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Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 10:28
by Woldemar
Lennox Lewis vs Henry Akinwande.
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 10:35
by Tony1244
Woldemar wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 10:28
Lennox Lewis vs Henry Akinwande.
There was a debate here (everyone against me) where I thought a fight like that should be ruled a TKO. It's every bit as much of a stoppage IMO as say Liston sitting on his stool, which was scored a TKO.
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 14:38
by Syntax Error
ct1976 wrote: ↑10 Apr 2020, 14:34
Haye Vs Harrison was dreadful
It's amazing that Harrison got paid.
If that had been horse racing, there'd have been a steward's enquiry.
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 19:07
by lazboy
candyslim wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 10:23
lazboy wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 04:43
Tyson Fury never fought anyone with the last name Spinks.
If that was an attempt at humour I'm sure you can do a helluva lot better. Sweet Jesus I hope so.
It’s uncertain.
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 19:12
by Enlightened-One
Floyd Patterson vs. Pete Rademacher
Joe Louis vs. Johnny Davis
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 19:28
by oogiebe
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 19:12
Floyd Patterson vs. Pete Rademacher
Joe Louis vs. Johnny Davis
I think Rademacher was just "gimicky."
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 19:30
by margaret thatcher
Man Raz Cojanu is just so f@cking shit and yet he fought for a title. I'll spare it most shameful since it was a really late notice replacment
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 19:31
by Tony1244
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 19:12
Floyd Patterson vs. Pete Rademacher
Joe Louis vs. Johnny Davis
The later wasn't supposed to be a title fight.
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 19:41
by oogiebe
Tony1244 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 19:31
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 19:12
Floyd Patterson vs. Pete Rademacher
Joe Louis vs. Johnny Davis
The later wasn't supposed to be a title fight.
And didn't Pete deck Floyd?
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 19:46
by Enlightened-One
Tony1244 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 19:31
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 19:12
Floyd Patterson vs. Pete Rademacher
Joe Louis vs. Johnny Davis
The later wasn't supposed to be a title fight.
They were both title fights. And utterly disgraceful mismatches.
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 19:48
by Tony1244
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 19:46
Tony1244 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 19:31
The later wasn't supposed to be a title fight.
They were both title fights.
Scroll down.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/9027
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 19:48
by Tony1244
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 19:41
Tony1244 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 19:31
The later wasn't supposed to be a title fight.
And didn't Pete deck Floyd?
Yup.
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 19:52
by Enlightened-One
And it was a mismatch.
Do me a favour, instead of reading about certain events, why don’t you instead actually watch the fight?
Seriously dudes, do fûckïng better! Be honest for once and express an opinion based on what you actually see!
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 20:19
by lazboy
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 19:52
And it was a mismatch.
Do me a favour, instead of reading about certain events, why don’t you instead actually watch the fight?
Seriously dudes, do fûckïng better! Be honest for once and express an opinion based on what you actually see!
Lol!
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 20:21
by margaret thatcher
Ya, I mean, who wouldn't want the full story rather than just a cherrypicked part of it right
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 20:23
by Enlightened-One
lazboy wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 20:19
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 19:52
And it was a mismatch.
Do me a favour, instead of reading about certain events, why don’t you instead actually watch the fight?
Seriously dudes, do fûckïng better! Be honest for once and express an opinion based on what you actually see!
Lol!
There’s a lot of pretentious historians boasting about possessing expert knowledge, but when you challenge them, they quote what they read and not what they see.
My rant might have been “funny”, but if you possessed real-world knowledge of the subject matter being discussed, then you’d probably agree with me (even if you wouldn’t publicly admit to it).
We don’t like each other, and that’s fine by me, but if you possessed knowledge and integrity, you’d surely realise that for this particular point, I’m absolutely 100% correct.
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 20:36
by lazboy
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 20:21
Ya, I mean, who wouldn't want the full story rather than just a cherrypicked part of it right
Drum-kit and cymbal noise.
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 20:41
by oogiebe
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 19:52
And it was a mismatch.
Do me a favour, instead of reading about certain events, why don’t you instead actually watch the fight?
Seriously dudes, do fûckïng better! Be honest for once and express an opinion based on what you actually see!
I'm sorry. Did Pete knock Floyd down, or did I 'read' that wrong? LMFAO! No one said the fight wasn't a sham. Relax boyo. You go off the rails too easily.
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 11 Apr 2020, 20:42
by oogiebe
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 20:23
lazboy wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 20:19
Lol!
There’s a lot of pretentious historians boasting about possessing expert knowledge, but when you challenge them, they quote what they read and not what they see.
My rant might have been “funny”, but if you possessed real-world knowledge of the subject matter being discussed, then you’d probably agree with me (even if you wouldn’t publicly admit to it).
We don’t like each other, and that’s fine by me, but if you possessed knowledge and integrity, you’d surely realise that for this particular point, I’m absolutely 100% correct.
Off D Rails.
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 04:31
by Verdi
Frans Botha Vs Axel Schulz
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 04:40
by candyslim
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 19:30
Man Raz Cojanu is just so f@cking poo and yet he fought for a title. I'll spare it most shameful since it was a really late notice replacment
He's a strange one isn't he? I mean gets himself blasted out by Don Dennis, Luis Ortiz and Daniel Dubois suggesting he's a two round job for the better fighters (I don't include Dennis in that) yet he takes Ajagba into round 9 and goes the full distance with Nathan Gorman and a full 12 against no less a fighter than Joe Parker.
As I've said before - 'Will the real Razman Cojanu please stand up' ... or lie down, just make your bloody mind up
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 09:12
by Lenny Cravats
Tony1244 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 10:35
Woldemar wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 10:28
Lennox Lewis vs Henry Akinwande.
There was a debate here (everyone against me) where I thought a fight like that should be ruled a TKO. It's every bit as much of a stoppage IMO as say Liston sitting on his stool, which was scored a TKO.
I agree with you.
I don't think crying and walking about between rounds is actually against the rules, is it?
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 09:17
by Tony1244
Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑12 Apr 2020, 09:12
Tony1244 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2020, 10:35
There was a debate here (everyone against me) where I thought a fight like that should be ruled a TKO. It's every bit as much of a stoppage IMO as say Liston sitting on his stool, which was scored a TKO.
I agree with you.
I don't think crying and walking about between rounds is actually against the rules, is it?
LL got credit for a TKO against McCall, while he did not against Akinwande. One was crying and one was hugging, pretty arbitrary way of deciding.
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 10:07
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Oliver did one of those "best ive fought" at ring mag recently.
He said lennox hit him with the best shot hes ever been hit with and them he saw Lennox mother cheering which made him realize his mom never cared and he broke down. Like that shot from Lennox scrambled him and brought up childhood trauma...
Just thought it was interesting
Re: Most shameful world HW title fights.
Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 11:39
by Onetimeonly
Tony1244 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2020, 09:17
Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑12 Apr 2020, 09:12
I agree with you.
I don't think crying and walking about between rounds is actually against the rules, is it?
LL got credit for a TKO against McCall, while he did not against Akinwande. One was crying and one was hugging, pretty arbitrary way of deciding.
Holding is a foul, crying isn't.