Where would you rank Tyson Fury in British history?

[Grilling Machine]

I still would have LOVED to have seen Fury vs Haye when they were scheduled to fight.

Price, Haye, and the Wlad rematch. Looking ahead, I'd like to see him fight AJ and the Dubois-Joyce winner.

It's easy to laugh at Price now, but timing was everything with that one. Ditto Haye, whose prime ended with the injuries he picked up in training.

[danconnollyeire]

I still would have LOVED to have seen Fury vs Haye when they were scheduled to fight.

Price, Haye, and the Wlad rematch. Looking ahead, I'd like to see him fight AJ and the Dubois-Joyce winner.

It's easy to laugh at Price now, but timing was everything with that one. Ditto Haye, whose prime ended with the injuries he picked up in training.

Dubois won't be let anywhere near Fury. Fury won't fight him too. So commercially uninviting, he can punch, he's name has zero cred, no one outside his house really knows who he is

[matthewcb]

I think Fury needs to find his own Holyfield - and beat him - before he becomes #1.

But he's not too far behind, the wins against Wlad and Wilder were very, very good.

[stujones]

I think Fury needs to find his own Holyfield - and beat him - before he becomes #1.

But he's not too far behind, the wins against Wlad and Wilder were very, very good.

I still think History is being kind to Fury for the Klitchsko fight.

[banjo]

I think Fury needs to find his own Holyfield - and beat him - before he becomes #1.

But he's not too far behind, the wins against Wlad and Wilder were very, very good.

I still think History is being kind to Fury for the Klitchsko fight.

It was a terrible fight but he was the clear winner.

[polecateddy]

Lewis certainly isn’t given the credit for disposing of underrated live wires like Shannon Briggs. Surely that version of Briggs would have maybe stopped that version of Wilder. For me Joshua still has a better record. The 2nd and 3rd slots are interchangeable with presumably Haye in 4th, and Akinwande, Bruno and Hide filling out the minor places.

[stujones]

Lewis certainly isn’t given the credit for disposing of underrated live wires like Shannon Briggs. Surely that version of Briggs would have maybe stopped that version of Wilder. For me Joshua still has a better record. The 2nd and 3rd slots are interchangeable with presumably Haye in 4th, and Akinwande, Bruno and Hide filling out the minor places.

Not Briggs IMO - Briggs was always pretty poor. The draw with Botha was terrible gift for him, and he lost more rounds vs Foreman than Lou Savarese did (just had another gift).

Golota, Tua, Akinwande and several others yes. But Briggs' only half decent display was vs Lewis.

[cormack]

most annoying gipsy I ever saw on TV

[Grilling Machine]

I still think History is being kind to Fury for the Klitchsko fight.

Had Fury won the rematch I'd have changed my mind, but as it is I agree. Fury was expected to lose and under less pressure, and Wlad was disappointing. We'll never know if the Joshua version of Wlad would've avenged that loss, and maybe not, but without knowing I don't give Fury the benefit of the doubt.

Everyone's on PEDs now so this isn't meant as a dig, but I think it really shows on his shoulders. His pressers for the Haye fight were the first time I noticed, and then again for Wlad and Wilder. Against Wallin he was back to his old size, so he might well fight clean against his overmatched in-betweeners to lessen his risk.

It's totally premature to talk of rating him above Lewis when he hasn't beaten AJ yet, and to suppose it's a done deal is to say that AJ really ain't all that. I won't ever rate him above Lewis because he doesn't have the quality of opposition to prove it, and unless he has another five fights he won't dominate his era. Similar to how Mayweather either avoided his biggest threats or waited until they were older, relying on his top-notch early career to have fans believing those were also done deals.

I think Fury's about as good as Vitali right now.

[TheLeprechaun]

Fury won't ever top Lewis because virtually nobody would pick Fury in a head to head fight between the two

He's proved to be way better than 99% of people thought. In fairness he was uppercutting himself in the ring at one stage of his career and flat out ducked Price at one stage too. We all thought Price would have beaten him but how wrong we were. Fury always had too much heart for Price. He'd get up from any haymaker just like he did vs Wilder.

[polecateddy]

I like Lewis, but you’d have to say Fury would be a handful for him. Granted Vitali was right at the end of the line, but he didn’t exactly look comfortable against a bigger fighter. I think Lewis’ greater firepower would decide it in the end. But Fury is probably more trouble than Vitali and Henry Akinwande. It wouldn’t necessarily be a one sided match up prime for prime.

[morm]

I see Fury after he take another time Wilder and than AJ
he gone be finish , gona do his perpuse ...

[stujones]

I still think History is being kind to Fury for the Klitchsko fight.

Had Fury won the rematch I'd have changed my mind, but as it is I agree. Fury was expected to lose and under less pressure, and Wlad was disappointing. We'll never know if the Joshua version of Wlad would've avenged that loss, and maybe not, but without knowing I don't give Fury the benefit of the doubt.

