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Impractical Poster wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 19:41

RonnyJ wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 18:40

Manny was the aggressor. There were a lot of close rds in that fight, whoever is the aggressor and does a litle more than his opponent wins the close rd. Manny won the close rds and landed the harder shots.

The fake stats also counted floyds air punches or punches to mannys guard. These fake stats are funny. I remember that youtube video where they counted every single punch landed in a rd where cotto dominated floyd and at the end it was something like 28 landed for cotto and 12 for floyd, the fake stats had something like 20 floyd 8 cotto. Those punch counters are bought!

Crazy that you're still dealing with this loss almost 5 years later.

Finkel wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 22:10

tiny_acres wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 20:48

Typical though.
People are still arguing over the Lewis Klitchko stoppage

I want to preface this by saying I thought at the time and still do that Mayweather won overall, he landed the cleaner (definitely more eye-catching punches), and controlled space and had the better defence.

BUT to be fair the punch stars were extremely controversial.

Here are the stats from a breakdown of the fight by the daily mail website in the UK.



Pacquiao landed a hell of a lot of punches around or through Mayweathers guard. In response Mayweather would then shake his head to suggest nothing got through. Gamesmanship...
But at the same time Pacquiao quite often was reaching to connect, whilst Mayweather had his feet set and would punch through the target.

Having said that, as can be seen above Mayweather was outlanded by wide margins in a number of rounds. But again in the tight rounds I think it goes to Mayweather by looking at other factors such as ring generalship, effective aggression, and superior defence.

The punch stats as counted in the heat of the night are profoundly suspect (one US commentator who had Pacquaio winning asked if they were compiled by ‘kids from the HBO and Showtime offices’ and was told ‘Yes.’)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxin ... ision.html

p.s. Is it any coincidence that those posters suggesting Mayweather clearly outlanded Pacquiao, on his way to a clear clear victory, 11-1 etc. etc. also think Wilder drew or won against Fury in what they call a very close fight?

Finkel wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 02:41

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 01:05

Whom would that be?

Whom indeed...
One should ask oneself, "Whose nuts do I hug?"

But, perhaps some things just have to remain one of life's big mysteries

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 12:26

Finkel wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 02:41

Whom indeed...
One should ask oneself, "Whose nuts do I hug?"

But, perhaps some things just have to remain one of life's big mysteries

Hey, even an invented accusation should have a name attached. No worries, we both know you're full of poo.

Finkel wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 18:58 Listen to your friend, Onetimeonly, he's trying to help you.

Anyway, as amusing an exercise as it would be quote mining you. I don't think it's necessary for me to read through your vast outpourings of man-love for your two nubian gods

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 19:20 Hearns and holyfield for life!

oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 19:48

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 19:20 Hearns and holyfield for life!

So "quote mining" is a thing now? Very creepy.

Finkel wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 19:56
I thought that might set you two off again

RonnyJ wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 18:40

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑01 Dec 2019, 14:10 Anyone who thinks Manny beat Floyd has got issues.

Manny was the aggressor. There were a lot of close rds in that fight, whoever is the aggressor and does a litle more than his opponent wins the close rd. Manny won the close rds and landed the harder shots.

The fake stats also counted floyds air punches or punches to mannys guard. These fake stats are funny. I remember that youtube video where they counted every single punch landed in a rd where cotto dominated floyd and at the end it was something like 28 landed for cotto and 12 for floyd, the fake stats had something like 20 floyd 8 cotto. Those punch counters are bought!

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 21:50 The Parker fight wasn't close

drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 21:49 Joshua fought on very close terms with Parker. The scoring margin in that fight was much wider than it should have been. Joshua looked lack luster against Carlos Takam. He was being schooled by an aged Povetkin before stopping him. And finally, he was absolutely destroyed by Andy Ruiz who looked like he had just gotten up off a bar stool. Wilder and Fury have had some iffy performances but Joshua has had enough for both of them. He has to redeem himself before being called “ The Best..”

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 23:17

drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 21:49 Joshua fought on very close terms with Parker. The scoring margin in that fight was much wider than it should have been. Joshua looked lack luster against Carlos Takam. He was being schooled by an aged Povetkin before stopping him. And finally, he was absolutely destroyed by Andy Ruiz who looked like he had just gotten up off a bar stool. Wilder and Fury have had some iffy performances but Joshua has had enough for both of them. He has to redeem himself before being called “ The Best..”

Lol, unbiased take here.

DrDuke wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 18:35 Joshua improved, but still he's not the best. No one can be the best, while The Gypsy King is out there.

RonnyJ wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 18:37

DrDuke wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 18:35 Joshua improved, but still he's not the best. No one can be the best, while The Gypsy King is out there.

You mean the man who was close to losing against c level wallin and has ugly to watch style