is even easier to hit.

Jesus. You’ve got high expectations for your prospects. Lacking in skill set. Clearly limited

I also love how the Sek fight is now some flagship example of how open Yarde is, when there is literally 3 seconds in round 6 where Sek lands a couple of glancing shots, and gets beats up for every second of the rest of the fight

ironbeard wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 16:25

Shhhh wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 16:22

Yeh Yarde has talent but wiv only 12 amateur and 18 pro is too far behind in experience IMO

Btw, I completely agree that he has been entirely too open. If he gets in with Kov like that, his only hope is to land large first.

Where has he been too open? Do you guys have any actual examples, or are you just saying random words ?

Yarde hasn’t been hit with anything big yet. That’s the whole reason we don’t have much idea how he will react when he gets hit by kovalev, because there’s so little he’s had to take. And that’s in part because, no, he isn’t ‘entirely too open’.

A basic look at his fights shows he knows what he’s doing in there defensively, rolls well, blocks well, decent guard, very good reflexes, seems able to hold his own against inside action.

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 19:21

ironbeard wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 16:25
Btw, I completely agree that he has been entirely too open. If he gets in with Kov like that, his only hope is to land large first.

Where has he been too open? Do you guys have any actual examples, or are you just saying random words ?

Yarde hasn’t been hit with anything big yet. That’s the whole reason we don’t have much idea how he will react when he gets hit by kovalev, because there’s so little he’s had to take. And that’s in part because, no, he isn’t ‘entirely too open’.

A basic look at his fights shows he knows what he’s doing in there defensively, rolls well, blocks well, decent guard, very good reflexes, seems able to hold his own against inside action.

He has been too open v low end comp. I have already posted that it is very possible that he will tighten up against the greater threat, but we have no way of knowing until the fight happens.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JiFpYJ7y_5E

If you cannot see how open Yarde was to the overhand right and left hook v Reeves I don’t know what to say about your eye sight. Reeves was obviously out gunned and Yarde has no respect for his power, but that does not change the fact that he was wide open.

Sjek even landed too many unnecessary right hands, and a couple of lhooks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RYMO7o8us8w

Comparing Yarde to Spence should not be considered a major criticism. But, if he is as open v Kovalev he is going to get seriously hurt.

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 19:14 I also love how the Sek fight is now some flagship example of how open Yarde is, when there is literally 3 seconds in round 6 where Sek lands a couple of glancing shots, and gets beats up for every second of the rest of the fight

Sęk Just wasn't good enough to take advantage of that, Kovalyov will do that though

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 18:41

dagilechia wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 16:17
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I've watched the Sęk fight too and yeah Yarde is too open, raw and lacks in his skillset and experience are evident, visible. I don't say he's bad, Just imo evidently not the top 5 or even top 10 skill wise, he has some pop in his punches but for now i cant see him being a threat for Kovalyov as he is clearly limited. He has top potential maybe but for now i am in the "its too early for such a step up" camp. Kovalyov is an offensive monster, much better technically, much better jab, his power is at worst comparable to Yarde's, the Russian is not great in defensive aspects but imo Yarde is even easier to hit.

Jesus. You’ve got high expectations for your prospects. Lacking in skill set. Clearly limited

You mean he doesn't have any lacks? Is he already a complete fighter in your opinion?

What he actually does better than Kovalyov does?

dagilechia wrote: ↑18 Aug 2019, 01:15

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 18:41

Jesus. You’ve got high expectations for your prospects. Lacking in skill set. Clearly limited

What he actually does better than Kovalyov does?

Air travel

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑18 Aug 2019, 01:44

dagilechia wrote: ↑18 Aug 2019, 01:15

What he actually does better than Kovalyov does?

Air travel

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑18 Aug 2019, 01:44

dagilechia wrote: ↑18 Aug 2019, 01:15

What he actually does better than Kovalyov does?

Air travel

ironbeard wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 21:52

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 19:21
Where has he been too open? Do you guys have any actual examples, or are you just saying random words ?

Yarde hasn’t been hit with anything big yet. That’s the whole reason we don’t have much idea how he will react when he gets hit by kovalev, because there’s so little he’s had to take. And that’s in part because, no, he isn’t ‘entirely too open’.