Everyone's on PEDs now so this isn't meant as a dig, but I think it really shows on his shoulders. His pressers for the Haye fight were the first time I noticed, and then again for Wlad and Wilder. Against Wallin he was back to his old size, so he might well fight clean against his overmatched in-betweeners to lessen his risk.

It's totally premature to talk of rating him above Lewis when he hasn't beaten AJ yet, and to suppose it's a done deal is to say that AJ really ain't all that. I won't ever rate him above Lewis because he doesn't have the quality of opposition to prove it, and unless he has another five fights he won't dominate his era. Similar to how Mayweather either avoided his biggest threats or waited until they were older, relying on his top-notch early career to have fans believing those were also done deals.

I think Fury's about as good as Vitali right now.

I think also it was a razor tight fight in my eyes as it was and in the old saying (and I know its dated etc) of doing enough to win the fight from the champion - I don't know if Fury did. Whilst it seems like the more pundits watch it the wider and wider the performance is - including Warren "he won every round", everytime I view it (which isn't many) it is closer and closer. There have been far worse decisions in Germany than had it been Klitchsko WPTS.

I had it Fury by 1 at the time and I could see the case for a draw. Which is what Glenn McCory's card should have read but he bottled it - by amazingly giving Fury the 12th so he could shout robbery.

[PredatorHayds]

I had Wlad edging it for what it’s worth.
Wlad was odds-on with the exchanges before the decision was made.

[polecateddy]

I remember from the Wlad v Fury fight, that when Wlad started to open up a bit in the final round Fury started to look quite uncomfortable. Perhaps a younger Klitschko would have been able to turn it on more in the middle rounds.

[Autobarn]

Fair comment, those were the first 2 names that came to mind. Nevertheless I still think that Fury won't ever be rated above Lewis because of the level of competition about.

Say for example he beats AJ, Whyte, Usyk, Pulev, Parker and Ruiz, that's about the best resume available that is possible to fight.

For me that doesn't stack up to Holyfield, Tyson, Klit, Morrison, Briggs, Tua, Golota, Bruno, Mercer and McCall.

Do you think Fury will be around for another 6 fights?

Can't see it myself

I think it’ll be a top WBC contender like Whyte or Rivas. Then Joshua. Which could expand into a serious rivalry. I think 3 or 4 fights.

[polecateddy]

Fury’s dad pushing for retirement now. Could be that they won’t bother with Joshua and call it a day?

[margaret thatcher]

Could be that Tys doesn't listen to his dad. He has fights left on his contract I think?

[MasterG]

I think Fury will fight Wilder again and quit. He will know it will piss the public off and I think he would genuinely like the feeling of that. Then everyone in history will be saying 'Who wins, Tyson Fury or AJ?

Fury will move onto WWE once again and do a bit of cage fighting.

[polecateddy]

Remember when Julius Francis tried Cage Rage. Pretty ugly stuff!

[mullenman]

I think fury is the greatest. Imagine what he would do to a 210 lbs man like Ali with his reach, size, reactions, ring iq , weight. We are in the era of a living legend

[polecateddy]

It’s a little bit like when they do the best 100 movies lists and invariably the list ends up spotted with very recent movies and the older classics get forgotten. Fighters such as Lennox Lewis and Riddick Bowe would have coped with Fury’s style better than an older Wlad and certainly this Wilder.

[Grilling Machine]

John's always talked a good game, but I've often wondered if he'd struggle with Tyson losing more than Tyson himself. He's been pretty astute when it comes to Tyson's career, and if he really backed him as an ATG I think he'd support another half-dozen fights to ensure his legacy.

There'll always be someone calling you out and everyone has to retire sometime, but to not fight Joshua would be a huge loss. The thing I hate most about modern boxing is how top names are free to swerve opponents based on their lack of belts. If a young Mike Tyson came onto the scene now none of the top guys'd fight him, because he wouldn't have ‘proven himself’. We all wanted Calzaghe-Froch but Carl didn't have a belt.

In other words, I still think Fury has several viable contenders beyond AJ, including the Dubois-Joyce winner, and I'd like to see him fight a motivated Ruiz and injury-free Usyk.

A lot of writers are now comparing Fury to Ali, and not just shades! Their hyperbole extending to calling him a big puncher. But Ali didn't retire after beating Liston.

[margaret thatcher]

It’s a little bit like when they do the best 100 movies lists and invariably the list ends up spotted with very recent movies and the older classics get forgotten. Fighters such as Lennox Lewis and Riddick Bowe would have coped with Fury’s style better than an older Wlad and certainly this Wilder.

I think it's the opposite just as much --- people jizzing to the oldies

Some of these fighters from past years that get talked up as just awe inducing fighters are laughably basic and undersized when you actually watch them, and a super highly regarded guy like Jack Johnson beat up on guys who would be like junior middleweights. Go watch him btw

There is a healthy segment of fans who rank fighters on a time gradient, with each newer generation being rated lower than the last.

[Grilling Machine]

Middle porridge includes, as Eddy says, the likes of Lewis and Bowe. Even Vitali in his prime.