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Posted: **24 Feb 2020, 16:17**

Ron C wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 16:00 I’d like to see Wilder take a tune up fight next. Let’s see where he’s at. I hope he bounces back. The thing is, if he doesn’t take advantage of the rematch clause in his contract I think Fury never gives him another shot. It’s probably now or never for Wilder

Yeah that's sorta the thing. He has to either fight Fury a 3rd time now, or accept that Fury is just better than him and will always have that win over him, and let it be.

Kinda hard for a guy who saw himself as The Man to just let it be on something like that I'm sure.

Posted: **24 Feb 2020, 16:45**

I'd suggest Wilder have 1 or 2 fights first, before having a rematch with Fury. Deontay needs to work on his defensive skills, and also needs to work on using his jab much more. It would also help if Deontay learned how to use "feints", much like Fury does, to keep his opponents off balance. Feints are one of the top reasons why Fury is so tough to fight.

Also, it wouldn't hurt Deontay to learn how to snap a good solid jab while moving backwards also, and work on some good footwork going forwards and backwards.

Posted: **24 Feb 2020, 16:52**

HeavyHitters wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 16:45 I'd suggest Wilder have 1 or 2 fights first, before having a rematch with Fury. Deontay needs to work on his defensive skills, and also needs to work on using his jab much more. It would also help if Deontay learned how to use "feints", much like Fury does, to keep his opponents off balance. Feints are one of the top reasons why Fury is so tough to fight.

Also, it wouldn't hurt Deontay to learn how to snap a good solid jab while moving backwards also, and work on some good footwork going forwards and backwards.

The things he needs to work he should've worked on by now. I don't see him ever learning the skills he'd need to beat Fury at this point.

If anything Fury beats him easier next time. No matter if it's immediate or 2 or 3 years from now.

Posted: **24 Feb 2020, 16:55**

How about Evgeny Romanov rematch first?

Posted: **24 Feb 2020, 18:54**

Wilder has a problem. If he takes the rematch Fury will likely beat him again.
Wilder isn't the guy to learn new tricks.
However if he doesn't take the rematch he could be stuck in Ortizville for years.
At 35 this could make it his last chance for a big payday.
Fury would rather fight Wilder because he figured him out. Wilder can not fight inside or moving backwards.
So, does Wilder take the rematch and cash out one more time or does he fight PBC
fighters for a while and hope for a title change ?

Posted: **24 Feb 2020, 18:55**

Rumors are he's asking for the rematch.

Posted: **24 Feb 2020, 18:57**

Yea he should, his only hope in a rematch is that Fury parties too hard and gets complacent leading up to it, in a similar fashion to Duran/Leonard.
Albeit I’d fully expect this Fury to continue on the straight and narrow and bust him again.

Posted: **24 Feb 2020, 20:14**

Rumours are someone in Wilders camp might have to go.

If so, then I sincerely hope it's Jay Deas. At the least depromoted to

How he can say that the towel should not have been thrown in when it was is shocking.

Not just dispassionate but bloody cold bastard. That stoppage, late as it was, saved Deontay Wilders future, not to mention all the hangers on.

Sure Deontay won't quit, but just like AJ last year, if the fight hadn't been stopped when it was... well, let's not go there.

Seriously, I think I'm more upset than Deas seemed to be.

This is quite worrying now, reminiscent of what happened to Mike Tyson once the wheels started coming off.

Big rethink needed before being sacrificed by rushing into the next big payout.

Posted: **24 Feb 2020, 20:20**

Yeah I'm hearing that Breland is the sacrificial lamb. To use a favorite phrase of Brits, it's delusional thinking by the Wilder camp. Breland saved DW from God knows what.

Posted: **24 Feb 2020, 21:51**

He will be stupid not to. Once the Brits takeover the belts it will be very hard to get it back from them in the future. History tells us this.

Posted: **24 Feb 2020, 21:54**

I think BT sport reported a couple of hours ago that he is taking the rematch. Apparently he has given an interview to the Atlantic stating that intention

Posted: **24 Feb 2020, 22:03**

Ya, he said he's taking it and he blamed the body suit for the loss

I say poo you Deontay, I want Fury vs AJ instead

Posted: **24 Feb 2020, 22:25**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:49
Hell he should have enough to retire on now I'd think. Hasn't he made 5 Million plus multiple times? How much money do you really think somebody needs?

His decisions shouldn't be based on money anymore if he wants to keep doing this.

He has been spending at an almost Mayweather rate.
Hopefully he does have some financial planning. Problem being his lack of intelligence and wandering penis syndrome.

Posted: **25 Feb 2020, 02:06**

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 20:20 Yeah I'm hearing that Breland is the sacrificial lamb. To use a favorite phrase of Brits, it's delusional thinking by the Wilder camp. Breland saved DW from God knows what.

Dead right.

Wilder should be thankful to Breland.

Wilder could potentially have been seriously hurt had that fight continued; he was struggling well before that towel came in.