A basic look at his fights shows he knows what he’s doing in there defensively, rolls well, blocks well, decent guard, very good reflexes, seems able to hold his own against inside action.

He has been too open v low end comp. I have already posted that it is very possible that he will tighten up against the greater threat, but we have no way of knowing until the fight happens.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JiFpYJ7y_5E

If you cannot see how open Yarde was to the overhand right and left hook v Reeves I don’t know what to say about your eye sight. Reeves was obviously out gunned and Yarde has no respect for his power, but that does not change the fact that he was wide open.

Sjek even landed too many unnecessary right hands, and a couple of lhooks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RYMO7o8us8w

Comparing Yarde to Spence should not be considered a major criticism. But, if he is as open v Kovalev he is going to get seriously hurt.

Open but... still didn’t really get hit

Was prime Roy Jones open, just because he had his hands down?

I think you’re right about Yarde neglecting defence because he knew he could walk through the guy, but guess what, when you look at that compared to the Sek fight, Yarde has tightened up and is more patient and controlled.

And if you think Sek caught Yarde with anything meaningful for more than 4 seconds of the entire fight, I don’t know what to say about YOUR eyesight.

dagilechia wrote: ↑18 Aug 2019, 01:15

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 18:41

Jesus. You’ve got high expectations for your prospects. Lacking in skill set. Clearly limited

You mean he doesn't have any lacks? Is he already a complete fighter in your opinion?

What he actually does better than Kovalyov does?

I know English isn’t your first language but if you’re going to describe a young fighter as ‘lacking in skill set’ and ‘clearly limited’, that fits someone like Nathan Gorman, not Anthony Yarde. There’s no way the punch variety Yarde shows, the accuracy, poise, distance, and speed, befit someone who is ‘clearly limited’. It’s just plain wrong to describe him as that.

I suspect this is the age-old case of people lazily deciding to put guys noted as punchers in a box “he’s just a big puncher and a bully, he must not be allowed to actually have boxing skills”. People used to do it with Kovalev, even up until the Ward fight!

In terms of improvement he needs to use his jab more. He also moves well but could be on his toes more.

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑18 Aug 2019, 03:53

dagilechia wrote: ↑18 Aug 2019, 01:15
You mean he doesn't have any lacks? Is he already a complete fighter in your opinion?

What he actually does better than Kovalyov does?

I know English isn’t your first language but if you’re going to describe a young fighter as ‘lacking in skill set’ and ‘clearly limited’, that fits someone like Nathan Gorman, not Anthony Yarde. There’s no way the punch variety Yarde shows, the accuracy, the distance, and speed, befit someone who is ‘clearly limited’. It’s just plain wrong to describe him as that.

In terms of improvement he needs to use his jab more. He also moves well but could be on his toes more.

It has nothing to do with my language skilks, i really think he is limited and lacks skillset. BUT I mean compared to top fighter like Kovalyov, because compared to other prospects and for a guy with such a small experience yes he is very decent. He has a poor jab and he is too open, his movement is decent but not great too, he wouldn't keep Kovalyov out of him for too long, the Russian will expose him. That said, Yarde has a future potential but for now, the eye test clearly suggest he's not enough for the top fighters.

I May be wrong of course. Its Just my opinion.

dagilechia wrote: ↑18 Aug 2019, 04:14

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑18 Aug 2019, 03:53

I know English isn’t your first language but if you’re going to describe a young fighter as ‘lacking in skill set’ and ‘clearly limited’, that fits someone like Nathan Gorman, not Anthony Yarde. There’s no way the punch variety Yarde shows, the accuracy, the distance, and speed, befit someone who is ‘clearly limited’. It’s just plain wrong to describe him as that.

In terms of improvement he needs to use his jab more. He also moves well but could be on his toes more.

It has nothing to do with my language skilks, i really think he is limited and lacks skillset. BUT I mean compared to top fighter like Kovalyov, because compared to other prospects and for a guy with such a small experience yes he is very decent. He has a poor jab and he is too open, his movement is decent but not great too, he wouldn't keep Kovalyov out of him for too long, the Russian will expose him. That said, Yarde has a future potential but for now, the eye test clearly suggest he's not enough for the top fighters.

