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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Dec 2019, 07:58

DrDuke wrote: ↑22 Dec 2019, 07:53

That wasn't the only problem of Efe in this fight. That wasn't some lucky punch or whatever. Ajagba was taking shots since the beginning, he wasn't too variable in the offence and critically lacked a killer instinct, finishing skills. Probably he overlooked Kiladze, anyway he now has a lot of things to work on.

A young prospect needs these types of fights. That’s how you learn. Simple. Doesn’t mean he’s not good, but he’s gonna learn from these mistakes. He and his team will watch this back.

He’ll kick himself for walking away when he could have finished Kiladze. Which led to his own KD.

I don’t really rate Efe as much as quite a few on this board. I think a number of guys on here are literally sat on Efe’s d+*k the way they talk about him.

Not saying I don’t think he’s good. He’s still learning. He’s getting and will get better.

I argee. This will be a great experience for Efe. And I also don't worship him, although I rate him among the best prospects. Talking about them, I'd pick Hrgovic as the most promising.

DrDuke wrote: ↑22 Dec 2019, 08:12

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Dec 2019, 07:58

A young prospect needs these types of fights. That’s how you learn. Simple. Doesn’t mean he’s not good, but he’s gonna learn from these mistakes. He and his team will watch this back.

He’ll kick himself for walking away when he could have finished Kiladze. Which led to his own KD.

I don’t really rate Efe as much as quite a few on this board. I think a number of guys on here are literally sat on Efe’s d+*k the way they talk about him.

Not saying I don’t think he’s good. He’s still learning. He’s getting and will get better.

I argee. This will be a great experience for Efe. And I also don't worship him, although I rate him among the best prospects. Talking about them, I'd pick Hrgovic as the most promising.

Well said Duke. Except the part about Hrg. Dubs is by far the leading prospect and Hrg hasn't impressed enough to be considered the most promising.

DrDuke wrote: ↑22 Dec 2019, 08:12

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Dec 2019, 07:58

A young prospect needs these types of fights. That’s how you learn. Simple. Doesn’t mean he’s not good, but he’s gonna learn from these mistakes. He and his team will watch this back.

He’ll kick himself for walking away when he could have finished Kiladze. Which led to his own KD.

I don’t really rate Efe as much as quite a few on this board. I think a number of guys on here are literally sat on Efe’s d+*k the way they talk about him.

Not saying I don’t think he’s good. He’s still learning. He’s getting and will get better.

I argee. This will be a great experience for Efe. And I also don't worship him, although I rate him among the best prospects. Talking about them, I'd pick Hrgovic as the most promising.

Hrgovic has zero defense. I'd have to go with Dubois at this time

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Dec 2019, 07:58

DrDuke wrote: ↑22 Dec 2019, 07:53

That wasn't the only problem of Efe in this fight. That wasn't some lucky punch or whatever. Ajagba was taking shots since the beginning, he wasn't too variable in the offence and critically lacked a killer instinct, finishing skills. Probably he overlooked Kiladze, anyway he now has a lot of things to work on.

A young prospect needs these types of fights. That’s how you learn. Simple. Doesn’t mean he’s not good, but he’s gonna learn from these mistakes. He and his team will watch this back.

He’ll kick himself for walking away when he could have finished Kiladze. Which led to his own KD.

I don’t really rate Efe as much as quite a few on this board. I think a number of guys on here are literally sat on Efe’s d+*k the way they talk about him.

Not saying I don’t think he’s good. He’s still learning. He’s getting and will get better.

You say that and the rest of the forum believes it’s entirely reasonable.

I say precisely the same thing in the same manner and I’m considered a hater.

I’ve previously conveyed my thoughts about Ajagba’s stylistic weaknesses and was aggressively criticised for my opinion,

However after Ajagba’s most recent bout, all I hear is silence, other than a few critiquing the Nigerian’s weaknesses in precisely the same manner I’d previously conveyed.

No one awards me kudos for claims they agree with today, but aggressively ridiculed a year or so ago.

I maintained while back he was a sub-Charles Martin style of fighter.
he wont progress much further than Martin.

funso banjo baby wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 06:05 I maintained while back he was a sub-Charles Martin style of fighter.
he wont progress much further than Martin.

Martin lost last time, but showed at least he can handle a contender. But lets see how long he sticks around. Im sort of impressed after seeing him as a paperchamp who got it on a fluke or what you call it.

Ajagbe got the job done albeit in an untidy almost amateurish way including getting knocked on his ass quite easily.

looked to me like he was trying too hard to make a KO statement rather than box .

he has potential but currently nothing to get too excited about frankly .

Paci wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 06:41 Martin lost last time, but showed at least he can handle a contender. But lets see how long he sticks around. Im sort of impressed after seeing him as a paperchamp who got it on a fluke or what you call it.

Maybe not.. It's not easy being a HW champion, unless some is stripped of all the belts or a champion retires. When was the last time we had 4 different champions floating around? Doesn't last long.

stevec@france wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 06:50 Ajagbe got the job done albeit in an untidy almost amateurish way including getting knocked on his ass quite easily.

looked to me like he was trying too hard to make a KO statement rather than box .

he has potential but currently nothing to get too excited about frankly .

HW's are made to be knocked down or out.. It's part of the game. Name me a HW in recent memory who has had more than 20 fights that hasn't been knocked down?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 08:36
Maybe not.. It's not easy being a HW champion, unless some is stripped of all the belts or a champion retires. When was the last time we had 4 different champions floating around? Doesn't last long.

Have no hard feelings against Martin. Just saying lucky bastard, first getting a belt even if he lost against AJ in his first defence. Cause that smilie didn't leave his face either way. That had to be a nice paycheck.

Somebody will get them all, if the politics works out. Lets see who wins the next big one(Wilder vs Fury II). And all the puriest can get themself a "new" lineal champ again.

An undisputed champ would be nice. Not seen that since Lewis, who dropped the WBA a while after winning it. Still the top dog, but politics are what they are in business side of the sport.

Purses

Efe Ajagba: $15,000
Kiladze: $20,000

Any Efe fans pissed off at this?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 12:10

Great fight there betwwen Efe and Iago?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 13:14

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 12:10

Great fight there betwwen Efe and Iago?

Posted the wrong fight.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 13:16

Kiladze is difinitly taller than 6'3.5" and has longer than 79 inch reach. I can't see much size difference. He is a big heavyweight who isn't fat but fast with power too, and can hit you if you rush for KO.

Unlike midget short hand japanese bum that Daniel Dubious fought, had nothing to offer.

Lol, even hyping Iago 'Punch Bag' Kiladze now

He must be 6'5 with a 90 inch reach

Funny enough, he was KTFO faster and easier by a 6 foot cruiserweight

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 14:15 Lol, even hyping Iago 'Punch Bag' Kiladze now

He must be 6'5 with a 90 inch reach

Funny enough, he was KTFO faster and easier by a 6 foot cruiserweight

You trolling again ... there was no drama in this fight, apart from accidental knock down, Ajagba got up fast and mulled Iago kaldzie to end fight.