Posted: **25 Feb 2020, 03:24**

KiwiRider wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 22:25
gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:49
Hell he should have enough to retire on now I'd think. Hasn't he made 5 Million plus multiple times? How much money do you really think somebody needs?

His decisions shouldn't be based on money anymore if he wants to keep doing this.
He has been spending at an almost Mayweather rate.
Hopefully he does have some financial planning. Problem being his lack of intelligence and wandering penis syndrome.

You hearing reports about Wilder's spending and marital infidelity that the rest of us ain't somehow?

Posted: **25 Feb 2020, 03:25**

Syntax Error wrote: ↑25 Feb 2020, 02:06
oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 20:20 Yeah I'm hearing that Breland is the sacrificial lamb. To use a favorite phrase of Brits, it's delusional thinking by the Wilder camp. Breland saved DW from God knows what.
Dead right.

Wilder should be thankful to Breland.

Wilder could potentially have been seriously hurt had that fight continued; he was struggling well before that towel came in.

He was all but defenseless in the 7th. He threw maybe 1 or 2 right hands the entire 7th round, and they had nothing on 'em. Flailing arm punches.

He was beaten. Even the puncher's chance was gone.

Posted: **25 Feb 2020, 04:07**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:49
candyslim wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 15:42 I think he has to doesn't he? He is 34 years old with a poor injury record. Where is he going to make serious money for his retirement fund if he doesn't exercise his option?

I do believe rightly or wrongly that both Joshua and Whyte would still be interested in fighting Deontay but obviously the intensity of that interest is very much reduced. Joshua especially has other fish to fry. The money he can expect even from the rematch will be much reduced too.

I feel sorry for Deontay. Loyalty is an admirable quality but he really has been stitched up by Haymon and Co. Dibella got fired for arranging a meet with John Skipper of Dzon who is on record as offering Deontay USD 120 million for three fights: 20m for Breazeale and 50m for each of two fights with Joshua.

I would have picked AJ to win but not with any great confidence. It'd be a shootout with Deontay's edge in power, speed, and athleticism versus AJ's technique and comparative versatility. He would have better chances against Joshua than he would have against Fury in a third fight, and even if AJ starched him he would have generational money in the bank by way of compensation.

I wonder how Al plans to reward Deontay for his devotion.
Hell he should have enough to retire on now I'd think. Hasn't he made 5 Million plus multiple times? How much money do you really think somebody needs?

His decisions shouldn't be based on money anymore if he wants to keep doing this.

By our standards Gil the man is phenomenally wealthy, obviously, but you think a man wouldn't prefer to make a hundred million rather than 25 especially when he has a daughter with medical problems?

Don't forget he doesn't get to keep all that. Uncle Sam wants to get paid (bigtime) and Wilder has a hell of a lot of people taking a piece what he grosses. Haymon, Finkel, previously Dibella, Deas, Breland, and so on. How many are on a percentage?

Posted: **25 Feb 2020, 04:09**

No chance Wilder get's a rematch until a later date.

Posted: **25 Feb 2020, 04:10**

I don't know, but if you make 20 Million dollars, and can't live comfortably the rest of your life. You ain't too bright.

Posted: **25 Feb 2020, 04:11**

Evander wrote: ↑25 Feb 2020, 04:09 No chance Wilder get's a rematch until a later date.

Apparently he's already confirming he wants it.

Posted: **25 Feb 2020, 04:14**

To be fair he ain't too bright. He's got some fine qualities but intelligence is not one of them.

Posted: **25 Feb 2020, 05:41**

HeavyHitters wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 16:45 I'd suggest Wilder have 1 or 2 fights first, before having a rematch with Fury. Deontay needs to work on his defensive skills, and also needs to work on using his jab much more. It would also help if Deontay learned how to use "feints", much like Fury does, to keep his opponents off balance. Feints are one of the top reasons why Fury is so tough to fight.

Also, it wouldn't hurt Deontay to learn how to snap a good solid jab while moving backwards also, and work on some good footwork going forwards and backwards.

I think that ship has sailed.

Wilder is in the Autumn of his career and it's going to be difficult for him to learn new tricks.

Even if he does, Fury is a master at what he does, so Wilder would still likely struggle regardless.

Posted: **25 Feb 2020, 08:15**

Syntax Error wrote: ↑25 Feb 2020, 02:06
oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 20:20 Yeah I'm hearing that Breland is the sacrificial lamb. To use a favorite phrase of Brits, it's delusional thinking by the Wilder camp. Breland saved DW from God knows what.
Dead right.

Wilder should be thankful to Breland.

Wilder could potentially have been seriously hurt had that fight continued; he was struggling well before that towel came in.

If he does by some miracle win the rematch then he should thank Breland but he wont do that.

Posted: **25 Feb 2020, 13:18**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Feb 2020, 04:10 I don't know, but if you make 20 Million dollars, and can't live comfortably the rest of your life. You ain't too bright.

Posted: **25 Feb 2020, 17:03**

Fwank says they want AJ right away and are willing to offer Wilder step aside money if he pushes an immediate rematch

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