I May be wrong of course. Its Just my opinion.

Well describing him as limited in relation to kovalev is different. By that criteria, the vast majority of fighters will be limited. I talk about his skills on an absolute level, which is how most people go about it.

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑18 Aug 2019, 03:47

ironbeard wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 21:52
He has been too open v low end comp. I have already posted that it is very possible that he will tighten up against the greater threat, but we have no way of knowing until the fight happens.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JiFpYJ7y_5E

If you cannot see how open Yarde was to the overhand right and left hook v Reeves I don’t know what to say about your eye sight. Reeves was obviously out gunned and Yarde has no respect for his power, but that does not change the fact that he was wide open.

Sjek even landed too many unnecessary right hands, and a couple of lhooks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RYMO7o8us8w

Comparing Yarde to Spence should not be considered a major criticism. But, if he is as open v Kovalev he is going to get seriously hurt.

Open but... still didn’t really get hit

Was prime Roy Jones open, just because he had his hands down?

I think you’re right about Yarde neglecting defence because he knew he could walk through the guy, but guess what, when you look at that compared to the Sek fight, Yarde has tightened up and is more patient and controlled.

And if you think Sek caught Yarde with anything meaningful for more than 4 seconds of the entire fight, I don’t know what to say about YOUR eyesight.

My eyesight is really bad related to the Sek fight since I have not seen it.

All I have said on here is that Yarde has been too open v lower level competition, as Spence was when he largely disregarded incoming v opponents he lacked respect for, power wise. If Yarde is able to tighten up the way Spence has at high level, he has a very good chance to defeat the long in the tooth lion.

If not, he is going to catch an overhand right to the temple closely followed by a clipper left hook. Then we will find out what kind of beard Yarde has.

The fact that Team GingerHead is so proactive about getting Kov in the ring suggests that they believe that he is ready to fall from the tree. Add to that the hometown, Russian distractions and there is ample reason to have hope for an upset . . . if Yarde tightens up his defense.

Apologies, you said Sjek and I thought you meant Sek.

Maybe watch the Sek fight then. Yarde hardly takes anything and his defence looks sound.

No matter what happens, Yarde won’t get credit for this contest unless he wins and Kovalev goes on to have a high level win or two of his own.
If he wins and Kovalev retires, he beat an old alcoholic who used to be good.
If he loses, then he lost to an old alcoholic who used to be good.

I give Yarde big credit if he wins. People talk of Kov's downfall, but in his last two fights with the good Eledier Alvarez he arguably lost no more than 2 rounds and he has never lost to or been close to losing to anything but good opposition. He had legal issues before the Alvarez rematch too, but then still dominated

Remember, Yarde is a guy so many people were crying about not fighting Callum Johnson or Burton. Beating even a faded Kov has to rate far above that

I will even give him credit if he loses in good fashion because i expect it to be one sided on Kovalyov s favour

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Aug 2019, 14:22 I give Yarde big credit if he wins. People talk of Kov's downfall, but in his last two fights with the good Eledier Alvarez he arguably lost no more than 2 rounds and he has never lost to or been close to losing to anything but good opposition. He had legal issues before the Alvarez rematch too, but then still dominated

Remember, Yarde is a guy so many people were crying about not fighting Callum Johnson or Burton. Beating even a faded Kov has to rate far above that

I was one of those people!
And for good reason. Yarde skipped the domestic route, didn't even prove he was the best in Britain, then didn't prove he was the best in Europe but won and defended WBO Euro against guys I had to look up to see who the heck they were
. Now he is fighting for a world title
I don't think he has gone the right way about it. It's obviously not entirely up to him.
I/we don't know what level he is at.
It seems weird to me.
Call me old fashioned, but a British boxer works his way from area- British- commonwealth- European- world. This gives them the foundation to mix it at the top level. I could be wrong, but I believe Yarde is out of his depth, inexperienced at the B level, and I only give him a puncher's chance here.
It's not what I would expect of Fwank either.